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Sweet Release: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread Part I

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geezer said:
explain.
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Well, perhaps 'failed' is the wrong word. Nevertheless, it seems that since the "big falling out" that the community and the hockey program supposedly had when Bob Mancini was head coach, the Institution (:D) has been trying to find ways to patch things up, to varying degrees of success; particularly since Russell has been around. For instance:

1. Mikesch has long been seen as "the local" on the coaching staff.

2. They built the suites to bring in steadier revenue and cement some ties to local commerce.

3. Whether you agree with it or not, they've tried to tone down the band/Misfits and make the arena more "family friendly".

etc.
 
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Dear Wisconsin,

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I borrowed this from a friend that is teaching in Korea right now and goes to a lot of soccer games there, hence the picture.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Well, perhaps 'failed' is the wrong word. Nevertheless, it seems that since the "big falling out" that the community and the hockey program supposedly had when Bob Mancini was head coach, the Institution (:D) has been trying to find ways to patch things up, to varying degrees of success; particularly since Russell has been around. For instance:

1. Mikesch has long been seen as "the local" on the coaching staff.

2. They built the suites to bring in steadier revenue and cement some ties to local commerce.

3. Whether you agree with it or not, they've tried to tone down the band/Misfits and make the arena more "family friendly".

etc.
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Yeah, some of those things might be perceived negatively to varying degrees, I suppose. I wondered if you were only talking about the local players they've recruited (and not) to play. Local recruiting over the last 50 years has been somewhere between lazy and criminally negligent. It's a shame that in the fairly recent past, many of Calumet's best players (including at least one NHL draftee) have gone elsewhere. I'm hoping Johnson signs up.
 
Re: Sweet Release: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread Part I

IMHO

Randy McKay will not be the new assistant coach

Jamie will choose his own assistant - no one will be forced on him

the Mancini thing is ancient history
 
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huskyfan said:
IMHO

Randy McKay will not be the new assistant coach

Jamie will choose his own assistant - no one will be forced on him

the Mancini thing is ancient history
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Like Komquat said, Randy doesn't want to be a full-time paid assistant coach. He likes volunteering his time and spending the rest with his family. Recruiting trips and all the additional travel needs to be put on the shoulders of some young sparkplug of an assistant coach.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
Like Komquat said, Randy doesn't want to be a full-time paid assistant coach. He likes volunteering his time and spending the rest with his family. Recruiting trips and all the additional travel needs to be put on the shoulders of some young sparkplug of an assistant coach.
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I'm young, and I have the attention span of a two year old, so I think I can be a sparkplug.

I'm feeling more and more like I would be a perfect option for an assistant job.
 
Re: Sweet Release: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread Part I

once again IMHO

a likely split in the Tech program. it doesn't fall into a local / non local thing. its more an alignment of pro Russell / anti Russell groups. although that isn't the only issue. I guess we all know what side I fall on (I sit under a "russell's terriers banner). so take what I say with a shaker of salt. Chris Tok is a very nice guy and I wish him all the best. perhaps, he, was, uh, not entirely onboard with the program. perhaps, Randy McKay, also a great guy and a wonderful asset for our community, also is not? Pat Mikesch not being onboard I can't imagine.

ah well. the ramblings of an old woman. back to housecleaning. (if you get my drift)
 
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I long for the days of the Mancini era. A .500 or better record 2 out of 4 years and 3 trips to the final five during that time look pretty good right about now. Those were good times.
 
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huskyfan said:
once again IMHO

a likely split in the Tech program. it doesn't fall into a local / non local thing. its more an alignment of pro Russell / anti Russell groups. although that isn't the only issue. I guess we all know what side I fall on (I sit under a "russell's terriers banner). so take what I say with a shaker of salt. Chris Tok is a very nice guy and I wish him all the best. perhaps, he, was, uh, not entirely onboard with the program. perhaps, Randy McKay, also a great guy and a wonderful asset for our community, also is not? Pat Mikesch not being onboard I can't imagine.

ah well. the ramblings of an old woman. back to housecleaning. (if you get my drift)
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Well I've said it before, it is not that we need to replace Tok, it's that we need to replace and add to his duties. I am wholeheartedly in favor of everyone being on the same sheet of paper. There cannot be two bosses. However, the boss must be big enough to take the best from wherever he finds it and use that to further the program. Our recruiting needs to get better, that's for sure, and the only way we are going to improve it is to outwork the other teams at finding guys and selling the program.
I would also add we need someone who can recruit in Nationally, not someone who is tied to the local community, there is a lot of good hockey out in the world, better than the CC for the most part.I say you find someone from outside.
 
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manurespreader said:
Well I've said it before, it is not that we need to replace Tok, it's that we need to replace and add to his duties. I am wholeheartedly in favor of everyone being on the same sheet of paper. There cannot be two bosses. However, the boss must be big enough to take the best from wherever he finds it and use that to further the program. Our recruiting needs to get better, that's for sure, and the only way we are going to improve it is to outwork the other teams at finding guys and selling the program.
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Regarding selling the program. I've wondered how well can a coach, who is an alumni of a rival school, who is possibly recruiting the same player, really sell the program? I'm sure there are some that can, but it just seems like an alum is going to be able to be much more passionate about selling the program.
 
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geezer said:
Yeah, some of those things might be perceived negatively to varying degrees, I suppose. I wondered if you were only talking about the local players they've recruited (and not) to play. Local recruiting over the last 50 years has been somewhere between lazy and criminally negligent. It's a shame that in the fairly recent past, many of Calumet's best players (including at least one NHL draftee) have gone elsewhere. I'm hoping Johnson signs up.
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I suppose I should clarify. I think it's nice to have local players, and I know there is certainly a proud hockey history at all levels in the Keweenaw (more-so than any other part of Michigan, in my estimation). There are definitely some talented guys that Tech probably allowed to slip out of town, and some that they did land one way or another. Peter Rouleau was one of the reasons I started to seriously follow Tech hockey (his hatty in that 9-0 shellacking of UAA a few years ago was my first game with the pep band ;)).

So I'm not pooh-poohing local players or discouraging our coaches from recruiting them. If they show talent and have a legit shot at being good college players, then by all means they should be targeted, signed, and properly seasoned with some time in a serious junior league. Tech should have the inside track on those guys and should be getting them. At the same time though, the Keweenaw is not Minnesota and does not have a seemingly endless supply of kids who are good enough to play D1 college hockey. Unless you're the pre-2000 Gophers, success is built on players from around the map.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I suppose I should clarify. I think it's nice to have local players, and I know there is certainly a proud hockey history at all levels in the Keweenaw (more-so than any other part of Michigan, in my estimation). There are definitely some talented guys that Tech probably allowed to slip out of town, and some that they did land one way or another. Peter Rouleau was one of the reasons I started to seriously follow Tech hockey (his hatty in that 9-0 shellacking of UAA a few years ago was my first game with the pep band ;)).

So I'm not pooh-poohing local players or discouraging our coaches from recruiting them. If they show talent and have a legit shot at being good college players, then by all means they should be targeted, signed, and properly seasoned with some time in a serious junior league. Tech should have the inside track on those guys and should be getting them. At the same time though, the Keweenaw is not Minnesota and does not have a seemingly endless supply of kids who are good enough to play D1 college hockey. Unless you're the pre-2000 Gophers, success is built on players from around the map.
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Or we could just be the pre-2000 Gophers...Woog is probably looking for a job.
 
Re: Sweet Release: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread Part I

some of the local guys (I know its hard to believe) have trouble getting into Tech.
 
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