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SCSU vs. Bye Jan. 11 & 12

LOL, So just admit you don't know anything about my squad. Can you name five players without looking at a roster? Have you even watched them play? My guess is no. You said basically I am a fool for saying my team has as much talent as anybody in NCAA hockey. If that is such a crazy statement explain why. Break down my team and explain where they lack talent is and how that statement is so far off.

Have YOU been to a Gopher, Notre Dame or BC game this year? I would guess not. And before you ask if I've been to a Husky game, yes...I have. About 6 or 7 this year. I can say, biased though you may say I am, that the Gophers seem much more skilled against their opponents. Could SCSU beat BC or Notre Dame right now? I really don't think so.

I admire your passion for your team, but it's very common for fans to overvalue their hometown players. I wouldn't trade Dowd or Hanowski for Bjugstad or Haula. I wouldn't trade Rau for Kossila ever. Schmidt for Jensen? Heck no. And how about Wilcox for Faragher? Not in a million years. And while we may disagree, I think outside opinions such as NHL scouts, hockeysfuture.com and many analysts would agree. Would I trade Haula for an Anders Lee or a Johnny Gaudreau? Probably.
 
Re: SCSU vs. Bye Jan. 11 & 12

LOL, So just admit you don't know anything about my squad. Can you name five players without looking at a roster? Have you even watched them play? My guess is no. You said basically I am a fool for saying my team has as much talent as anybody in NCAA hockey. If that is such a crazy statement explain why. Break down my team and explain where they lack talent is and how that statement is so far off.

Hanowski, Benik, LeBlanc, Faragher (sp?), Dowd, Rehkamp (sp?). Now you tell me about the BC players that these guys are equal to, or better than. Again, you made the original statement and I want YOU to back it up. Much easier to prove a positive than a negative.
 
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Ha, this is entertaining. I'm not a Gopher fan, but it sure is fun watching them make the SCSU people look idiotic. :D
 
LOL, I figured you couldn't back-up your outrageous claim and you've proven it for me. At least hockeykrazy made a stab at it, even if he just named the players and claimed they're as good as anyone (with no evidence to back up that claim). :D

Shouldn't you run along to the thread with the team the Gophers will stumble against this weekend?
 
Re: SCSU vs. Bye Jan. 11 & 12

Have YOU been to a Gopher, Notre Dame or BC game this year? I would guess not. And before you ask if I've been to a Husky game, yes...I have. About 6 or 7 this year. I can say, biased though you may say I am, that the Gophers seem much more skilled against their opponents. Could SCSU beat BC or Notre Dame right now? I really don't think so.

I admire your passion for your team, but it's very common for fans to overvalue their hometown players. I wouldn't trade Dowd or Hanowski for Bjugstad or Haula. I wouldn't trade Rau for Kossila ever. Schmidt for Jensen? Heck no. And how about Wilcox for Faragher? Not in a million years. And while we may disagree, I think outside opinions such as NHL scouts, hockeysfuture.com and many analysts would agree. Would I trade Haula for an Anders Lee or a Johnny Gaudreau? Probably.


I agree on forwards (though Kossila's a freshman, we don't know yet if he'll be better than Rau). I (and I repeat, I) would take Faragher over Wilcox, I understand if you would take Wilcox, so let's be happy both wears the sweater he does. But someone who doesn't see that Jensen > Schmidt doesn't know his *** from a hole in the ground.
 
Re: SCSU vs. Bye Jan. 11 & 12

But someone who doesn't see that Jensen > Schmidt doesn't know his *** from a hole in the ground.

They are both very high end blueliners, but I agree. If I could pick one other blueliner in the entire country to play for North Dakota, it would probably be Jensen. He's a special player.

As for the whole "SCSU is as good as anyone else" argument, I tend to agree. SCSU is an extremely talented team, and if they get going, the Huskies are going to be dangerous. They have to learn how to be more consistent though if they want to be taken seriously as a national contender.
 
Re: SCSU vs. Bye Jan. 11 & 12

They are both very high end blueliners, but I agree. If I could pick one other blueliner in the entire country to play for North Dakota, it would probably be Jensen. He's a special player.

As for the whole "SCSU is as good as anyone else" argument, I tend to agree. SCSU is an extremely talented team, and if they get going, the Huskies are going to be dangerous. They have to learn how to be more consistent though if they want to be taken seriously as a national contender.

