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St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
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pete99race
Rocking 'The Stone'
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Got a feeling that we will see Jake the rest of the way, after that 3rd period collapse..
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Jinx....
Jinx....
GB Puck Fan
It's A Great Day For Hockey
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Not really... I posted it before last night and SNC won... maybe I should have done it today!
Not really... I posted it before last night and SNC won... maybe I should have done it today!
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
I think we all would like to know that! I think the 2 losses have shown who needs to be in goal and probably should have been in goal more then he has been so far.
I would have thought Jake being the top ranked goalie each of the last 2 seasons would be enough to show who has earned the job. I don't understand why Kujava has earned as much time as he was given...
I think we all would like to know that! I think the 2 losses have shown who needs to be in goal and probably should have been in goal more then he has been so far.
I would have thought Jake being the top ranked goalie each of the last 2 seasons would be enough to show who has earned the job. I don't understand why Kujava has earned as much time as he was given...
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
It's not unusual for Cogs to use a goaltender rotation in the first half of the season before settling on one guy to go with for the second half. You have to see what you've got with freshman goaltenders, especially ones who had success in the USHL. Look at SNC's #3 goaltender, senior Mike Martin. I think he saw the bulk of his total career playing time during his freshman season.
Also, I can only speculate that the relationship between Jake and Kujava is a good one. Kujava was Jake's backup for his final year of Junior hockey in the NAHL. If the two weren't friends, I think Kujava would've ended up elsewhere for his NCAA hockey.
But yeah, personally I thought we were going to see Jake both games this weekend.
Not the best way to end the first half of the season for SNC. But who knows, maybe this will light a fire under them that will be essential for the tough second half to follow. Their first three NC games of the second half will tell us a lot...
It's not unusual for Cogs to use a goaltender rotation in the first half of the season before settling on one guy to go with for the second half. You have to see what you've got with freshman goaltenders, especially ones who had success in the USHL. Look at SNC's #3 goaltender, senior Mike Martin. I think he saw the bulk of his total career playing time during his freshman season.
Also, I can only speculate that the relationship between Jake and Kujava is a good one. Kujava was Jake's backup for his final year of Junior hockey in the NAHL. If the two weren't friends, I think Kujava would've ended up elsewhere for his NCAA hockey.
But yeah, personally I thought we were going to see Jake both games this weekend.
Not the best way to end the first half of the season for SNC. But who knows, maybe this will light a fire under them that will be essential for the tough second half to follow. Their first three NC games of the second half will tell us a lot...
Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
There's all of that, and then unless you're at practice, you really don't get a good feel of what goes on there, for the most part. Is the guy doing really well in practice, but not showing it on the ice on game night? Is he improving? Is the starter nicked up a little bit?
There can be a lot of little things that people don't know about.
There's all of that, and then unless you're at practice, you really don't get a good feel of what goes on there, for the most part. Is the guy doing really well in practice, but not showing it on the ice on game night? Is he improving? Is the starter nicked up a little bit?
There can be a lot of little things that people don't know about.
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Good point.
What's your take on seeing so little of Scott Shackell this season for Adrian? He and Hamby seemed to be in a pretty steady rotation last season, and I thought Shackell played really well in the NCAA tourney game vs Oswego last March.
edit: just looked, Shackell has seen a little more playing time this season than I originally thought...
Good point.
What's your take on seeing so little of Scott Shackell this season for Adrian? He and Hamby seemed to be in a pretty steady rotation last season, and I thought Shackell played really well in the NCAA tourney game vs Oswego last March.
edit: just looked, Shackell has seen a little more playing time this season than I originally thought...
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Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
I agree that if he does go with a rotation that it's in the first half and the second half Jake gets the starts. Jake's freshman year had quite a bit of rotation until he proved himself to be the #1 and we all know how that year ended! Last year was different in the first half Jake was in net for 11starts and Bosch had 2 starts. So doesn't make sense to me that you would have almost a 50/50 split this season. I know you need to see what you have in Kujava but I have a hard time believing that he's earned that much PT.
They were on good terms back in the NAHL days and that's still the case. Jakes a team player but if it was me it would make me wonder what's going on...
I agree that if he does go with a rotation that it's in the first half and the second half Jake gets the starts. Jake's freshman year had quite a bit of rotation until he proved himself to be the #1 and we all know how that year ended! Last year was different in the first half Jake was in net for 11starts and Bosch had 2 starts. So doesn't make sense to me that you would have almost a 50/50 split this season. I know you need to see what you have in Kujava but I have a hard time believing that he's earned that much PT.
They were on good terms back in the NAHL days and that's still the case. Jakes a team player but if it was me it would make me wonder what's going on...
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Outsiders take…the goaltending last night was certainly an issue (4 goals on 8 shots in the 3rd), but I think SNC had more balanced scoring at the start of the season. It seems like most of it is coming from one line lately. It seems the other 3 lines need to step it up and play like they did at the start.
In football, if a guy fumbles 4 times, he's probably not the one to give the pep talk. I can imagine Kujava was pretty quiet afterward. He will learn from that. We grow the most when things don't go our way. There are other guys (seniors) that may be vocal in the locker room that didn't lead on the ice. Those guys have to be the hardest working, most accountable of the bunch. I didn't see that last night.
Outsiders take…the goaltending last night was certainly an issue (4 goals on 8 shots in the 3rd), but I think SNC had more balanced scoring at the start of the season. It seems like most of it is coming from one line lately. It seems the other 3 lines need to step it up and play like they did at the start.
