SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Dan Dunn stole that game.

That disallowed goal is so annoying. Why is that even a rule? I don't care if you meant to blow the whistle, you didn't and the puck was in the net. That should be a goal. Heck, why was it even reviewed? Was Adam going to decide he didn't plan on blowing the whistle and allow it?

it's so he could go over to Hak and be like i looked at myself and determined I was going to blow the whistle. Adam sucks.

Why is Don Adam allowed to do North Dakota games? He's exceptionally worse then any other ref when officiating our games.

I won't comment on this weekend as the right call was made on the Genoway hit (minus the "Who done it" portion ), and I didn't see the games this weekend...

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Marvin followed him up because until the dump in, Genoway had the puck. Marvin followed the play and Genoway got the puck back, then got rid of it and Marvin hit him.
It's possible Marvin didn't see Genoway pass it off.
I'm not condoning the hit, it was a CFB and he got the five and the game, I just don't think you can say Marvin was headhunting and intended to hurt him.

Hitting him as high as he did is intent to injure...he was headhunting. If he hits him like normal, Genoway probably doesn't get injured and he only gets 2. It was a dirty and dangerous hit. No excuse.

 

[scsutommyboy]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Marvin followed him up because until the dump in, Genoway had the puck. Marvin followed the play and Genoway got the puck back, then got rid of it and Marvin hit him.
It's possible Marvin didn't see Genoway pass it off.
I'm not condoning the hit, it was a CFB and he got the five and the game, I just don't think you can say Marvin was headhunting and intended to hurt him.

It doesn't matter if he passed it off. The fact is once a player gets rid of the puck you can still hit him. The puck went off his stick and then Marvin followed up and hit him. It wasn't against the rules to check him. It was against the rules to check him high.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Hitting him as high as he did is intent to injure...he was headhunting. If he hits him like normal, Genoway probably doesn't get injured and he only gets 2. It was a dirty and dangerous hit. No excuse.

He gets five and a game either way, I think the suspension happens because of the injury.
I also don't believe that hitting someone high is automatically intent to injure.
Also, Marvin is 6'3", Genoway is 5'9", it's likely that any hit on Genoway by Marvin could be considered "high" with a 6 inch height difference.

 

[Sloe Gin]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

It doesn't matter if he passed it off. The fact is once a player gets rid of the puck you can still hit him. The puck went off his stick and then Marvin followed up and hit him. It wasn't against the rules to check him. It was against the rules to check him high.

no, no you can't. A point man dumps the puck in...you can't hit him 10 seconds later and say oh he had the puck. And if you're watching Marvin, he's keying up on him. He clearly had intent to hit Genoway and my guess is with intent to injure. It was a scumbag hit and a yearlong suspension should be in order.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

It doesn't matter if he passed it off. The fact is once a player gets rid of the puck you can still hit him. The puck went off his stick and then Marvin followed up and hit him. It wasn't against the rules to check him. It was against the rules to check him high.

Where did I say it wasn't against the rules to hit him high?
I'm just saying I don't believe you can argue it was automatically intent to injure.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

no, no you can't. A point man dumps the puck in...you can't hit him 10 seconds later and say oh he had the puck. And if you're watching Marvin, he's keying up on him. He clearly had intent to hit Genoway and my guess is with intent to injure. It was a scumbag hit and a yearlong suspension should be in order.

Yearlong?
Nice overreaction.
And I'd like you to prove he meant to hurt him, go ahead.

 

[Dirty]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Marvin should've just shot Chay in the head. Then it clearly would've been intent to injure. Don Adam still wouldn't have called it though. I meant to blow my whistle, so it's not a penalty.

 

[The Paragon of Virtue]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Also, Marvin is 6'3", Genoway is 5'9", it's likely that any hit on Genoway by Marvin could be considered "high" with a 6 inch height difference.

Don't use Pronger physics.