Oh my goodness, trust me, we know that. We've been inconsistent as hell. And I don't think anyone says we're not being shown proper respect, we're ranked too low, etc. etc.. The boys need to bring it ever night to be in that category. However, if you took a look at us in our wins against Mankato, at Denver, North Dakota and at Duluth, the team those nights was a wrecking ball and could match up with almost any if not every single team in the country. In those games outscored our opponents a collective 23-5, the problem is that that's only been 5 games.

If we played BC and Notre Dame right now could we beat them? Yes. Would we beat them? You can say probably not, but its not like we would have a Holy Cross chance. Hell, I bet if we played Notre Dame and BC on back to back nights at a neutral site this weekend, knowing how we play... we'd probably split. Couldn't tell you which one we'd win, but we'd most likely split.
 
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I agree on forwards (though Kossila's a freshman, we don't know yet if he'll be better than Rau). I (and I repeat, I) would take Faragher over Wilcox, I understand if you would take Wilcox, so let's be happy both wears the sweater he does. But someone who doesn't see that Jensen > Schmidt doesn't know his *** from a hole in the ground.

First, I would say the same thing about Faragher (the part about his *** from a whole in the ground). I've been to games where Faragher has been OK and I've been to games where he's flat out sucked. Sure the defense has been partially to blame too, but he's let in more than his fair share of soft goals. Faragher has had 6 games this year where's let in 4 or more goals. Motzko may believe that he's the goalie that's going to lead you guys to a national champion, but I don't even think he's going to lead you guys to a tournament bid. Wilcox on the other hand has let in 4 or more goals just once this year. Oh...and he's a FRESHMAN. Want some other stats? Faragher: GAA-2.38 with a .907 save % Wilcox: GAA-1.6 (6th in NCAA) with a .929 save %. Not even many of the current SCSU fans think he's much to proud of.

Second, sure I agree Jensen can be a good player. But what are you basing your statement off of? I don't remember being blown away by his play-making ability or his overabundance of hits or his shot-blocking skills. In fact, if you compare Jensen's stats with those of Schmidt you find pretty much identical numbers. Both players are a +7, both take a lot of shots on net (advantage Schmidt slightly) and both have 16 points for their team this season. Schmidt actually has 3 goals to Jensen's 1 and I expect him to net a couple points this weekend. Jensen did have a better start to his college career than Nate did, but Nate turned his game up at least a few notches last season and has greatly helped his team both offensively and defensively.
 
Re: SCSU vs. Bye Jan. 11 & 12

Second, sure I agree Jensen can be a good player. But what are you basing your statement off of? I don't remember being blown away by his play-making ability or his overabundance of hits or his shot-blocking skills. In fact, if you compare Jensen's stats with those of Schmidt you find pretty much identical numbers. Both players are a +7, both take a lot of shots on net (advantage Schmidt slightly) and both have 16 points for their team this season. Schmidt actually has 3 goals to Jensen's 1 and I expect him to net a couple points this weekend. Jensen did have a better start to his college career than Nate did, but Nate turned his game up at least a few notches last season and has greatly helped his team both offensively and defensively.

I don't post very often but your statement in bold tells me you haven't watched SCSU very much. Or if you have you haven't been paying attention.
 
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First, I would say the same thing about Faragher (the part about his *** from a whole in the ground). I've been to games where Faragher has been OK and I've been to games where he's flat out sucked. Sure the defense has been partially to blame too, but he's let in more than his fair share of soft goals. Faragher has had 6 games this year where's let in 4 or more goals. Motzko may believe that he's the goalie that's going to lead you guys to a national champion, but I don't even think he's going to lead you guys to a tournament bid. Wilcox on the other hand has let in 4 or more goals just once this year. Oh...and he's a FRESHMAN. Want some other stats? Faragher: GAA-2.38 with a .907 save % Wilcox: GAA-1.6 (6th in NCAA) with a .929 save %. Not even many of the current SCSU fans think he's much to proud of.

Second, sure I agree Jensen can be a good player. But what are you basing your statement off of? I don't remember being blown away by his play-making ability or his overabundance of hits or his shot-blocking skills. In fact, if you compare Jensen's stats with those of Schmidt you find pretty much identical numbers. Both players are a +7, both take a lot of shots on net (advantage Schmidt slightly) and both have 16 points for their team this season. Schmidt actually has 3 goals to Jensen's 1 and I expect him to net a couple points this weekend. Jensen did have a better start to his college career than Nate did, but Nate turned his game up at least a few notches last season and has greatly helped his team both offensively and defensively.