In football, if a guy fumbles 4 times, he's probably not the one to give the pep talk. I can imagine Kujava was pretty quiet afterward. He will learn from that. We grow the most when things don't go our way. There are other guys (seniors) that may be vocal in the locker room that didn't lead on the ice. Those guys have to be the hardest working, most accountable of the bunch. I didn't see that last night.
Toe Blake's Brother
I never scored a goal backchecking!
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
I am not going to defend the play of Kujava last night as I thought it was certainly sub par. However I am going to add that last nights debacle was the responsibilty of the entire team. SNC would not have been put into the position that they were in if they had any fire after the first period. Missed opportunities via poor PP and missed shots at the net combined with a defense that backed right into Kujava most of the second and certainly the last 5 minutes of the game were the reasons for the loss. Additionally, some very stupid behind the play penalties by some veteran players who seem to be frustrated also contributed. Finally and most importantly, Lawrence deserves kudos for not giving up and playing harder than SNC did last night. All in all a very bad night but hopefully a learning experience. SNC will hopefully understand that the NCHA is up for grabs by a number of very capable teams and that just showing up will not be good enough if they want to play long into 2014.
I am not going to defend the play of Kujava last night as I thought it was certainly sub par. However I am going to add that last nights debacle was the responsibilty of the entire team. SNC would not have been put into the position that they were in if they had any fire after the first period. Missed opportunities via poor PP and missed shots at the net combined with a defense that backed right into Kujava most of the second and certainly the last 5 minutes of the game were the reasons for the loss. Additionally, some very stupid behind the play penalties by some veteran players who seem to be frustrated also contributed. Finally and most importantly, Lawrence deserves kudos for not giving up and playing harder than SNC did last night. All in all a very bad night but hopefully a learning experience. SNC will hopefully understand that the NCHA is up for grabs by a number of very capable teams and that just showing up will not be good enough if they want to play long into 2014.
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
I agree it was a lack of effort after the first by all. I think the boys will have a good month to think about it and refocus for the long 2nd half run. I think those stupid penalties were a result of the chippy efforts of the LU players. But I do agree kudos for them for continuing to dig and not giving up!
Lincol07, I think early in the year scoring came from a handful of players and as the year has gone on that has opened up to more players scoring BUT there are 2 or 3 that have recently cooled off that need to heat back up for the stretch run.
I agree, I am sure Kujava was quiet last night but this group will come together and hopefully make a long run into March!
I agree it was a lack of effort after the first by all. I think the boys will have a good month to think about it and refocus for the long 2nd half run. I think those stupid penalties were a result of the chippy efforts of the LU players. But I do agree kudos for them for continuing to dig and not giving up!
Lincol07, I think early in the year scoring came from a handful of players and as the year has gone on that has opened up to more players scoring BUT there are 2 or 3 that have recently cooled off that need to heat back up for the stretch run.
I agree, I am sure Kujava was quiet last night but this group will come together and hopefully make a long run into March!
pete99race
Rocking 'The Stone'
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Preview of this weekend's action vs River Falls and Stevens Pt.
http://www.snc.edu/athletics/teamfiles/hockey/2013-14/hockey14-8.pdf
Final non conf games, before 10 straight conf games to end the reg season....
Preview of this weekend's action vs River Falls and Stevens Pt.
http://www.snc.edu/athletics/teamfiles/hockey/2013-14/hockey14-8.pdf
Final non conf games, before 10 straight conf games to end the reg season....
hockeyfan189
New member
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
I was just wondering if any of the graduates from SNC last year are still playing?
I was just wondering if any of the graduates from SNC last year are still playing?
pete99race
Rocking 'The Stone'
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Stroh is playing with Rapid City of CHL...
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Cody Keefer after being waived by the Rapid City Crush was with the Mississippi RiverKings through November 2013.
Cody Keefer after being waived by the Rapid City Crush was with the Mississippi RiverKings through November 2013.
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
Cody Keefer is listed as inactive by the Hockey Data Base website since November.
Kyle Stroh is still playing for the Rapid City RUSH of the CHL. His stat line is 32games- 7 goals- 6 assists- 13 points- 10 pims- (+7).
Cody Keefer is listed as inactive by the Hockey Data Base website since November.
Kyle Stroh is still playing for the Rapid City RUSH of the CHL. His stat line is 32games- 7 goals- 6 assists- 13 points- 10 pims- (+7).
hockeyfan189
New member
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
I see that now… I checked out the box scores from this last weekend to see how Kyle Stroh was doing and surprisingly I stumbled upon this…http://chl.stats.pointstreak.com/boxscore.html?gameid=2239306 …it appears Travis Bosch is currently with the Denver Cutthroats… Is that the same Travis Bosch that barely played at SNC?
Cody Keefer is listed as inactive by the Hockey Data Base website since November.
Kyle Stroh is still playing for the Rapid City RUSH of the CHL. His stat line is 32games- 7 goals- 6 assists- 13 points- 10 pims- (+7).
I see that now… I checked out the box scores from this last weekend to see how Kyle Stroh was doing and surprisingly I stumbled upon this…http://chl.stats.pointstreak.com/boxscore.html?gameid=2239306 …it appears Travis Bosch is currently with the Denver Cutthroats… Is that the same Travis Bosch that barely played at SNC?
pete99race
Rocking 'The Stone'
Re: St. Norbert 2013-14 - a new mountain to climb on the way back to the top
http://www.pointstreak.com/stats/pro/transactions.html?leagueid=215&seasonid=11461
Yes, it is...he was recently loaned to Denver from Columbus of the SPHL..
http://www.pointstreak.com/stats/pro/transactions.html?leagueid=215&seasonid=11461