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SCSU 2009-2010 Season Thread

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motox said:
10 pts, absolutely. FTLT is saying 14 of the 16 pts, that's a huge difference. My expectation (based on my post) is 12-13 points, which I still don't think gives them much of a chance. If they find a way to get 14 pts they have a shot at the title. We need to make up two pts on Denver and that isn't going to be easy considering they play MN, Tech, Kato, and then CC.

Don't get me wrong I'd love to see them win it, but after DU sweeping last wknd and us dropping that game to CC, top 3 finish is the more realistic goal IMO (which is exactly what I was predicting before the season began, along with their first NCAA win!:D) As H4L said, get one of the bottom 3 in the first round AND avoid the play-in game.
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I wouldn't count them out yet. Do I think they will get it done? Until they prove they can do it I am not going to believe it until I see it. Hopefully this is the year.
 
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I know last week when we were tied with Denver we had the tie breaker. Can that be reversed or is set that if we tie in points we carry the tie breaker at the end of the season?
 
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motox said:
I know last week when we were tied with Denver we had the tie breaker. Can that be reversed or is set that if we tie in points we carry the tie breaker at the end of the season?
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First tie-breaker is head-to-head. That's a tie and won't change.
Second tie-breaker is WCHA wins. That's currently 12 to 12.
Third tie-breaker is least goals given up in the head to head. Denver wins that 6 to 7.

In other words, the only way to win a tie with Denver is to have more wins than they do.
 
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Red Cloud said:
First tie-breaker is head-to-head. That's a tie and won't change.
Second tie-breaker is WCHA wins. That's currently 12 to 12.
Third tie-breaker is least goals given up in the head to head. Denver wins that 6 to 7.

In other words, the only way to win a tie with Denver is to have more wins than they do.
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True, we're currently tied 12 to 12 in wins, but they're ahead of us by two points. Most likely if we catch them, it'll be by making up those 2 points with a win. So the tiebreaker is if you're ahead in points, its who has less ties, which we're ahead of, so let's win one more than Denver and beat them by the greatest two words in the English language DE FAULT. :D
 
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SCSU Euro said:
True, we're currently tied 12 to 12 in wins, but they're ahead of us by two points. Most likely if we catch them, it'll be by making up those 2 points with a win. So the tiebreaker is if you're ahead in points, its who has less ties, which we're ahead of, so let's win one more than Denver and beat them by the greatest two words in the English language DE FAULT. :D
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Yes, this is exactly right. Unless the Huskies catch up by way of a pair of ties, they'll win a tiebreaker with DU.
 
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scsutommyboy said:
The Huskies need to play the rest of the season one game at a time. They need to get better goaltending out Dunn or he needs to sit. You can't expect the team to bail him out every friday night.
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Because Lee set the world on fire Saturday?

Check the stats. Dunn is better in every one of them.
 
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Tipsy McStagger said:
Because Lee set the world on fire Saturday?

Check the stats. Dunn is better in every one of them.
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Over the whole season Dunn has been better, last few games, Dunn has let in a few softies and Lee has not.
Neither goalie was exceptional last weekend, but then neither was the team defense.
 
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First Time said:
Over the whole season Dunn has been better, last few games, Dunn has let in a few softies and Lee has not.
Neither goalie was exceptional last weekend, but then neither was the team defense.
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Perhaps you noticed which goalie won?
 
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Tipsy McStagger said:
Because Lee set the world on fire Saturday?

Check the stats. Dunn is better in every one of them.
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I have been a huge Dunn supporter all year, so yes I know the stats. I didn't see either game last weekend did you? I am going off of what coach Motzko and Don Lyons said. From what they said Lee was hung out to dry and Dunn let in a couple softies. That is two weeks in a row the team bailed him out and at this point in the season we can't have that. If he let's in softies this Friday then we needs to sit. I don't think that is being unfair at all.
 
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They didn't win because of Dunn and they didn't lose because of Lee. The defense crapped the bed on saturday and the offense, along with some soft goaltending from Howe helped them win on friday. Fact is Dunn has given up some soft ones his last couple of starts and Lee hasn't. The stats can't be all you look at, how they play has to factor into it and Lee has had the better of the play. If Dunn continues to give up soft ones and Lee doesn't, i'd think Motzko will make a move.
 
