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Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

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Kepler said:
That's engineering, the B students. Not science, the A students.

(It will be sold by business, the C students.)
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Try becoming a marketing director in silicon valley or at a F500 company. You are truly swimming with the sharks.

This isn't the 1940s. Today's brightest follow the money and are in business.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Try becoming a marketing director in silicon valley or at a F500 company. You are truly swimming with the sharks.

This isn't the 1940s. Today's brightest follow the money and are in business.
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Being an acquisitive aggressive as-shole is not the same as being intelligent.

In fact, those characteristics are kinda mutually exclusive.

Business is a garbage truck union -- obviously you have to pay people a lot to be willing to do that sh-t work so the rest of us don't have to.
 
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Kepler said:
Being an acquisitive aggressive as-shole is not the same as being intelligent.

In fact, those characteristics are kinda mutually exclusive.

Business is a garbage truck union -- obviously you have to pay people a lot to be willing to do that sh-t work so the rest of us don't have to.
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Obviously disagree. To greatly succeed, the difficulty is off the carts and so can be the impacts.

Business deals with a wide open sandbox - the art of the possible. It applies the concepts and sometimes ideas of science...puts them into the real world (creating goods/svcs that must benefit people) and forces one to be the best or fail.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Obviously disagree. To greatly succeed, the difficulty is off the carts and so can be the impacts.

Business deals with a wide open sandbox - the art of the possible. It applies the concepts and sometimes ideas of science...puts them into the real world (creating goods/svcs that must benefit people) and forces one to be the best or fail.
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"Success" is the shiny toy we give the slow kids to keep them occupied and out of our way while we do the adult work.
 
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Could we just agree that both of your generalizations about where the bright kids end up are wrong and useless?
 
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5mn_Major said:
Try becoming a marketing director in silicon valley or at a F500 company. You are truly swimming with the sharks.

This isn't the 1940s. Today's brightest follow the money and are in business.
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rotflmao
 
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GrinCDXX said:
Could we just agree that both of your generalizations about where the bright kids end up are wrong and useless?
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Wrong, no - there's validity on both sides. Useless, yes. Its the overall system of having innovation that works for people that matters.
 
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Hey now, let's not go generalizing all the business school students. It's the finance majors that are the real ********, making money just by manipulating it, or telling other people how they should let them manipulate theirs for them. ;)
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Hey now, let's not go generalizing all the business school students. It's the finance majors that are the real ********, making money just by manipulating it, or telling other people how they should let them manipulate theirs for them. ;)
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Pushing electrons should be left to physicists, not traders.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Try becoming a marketing director in silicon valley or at a F500 company. You are truly swimming with the sharks.

This isn't the 1940s. Today's brightest follow the money and are in business.
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Baloney. Every dumb jock I knew went into finance or business management and from what I can tell in watching kids the same age as my sons it's not changed a lick.
 
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Agreed. The only truly brilliant people in finance are the quants and actuaries. There might be some other specialized jobs in the industry where the nerds go to hide, but the average finance major is not one of them. The sociopaths all went into business admin.

This isn't to say there aren't smart people in finance or that people who went into finance aren't smart. But to say that it's where the brightest people go is absurd. The brightest are the ones who develop new-to-the-world technologies, develop cosmological theories, or solve the Navier-Stokes equations.

I can tell you right now, the smartest people in my company aren't the ones in suits. They're the ones buried in the basement labs.
 
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This isn't science either, it's technology, but it's so cool: closer, and closer, inexorably, the future comes on.

I love this quote:

SpaceX doesn’t intend to make any major revisions to the Block 5, though, save for small changes to improve flight reliability and reusability. The company will likely have between 30 to 50 Block 5 rockets in rotation at some point, according to Musk. The number depends on which customers insist on flying satellites on a new vehicle, though he’s hoping the mentality on used rockets will change in the coming years. “The general sentiment will change from... feeling like, ‘A flown rocket is scary,’ to ‘An unflown rocket is scary,’” Musk said.
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Kepler said:
This isn't science either, it's technology, but it's so cool: closer, and closer, inexorably, the future comes on.

I love this quote:
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Next thread we should just officially migrate to "STEM: "
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Next thread we should just officially migrate to "STEM: "
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Meh, let's not. Let's have S&M (ahem) for the brains and T&E for the brawn. They are very different fish.
 
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Kepler said:
Meh, let's not. Let's have S&M (ahem) for the brains and T&E for the brawn. They are very different fish.
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Whaddaya do with the guy with a physics degree and an engineering degree?
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
This isn't to say there aren't smart people in finance or that people who went into finance aren't smart. But to say that it's where the brightest people go is absurd.
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That's why I said "bassturds", not geniuses.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Baloney. Every dumb jock I knew went into finance or business management and from what I can tell in watching kids the same age as my sons it's not changed a lick.
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And the real world?

Its true there are critical humanitarian services that are not rewarded by society - education, parenting, third world services. But beyond that, value is determined by society. So...I would love to think a clever idea I just thought of is going to be of value to everyone. But frankly, most ideas aren't worth much. For societal products and services beyond the humanitarian ones discussed above, the business world - and ultimately the consumer decides. Why is it most comfortable/great living in either the US or Europe? Because business and government services (using the foundation of business) has made it so.

Supply and demand describes where value is added. Per glassdoor, the average CEO makes $13.8m/yr. and per HuffPo, the top masters programs for making money are MBAs. If there wasn't value being created by business, those salaries would be unsustainable. In the end, the majority of science in the 21st century is a tool for its consumer application as determined by business. Where this is wrong?

Its an academic discussion, but interesting nonetheless.
 
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You’re confusing salary with intelligence. I’m not sure how. But you are.
 
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