Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

[Kepler]

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value is determined by society

Thus do I refute you.

 

[5mn_Major]

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You’re confusing salary with intelligence. I’m not sure how. But you are.

Because its closer to real world intellectual talent than is a college course.

 

[5mn_Major]

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That's engineering, the B students. Not science, the A students.

(It will be sold by business, the C students.)

Yep, based on Steve Jobs, Bill Gate and even Einstein...you can't tie school to intellect.

And Mark's perspective?

https://www.elitedaily.com/money/c-students-are-successful-in-life/1039028

 

[dxmnkd316]

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You do know it’s a myth that Einstein was a bad student, right?

 

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FFS, we were joking around, and then leave it to 5mn to be a buzzkill and twist it into a serious discussion. He's like the new Fishy.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Because its closer to real world intellectual talent than is a college course.

That's two narrow in scope. Are millionaire athletes on the whole more intelligent than the rest of us? If the only goal in life was to get rich than they're winning. I'd like to think there's more to it than that.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Thus do I refute you.

I totally missed this the first time through.

Perfect.

 

[unofan]

And the real world?

Its true there are critical humanitarian services that are not rewarded by society - education, parenting, third world services. But beyond that, value is determined by society.

Value has nothing to do with intelligence. 80,000 showed up to Nebraska's spring game, which is nothing more than a glorified practice. That doesn't mean the freshman nose tackle is more intelligent than the physics professor with 5 students in his class.

 

[5mn_Major]

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You do know it’s a myth that Einstein was a bad student, right?

At the age of 16, Einstein tried to enter the Swiss Federal Polytechnic and was turned down. The point is that frequently scholastic standards are not determinant of applied intellect and ingenuity.

That's two narrow in scope. Are millionaire athletes on the whole more intelligent than the rest of us? If the only goal in life was to get rich than they're winning. I'd like to think there's more to it than that.

Money is not relevant if you blindly compare everyone who has ever gotten money...if you do, then you'd overvalue those who inherited money for example. You need to look at where the money shows up in a value chain - that's where value-add competes.

'Scientists' and the like professions are idea generators (I am probably best described as a business 'scientist' myself). Some scientists add good value, some don't - but beyond that, they really don't do anything themselves. All this is for the consumer and they are king. Business represents consumer expertise, the ability to develop applications, monetize it, bring a complex business model all together, finance it and shepherd it all through to the consumer with support.

No question, science is very important. But in the value chain of idea generation to consumer, business is where the challenge and value is at...and that's why supply and demand dictates that the money shows up in the value chain on the business side rather than the science side.

 

[GrinCDXX]

At the age of 16, Einstein tried to enter the Swiss Federal Polytechnic and was turned down. The point is that frequently scholastic standards are not determinant of applied intellect and ingenuity.



Money is not relevant if you blindly compare everyone who has ever gotten money...if you do, then you'd overvalue those who inherited money for example. You need to look at where the money shows up in a value chain - that's where value-add competes.

'Scientists' and the like professions are idea generators (I am probably best described as a business 'scientist' myself). Some scientists add good value, some don't - but beyond that, they really don't do anything themselves. All this is for the consumer and they are king. Business represents consumer expertise, the ability to develop applications, monetize it, bring a complex business model all together, finance it and shepherd it all through to the consumer with support.

No question, science is very important. But in the value chain of idea generation to consumer, business is where the challenge and value is at...and that's why supply and demand dictates that the money shows up in the value chain on the business side rather than the science side.

I'm sort of confused as to what you are suggesting from the perspective of where the conversation started. Business is where value is added in the pursuit of making stuff for consumers to consume...therefore, the best and brightest naturally gravitate to business. Is that the point you're making? Because, it's a non sequitur.

 

[5mn_Major]

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I'm sort of confused as to what you are suggesting from the perspective of where the conversation started. Business is where value is added in the pursuit of making stuff for consumers to consume...therefore, the best and brightest naturally gravitate to business. Is that the point you're making? Because, it's a non sequitur.

Not that the best and brightest are naturally attracted to business...but rather complexity and achievements highlight the superhuman outcomes that can be attained in business. For example...whether he ends up being successful, can you offer a single scientist effort on par with what E Musk is doing? He's not only pushing the envelop of technological application in numerous different fields with the potential of changing the course of human history, he's driving an array of wide reaching scientist breakthroughs himself.

 

[Kepler]

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For example...whether he ends up being successful, can you offer a single scientist effort on par with what E Musk is doing?

Jesus, the fact that you're serious is so beyond appalling it's actually entertaining.

 

[5mn_Major]

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Jesus, the fact that you're serious is so beyond appalling it's actually entertaining.

Relax. This is a message board and he asked me a question.

 

[unofan]

Relax. This is a message board and he asked me a question.

He said without a hint of irony given his postings in the religion thread...

 

[alfablue]

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Not that the best and brightest are naturally attracted to business...but rather complexity and achievements highlight the superhuman outcomes that can be attained in business. For example...whether he ends up being successful, can you offer a single scientist effort on par with what E Musk is doing? He's not only pushing the envelop of technological application in numerous different fields with the potential of changing the course of human history, he's driving an array of wide reaching scientist breakthroughs himself.

No, he is not. He's only using the massive amount of money for a overpriced decent idea, and using that to put other people's ideas into production. And not that well, I should point out. The idea that Musk has fooled you into thinking he is more than he really is, well, that's interesting.

None of the ideas that are going into the Tesla cars nor the Space X rockets are his. They are the ideas of many others.

 

[joecct]

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Apparently guys who stare at women's breasts live longer.

http://www.viralthread.com/staring-at-boobs-is-one-of-six-ways-men-can-actually-live-longer/

Anyone want to test the theory?

 

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Speaking of 5mn's emperor-god Elon Musk, he got roasted good the other day. Such a poor lil' snowflake.

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[Kepler]

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Speaking of 5mn's emperor-god Elon Musk, he got roasted good the other day. Such a poor lil' snowflake.

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[5mn_Major]

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No, he is not. He's only using the massive amount of money for a overpriced decent idea, and using that to put other people's ideas into production. And not that well, I should point out.

None of the ideas that are going into the Tesla cars nor the Space X rockets are his. They are the ideas of many others.

Commercial innovators have many options. An idea must wait for someone to use it. The iPhone 4S incorporated 10,000s ideas plus 1 Steve Jobs.

Who invented digital media storage? Kane Kramer. Though he held the patent for a while, he couldn't afford to renew the worldwide patent on his idea. Because the patent had expired by the time MP3 players became a big business, he didn't make any money from his original idea when it started showing up in everyone's pocket in the 2000s.

Kramer's contribution was great. But the concept was largely irrelevant until Steve Jobs changed peoples lives with said concept...and as a result, he is a real world snowflake and you know more about him than you do some of your own cousins.

 

[Kepler]

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Commercial innovators have many options. An idea must wait for someone to use it. The iPhone 4S incorporated 10,000s ideas plus 1 Steve Jobs.

Who invented digital media storage? Kane Kramer. Though he held the patent for a while, he couldn't afford to renew the worldwide it on his idea. Because the patent had expired by the time MP3 players became a big business, he didn't make any money from his original idea when it started showing up in everyone's pocket in the 2000s.

Kramer's contribution was great. But the concept was largely irrelevant until Steve Jobs changed peoples lives with said concept...and as a result, he is a real world snowflake and you know more about him than you do some of your own cousins.

By your ideology, F. Scott Fitzgerald didn't give the world Gatzby, his publisher did.