Dunn did a rather good job tonight. I'm also really glad to have Novak back on the ice. His speed really stretches the rink for SCSU.

 

[scsutommyboy]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Hitting him as high as he did is intent to injure...he was headhunting. If he hits him like normal, Genoway probably doesn't get injured and he only gets 2. It was a dirty and dangerous hit. No excuse.

Question for you. Have you ever played hockey? I would think if you have you would see how these things happen. I agree players need to play more in control and when they don't they have to pay the price by sitting out. However, in the heat of the battle and when you go to hit a guy at full speed these things happen sometime and your arms get up to high. I guarantee not every time these type of hits happen the guy is trying to hurt the other guy. Marvin has never been a dirty player in the past, so I think he should get he benefit of the doubt. Like I said before it doesn't make what he did right, but there is a difference between playing hard and a little careless and trying to hurt someone.

 

[scsutommyboy]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

no, no you can't. A point man dumps the puck in...you can't hit him 10 seconds later and say oh he had the puck. And if you're watching Marvin, he's keying up on him. He clearly had intent to hit Genoway and my guess is with intent to injure. It was a scumbag hit and a yearlong suspension should be in order.

First of all check the rules buddy. Of course you can't check him 10 seconds later, but that isn't what happend here. You clearly are clueless so I am done debating this with you.

 

[The Rube]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Question for you. Have you ever played hockey? I would think if you have you would see how these things happen. I agree players need to play more in control and when they don't they have to pay the price by sitting out. However, in the heat of the battle and when you go to hit a guy at full speed these things happen sometime and your arms get up to high. I guarantee not every time these type of hits happen the guy is trying to hurt the other guy. Marvin has never been a dirty player in the past, so I think he should get he benefit of the doubt. Like I said before it doesn't make what he did right, but there is a difference between playing hard and a little careless and trying to hurt someone.

I know for a fact that MNS has played hockey, including HS hockey if I am not mistaken, at a non-crappy HS, no less.

This particular hit was maybe not 100% to injure, but IMO I think Marvin wanted to ring his bell a little.

 

[brianvf]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Yearlong?
Nice overreaction.

Sloe is the king of the over reaction.

Question for you. Have you ever played hockey?

You should have just brought up his post count and lost the verbal argument that way instead.

 

[Dirty]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

First of all check the rules buddy. Of course you can't check him 10 seconds later, but that isn't what happend here. You clearly are clueless so I am done debating this with you.

This stance doesn't make sense. You continually debate things with FTLT.

 

[scsutommyboy]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Where did I say it wasn't against the rules to hit him high?
I'm just saying I don't believe you can argue it was automatically intent to injure.

I didn't say you did. I actually agreed with you for once.

 

[scsutommyboy]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

I know for a fact that MNS has played hockey, including HS hockey if I am not mistaken, at a non-crappy HS, no less.

This particular hit was maybe not 100% to injure, but IMO I think Marvin wanted to ring his bell a little.

Then he needs to take his UND glasses off and realize it's possible he wasn't trying to hurt him. It's easy for a guy to hit someone high when you have 5 inches on them especially when they are leaning against the boards.

 

[The Rube]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Sloe is the king of the over reaction.



You should have just brought up his post count and lost the verbal argument that way instead.

True, and true.

1 game is fair, I guess. I would've said 2 games, if only for the attention those kinds of hits have been given in the last couple of years.

And scsutommy: take off your beer goggles and realize that it looked like intent to injure. We'll never know for sure, but it looked like it.

 

[scsutommyboy]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

This stance doesn't make sense. You continually debate things with FTLT.

I do that just to pi$s her off.

 

[Dirty]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

I do that just to pi$s her off.

Geist might shoot you though, so you should probably just let him remain angry.

 

[Happy]

Re: SCSU @ UND - November 13-14

Nothing like a good "UND whining about the Refs again" fest to make everyone else smile. Has UND ever lost a single game when it wasn't the refs fault? I didn't think so.