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Take a Stand Against Sexual Assault: Resist the TSA

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alfablue said:
Just want to let you all know- we traveled twice by plane this past weekend. Neither time were we forced to be scanned or be patted down.

Even saw the scanner in Fort Lauderdale- nobody was going in it.

Seems like a lot of huballo about nothing.
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So what's the point of the scanners then if they aren't being used? I thought they made us safer.
 
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I think they thought it would speed up the process for those who get picked for extra screening. Not everyone gets the extra screening nor have they since TSA has started
 
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"I'm p!$$ed off that they're using the scanners and patting down travelers!!!"
'They're not using the scanners or patting down travelers.'
"I'm p!$$ed off that they're not using the scanners and patting down travelers!!!"
 
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I believe enhanced screening is done to <1% of passengers per TSA spokesperson. I would imagine it'll be more in the future.

In one hand I can see why they didn't do an enhanced screening on a bikini wearing traveler, on the other hand the underwear bomber suggest only totally nude passenger should be exempt from pat downs.

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And maybe we need TSA enhanced screening in schools. since the current police/metal scans failed miserably. think of the kids.

Although in this case he circumvented the school security procedure :eek:...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101130/ap_on_re_us/us_wisconsin_classroom_hostages
A bomb-sniffing dog was brought in to check the building for explosives and none were found, the chief said. He said it was not clear where the boy got the weapons or how he sneaked them into school.

The shooter entered the classroom, where he was a student, at around 1:30 p.m., Skorik said.

Marinette Schools Superintendent Tim Baneck said the student started class without any weapons. He then asked to use the restroom, and when he returned he was carrying the duffel bag containing the two guns and ammunition, Baneck said.
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Priceless said:
"I'm p!$$ed off that they're using the scanners and patting down travelers!!!"
'They're not using the scanners or patting down travelers.'
"I'm p!$$ed off that they're not using the scanners and patting down travelers!!!"
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Do you believe the scanners make us safer?
 
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WeWantMore said:
Do you believe the scanners make us safer?
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That's a relative term. I don't think we're unsafe now. Americans need to stop being afraid of their own shadow. Planes were hijacked before and they will be again - no system is 100% foolproof. Besides, AQ may decide to do something else next time (electricity or water supply is a good bet) so spending oodles of money on screening is a misuse of resources IMO. But people asked (demanded) to be "protected" and the government obliged.
 
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walrus said:
Does TSA make us safer?
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Having an entire new bureaucracy under DHS and TSA makes us less safe through duplication / waste / turf and rice bowl wars. Same goes for the DNI (a laughable hood ornament). The DIA (the DOD running their own parallel shop). And the NSA (formerly off-the-books crypto skullduggery that should now be done inside the Company).

The entire national intel and security structure is a disaster and it's amazing the people doing the work can function at all. Roll everybody under either the FBI or CIA depending on charter and close every other security agency. It's all just rivalry and b.s. that helps nobody.

Back in the day, chaos and inefficiency were our friends because they were the best protection for our civil liberties, but we can't afford that kind of stupid structure anymore. The protection of our civil liberties needs to come from the courts and relentless public pressure, not by built-in self-destructive tendencies within the intel community itself.

We have the equivalent of a fleet of gold-plated bumper cars where for "brakes" we just designed them with terrible fuel efficiency. I'd much rather have two fast, highly maneuverable cars with very good brakes -- one for highway (the CIA) and one for city (the FBI).
 
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I didn't give a rat's about this issue until I saw the videos of the woman being forced to miss her flight home over travelling with breast milk. Read the story, or if you have the time watch the vids and then tell me the TSA doesn't need to be slapped down hard. I was extremely irritated by this whole story. It's a big power trip fest down in Phoenix.
(sorry if this has already been talked about)
 
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geezer said:
I didn't give a rat's about this issue until I saw the videos of the woman being forced to miss her flight home over travelling with breast milk. Read the story, or if you have the time watch the vids and then tell me the TSA doesn't need to be slapped down hard. I was extremely irritated by this whole story. It's a big power trip fest down in Phoenix.
(sorry if this has already been talked about)
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Blaming the TSA for this is like blaming a beat cop for a stupid law. It isn't their fault -- they're just carrying out stupid policies brought to you by stupid politicians elected by stupid voters. Blame your neighbor who thinks Jose Reyes is an Arab.
 
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Kepler said:
Blaming the TSA for this is like blaming a beat cop for a stupid law. It isn't their fault -- they're just carrying out stupid policies brought to you by stupid politicians elected by stupid voters. Blame your neighbor who thinks Jose Reyes is an Arab.
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"Just following orders?" What is it the Barney Fifes tell passengers? "You don't have to fly." Well, these buck a dozen drones don't have to work for TSA, do they? This was retaliation, pure and simple. Bureaucratic bullies determined to show her who's boss. Here's a suggeston, if TSA claims a "mistake" was made and that their rules clearly allow for alternative screening for breast milk, then every one of the Gestapo trainees involved in this deliberate mistreatment should be fired, immediately. I say immediately because once these slobs get unionized, it'll darn near impossible to get rid of any of 'em. And the one who should go first is that 300 pound cow standing around, acting important, throughout the young lady's ordeal.

While they were hassling this lady for no good reason, the Ohio State Marching band, complete with Sousaphones, could have boarded an airplane and these toolboxes wouldn't be any the wiser. We're spending hundreds of millions of dollars for this? So some sub-literate unemployables can torture a young lady because "they don't like her attitude?" It is these people who are protecting us from Islamist terrorists? I'd rather just hire some old ladies from Kelly Girl.
 
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Old Pio said:
"Just following orders?" What is it the Barney Fifes tell passengers? "You don't have to fly." Well, these buck a dozen drones don't have to work for TSA, do they?
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I have faith in you and I'm almost 100% sure you wrote that knowing that's not at all what I said. The TSA drone is just that, a drone. Blame him all you like if it makes you feel better, but it's the equivalent of blaming Abu Ghraib on that poor Appalachian rube. This is policy so nail the policymakers, or better still nail the coward "patriots" who folded at the first pressure and gave up everything from privacy rights to habeas corpus to hide under the skirts of the Security State.
 
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Kepler said:
I have faith in you and I'm almost 100% sure you wrote that knowing that's not at all what I said. The TSA drone is just that, a drone. Blame him all you like if it makes you feel better, but it's the equivalent of blaming Abu Ghraib on that poor Appalachian rube. This is policy so nail the policymakers, or better still nail the coward "patriots" who folded at the first pressure and gave up everything from privacy rights to habeas corpus to hide under the skirts of the Security State.
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It IS what you said! You said blame the law, blame the politicians, blame Bush. Since these Nazis weren't mentioned, one assumes you didn't blame them. You're just wong here. And anyone who watches the video of those a*sholes hasseling the lady will agree. If you're so hot to trot to argue the "larger issues" involved, fine. But don't give these pr*cks the benefit of the doubt, they don't deserve it. And the rubes at Abu Ghraib WERE responsible for their actions. "All I did was drop the Zyclon b through the hole in the roof, it's not like I did anything wrong."

So the only basis for disagreeing with you is deliberate misrepresentation of your post? Not too arrogant.
 
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