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First Time said:
They didn't win because of Dunn and they didn't lose because of Lee. The defense crapped the bed on saturday and the offense, along with some soft goaltending from Howe helped them win on friday. Fact is Dunn has given up some soft ones his last couple of starts and Lee hasn't. The stats can't be all you look at, how they play has to factor into it and Lee has had the better of the play. If Dunn continues to give up soft ones and Lee doesn't, i'd think Motzko will make a move.
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Not if Dunn keeps winning. If he beats UAA 4-3 and gives up two soft goals and Lee loses 2-1 there's no way Dunn gets benched. As for last weekend, it's not like the D was all that much better Friday. I watched the Saturday game and while the D definitely hung Lee out to dry and none of the goals were "soft" we need our goalies to step up and make a couple of those saves that they "shouldn't make." Neither goalie stepped up last weekend. The rotation will continue unless one of them has a major meltdown where the team loses big AND the other one plays lights out. What's going to be interesting is to see what Motzko does in the playoffs if the rotation continues. The first series I can see the rotation but does it stay that way in the Final 5 (assuming we're there.) If one is playing much better it's an easy decision but if they're close to the same......:confused:
 
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First Time said:
They didn't win because of Dunn and they didn't lose because of Lee. The defense crapped the bed on saturday and the offense, along with some soft goaltending from Howe helped them win on friday. Fact is Dunn has given up some soft ones his last couple of starts and Lee hasn't. The stats can't be all you look at, how they play has to factor into it and Lee has had the better of the play. If Dunn continues to give up soft ones and Lee doesn't, i'd think Motzko will make a move.
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I didn't see the game, but I imagined that Lee let in 3 softies, so there! Both of the guys need to step it up.
 
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motox said:
Not if Dunn keeps winning. If he beats UAA 4-3 and gives up two soft goals and Lee loses 2-1 there's no way Dunn gets benched. As for last weekend, it's not like the D was all that much better Friday. I watched the Saturday game and while the D definitely hung Lee out to dry and none of the goals were "soft" we need our goalies to step up and make a couple of those saves that they "shouldn't make." Neither goalie stepped up last weekend. The rotation will continue unless one of them has a major meltdown where the team loses big AND the other one plays lights out. What's going to be interesting is to see what Motzko does in the playoffs if the rotation continues. The first series I can see the rotation but does it stay that way in the Final 5 (assuming we're there.) If one is playing much better it's an easy decision but if they're close to the same......:confused:
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No, neither goalie stepped up, but it has to be about more than wins, how they play has to be factored into it and except for Saturday, Lee has played great of late and Dunn has not played well his last few starts.
I can see the rotation lasting all year, into the NCAA's if neither "claims" the job and I think we can be successful that way as I don't think this team cares about who's in net, what line they are on or any of it, they just go play.

Skeeterman said:
I didn't see the game, but I imagined that Lee let in 3 softies, so there! Both of the guys need to step it up.
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You'd be wrong on Lee and yes both need to step it up, but so does the D as a whole which didn't happen last weekend.
 
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here's the deal: The main purpose of the goalie is to stop pucks, especially the ones where the D hangs them out to dry. Otherwise, anyone could stop a lot of the pucks that are shot. If a goalie lets in 5 or 6 goals, some of them must have been soft ones, or at least ones that they could have had. Lee played exceptional against the Gophers game 2. If he had played the same way against CC, we would have creamed CC. Not to say its Lee's fault, just sayin. Lee does not walk on water. He may perform other miracles, I just want to see more of them.

Dunn rules!
 
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St. Cloud represent, here are 3 of the whitest guys imaginable:

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I watched that about three weeks ago and as a native New Yorker it made me want to stab myself in both of my eyes.
 
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scsutommyboy said:
I have been a huge Dunn supporter all year, so yes I know the stats. I didn't see either game last weekend did you? I am going off of what coach Motzko and Don Lyons said. From what they said Lee was hung out to dry and Dunn let in a couple softies. That is two weeks in a row the team bailed him out and at this point in the season we can't have that. If he let's in softies this Friday then we needs to sit. I don't think that is being unfair at all.
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I don't have a big enough hard-on for Lee to say that Dunn should sit. That's ridonkulous.
 
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scsutommyboy said:
I have been a huge Dunn supporter all year, so yes I know the stats. I didn't see either game last weekend did you? I am going off of what coach Motzko and Don Lyons said. From what they said Lee was hung out to dry and Dunn let in a couple softies. That is two weeks in a row the team bailed him out and at this point in the season we can't have that. If he let's in softies this Friday then we needs to sit. I don't think that is being unfair at all.
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I think it is unfair if you just base it off of the past two series. Dunn is not playing his best, but I think going into the second half of the season he had proved himself to be better than Lee. Dunn struggles for two games and you are saying if he struggles a third game, bench him? It's a long season, players are going to get hot and cool off.

Maybe I missed the game where Mike Lee played his way into a starting job. I haven't seen one great game from him this year.
 
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