You have seen Faragher play in some games where he has played poorly? Congrats, so have I. I've also seen him play out of his mind. In WCHA play (common opponents) Faragher has the edge in .915 to .906 sv%, Wilcox has the GAA 2.13 to 2.23. That's pretty pick 'em to me. I've seen both play a number of times, I said, I bet more people would rather have Wilcox in net, and that's fine, but to act like its "Hands-down, OMG, not even CLOSE!!!!" is ridiculous. And also to go he's a freshman proves he's been great so far... but also says its a small sample size. Remember how good Kangas looked in his first half a season?

As far as Jensen being better than Schmidt, they're both juniors so Jensen is still beating him offensively, 12-59-71 to 6-52-58. So while in half a season Schmidt is up by two goals, Jensen still has him by double the goals and 13 points. They're both plus seven this year? Doesn't it help that as a team Minnesota is plus 37 and SCSU is plus 12? I think Schmidt is helped out by a better D-corps and more depth around him than Jensen has.

And its not all numbers. I think Jensen is just a more complete player... the breakout pass, playing the point on the PP, killing penalties (something he and the Huskies have been phenomenal at this season), his physical play, yet he doesn't take dumb penalties, he has less than half the penalty minutes Schmidt has, in fact, he has only had 4 in the last year and a half... which is a combination of great athleticism, good positioning, discipline, and hockey smarts. I'm sorry, but all that adds up to the best two-way defenseman in the WCHA. And I have the feeling if he were in maroon and gold you'd be saying the same thing. :D
 
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Hanowski, Benik, LeBlanc, Faragher (sp?), Dowd, Rehkamp (sp?). Now you tell me about the BC players that these guys are equal to, or better than. Again, you made the original statement and I want YOU to back it up. Much easier to prove a positive than a negative.

Rehkamp? Our part-time 4th line forward? On what drugs are you on to include him with guys who are actually good?
 
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Leblanc has 4 more points than anyone on Minnesota's team in two less games played (Leblanc 30 pts 22 games, Haula 26 pts, 20 games) and leads the WCHA in assists 2nd in the WCHA in scoring behind Walters from UNO.

Kosilla has 1 more goal than anyone on Minnesota in the same number of games played (11 goals in 20 games, top gopher is Bjugstad with 10 goals in 20 games) .
Dowd had 24 pts that would be second by 4 pts and 2 less games on the Gophers (second on the Gophers is Rau with 20 pts in 20 games). Dowd is a complete 2 way player.

Hanowski was out 5 games with a concussion and would be on pace with Bjugstad. Hano (7 goals 8 assists in 17 games, Bjugstad 10 goals and 9 assists in 20 games). Leblanc, Hano and Dowd are on the Hobey voting list.
Hano was lights out before the injury and has just started to be himself in the last couple games.

I wouldn't take anyone on the Gophers over Leblanc (Leblanc controls the puck and sets up everyone). I would only take Gaudreau over Leblanc from BC.

SCSU Euro already talked about Jensen over Schmidt and Jensen isn't as big a defensive liability as I've seen watching Schmidt (gets way too caught up in the offense sometimes and leaves a lane or the middle wide open). Jensen has an uncanny ability to seal guys off with his positioning and is always patient and never gets rattled. I've never seen Jensen get totally burned like I have several times watching Schmidt.

For Minnesota I really like Condon and Schmidt because of their speed. But I wouldn't trade our top 3 or 4 players for them, only Bjugstad Rau and Haula and it would be about an even swap.

Leblanc has great vision and is always changing directions which keeps the D away and on edge (puck control). He is very smart, makes very good decisions and he knows his defensive assignments and does them well.
My only knock is he doesn't have great breakaway speed.

SCSU is struggling right now and always have with defensive trapping teams because of their systems but when they are on I would match them with anyone in the country. When they are off they can be as bad as anyone in the country.
 
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Rehkamp? Our part-time 4th line forward? On what drugs are you on to include him with guys who are actually good?

He challenged me to name 5 who are on the team without looking at a roster. It's a name that stuck with me for some reason - probably from some of the whiny discussions on your threads.
 
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He challenged me to name 5 who are on the team without looking at a roster. It's a name that stuck with me for some reason - probably from some of the whiny discussions on your threads.

He was added mid season last year with all of the injuries. His grandfather was a multi sport athlete and on the Husky football team in the 1950's. He played for Breck in the state tourney (won class A in 2009) and he has a lot of speed.
 
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Leblanc has 4 more points than anyone on Minnesota's team in two less games played (Leblanc 30 pts 22 games, Haula 26 pts, 20 games) and leads the WCHA in assists 2nd in the WCHA in scoring behind Walters from UNO.

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You should hang a banner for that Jan.
 
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