Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

[altazo]

Also, while I'm at it, we can report that St. A's is moving closer to D1 hockey.

http://jarpride.com/2013/07/02/college-hockey-realignment-st-as-inching-closer/

I'm pretty sure St. Anselm wasn't 19-4-4 last season as this article states, so I guess I'm not sure what information is factual in it.

 

[norm1909]

Re: Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

Their WOMEN's team was 19-4-4 last year.

 

[eXcSports]

Re: Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

The facts on the article came from the NH news source mentioned. I may have misinterpreted the article in fact checking, mainly because the article was rushed earlier. Thanks for the clarifications, but I can assure you that the remainder of the facts, including the quotes by the AD and the commissioner of the AHA, are, indeed factual.

 

[neumyer]

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I believe this quote from the article refers to the St A's women's team as well.......

St. Anselm has won the last four league championships and have a record of 178-51-11 in their nine seasons in Division II. They’ve had nine winning seasons in their last ten.

 

[hawkhockey]

Also, while I'm at it, we can report that St. A's is moving closer to D1 hockey.

http://jarpride.com/2013/07/02/college-hockey-realignment-st-as-inching-closer/

Ok for the last time, St A 's. is not reaching out the to the Atlantic Hockey League. Atlantic Hockey has reached out to them at least 3 times and nothing has changed
Their new president starts In a couple of weeks. He comes from a DIII catholic 2000 student college and worked at Fairfield University that was is DI, an original member of Atlantic Hockey and DROPPED hockey because of. Costs..

 

[hawkhockey]

Re: Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

Time to put the all the talk about St.A's moving to DI to rest. According to sources at the college, it is not going to happen.
The college has decided to first explore the possibility of having their games count .This will be a long, tough and time consuming process. but many. Think, needs to be done.
It will simultaneously, seriously explore reclassifying to DIII status.
One of the major stumbling blocks is finding a league for other sports but there is serious talk of creating a new DIII league.
There is also talk (long shot) of creating a primarily Catholic DIII Catholic hockey league. St.A's , St.Mike, Assumption, Stonehill, Salve, Manhattanville and maybe a couple on non Catholic schools creating an 8 team league. A bit far fetched but there is talk. We will see.

 

[jerrynu26]

Re: Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

Time to put the all the talk about St.A's moving to DI to rest. According to sources at the college, it is not going to happen.
The college has decided to first explore the possibility of having their games count .This will be a long, tough and time consuming process. but many. Think, needs to be done.
It will simultaneously, seriously explore reclassifying to DIII status.
One of the major stumbling blocks is finding a league for other sports but there is serious talk of creating a new DIII league.
There is also talk (long shot) of creating a primarily Catholic DIII Catholic hockey league. St.A's , St.Mike, Assumption, Stonehill, Salve, Manhattanville and maybe a couple on non Catholic schools creating an 8 team league. A bit far fetched but there is talk. We will see.

As I understand it, there is also talk that St Mike's will drop to club level status as well.

Not really sure what exploring the possibility of having the games count means? IIRC, that road has been gone down before, and without reclassifying, it is a dead end.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Time to put the all the talk about St.A's moving to DI to rest. According to sources at the college, it is not going to happen.
The college has decided to first explore the possibility of having their games count .This will be a long, tough and time consuming process. but many. Think, needs to be done.
It will simultaneously, seriously explore reclassifying to DIII status.
One of the major stumbling blocks is finding a league for other sports but there is serious talk of creating a new DIII league.
There is also talk (long shot) of creating a primarily Catholic DIII Catholic hockey league. St.A's , St.Mike, Assumption, Stonehill, Salve, Manhattanville and maybe a couple on non Catholic schools creating an 8 team league. A bit far fetched but there is talk. We will see.

At a glance, the ECAC-E would still have 8 men's teams if such a Catholic League were formed, but Manhattanville leaving would be another nail in the coffin of the ECAC-W. And unless Franklin Pierce and So. NH were the "couple non-catholic schools", those two would be left to die by such a move.

Interesting speculation can be had here, that's for sure...

 

[hawkhockey]

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Fraknlin Pierce and SNHU will not reclassify as a DIII so they are out of the mix and would probably end up in club status if this new league were to happen.

there has been a few very informal conversations with 3-4 schools about a new league and no one has said no yet but it is very early.
As to trying to get the games to count, not sure I agree that we have been down this road before. St.A's think there is a chance, albeit ever so slight, so they are going to go as far as they can down this road to get the final definitive answer.

 

[joecct]

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Why not a NE-10 league (rebeating a dead horse)?
The two Saints + the current hockey NE-10?

Say they're a D-II league and play AHA bottom feeders in addition to a 28 game conference schedule.
Plus the conference winner gets an AQ into the D-I tournament

 

[jerrynu26]

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As to trying to get the games to count, not sure I agree that we have been down this road before. St.A's think there is a chance, albeit ever so slight, so they are going to go as far as they can down this road to get the final definitive answer.

AFAIK there hasn't been any change in the makeup of NCAA DIII membership that would allow any other answer but the one that has already been given.

 

[hawkhockey]

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not disagreeing with you but not sure the question has been asked to receive what you believe to a no way answer.
all I am saying is that St.A's is going to ask the question.
Your own Mike McShane brought up the idea as a possible way to expand the number of teams and allow a 12th playoff spot.

 

[jerrynu26]

Re: Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

not disagreeing with you but not sure the question has been asked to receive what you believe to a no way answer.
all I am saying is that St.A's is going to ask the question.
Your own Mike McShane brought up the idea as a possible way to expand the number of teams and allow a 12th playoff spot.

I know Mike would like to see expansion (and wouldn't ANY DIII fan). I just don't see a scenario that allows that without reclassification.

In any case, we should all see the result by this time next year.

 

[Hockeyfan2113]

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At a glance, the ECAC-E would still have 8 men's teams if such a Catholic League were formed, but Manhattanville leaving would be another nail in the coffin of the ECAC-W. And unless Franklin Pierce and So. NH were the "couple non-catholic schools", those two would be left to die by such a move.

Interesting speculation can be had here, that's for sure...

I am hearing Stevenson is preparing to make the jump and go D-III and join the ECAC-W. I would expect a more formal announcement to come during the season perhaps if and when everything is prepared to go.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

I am hearing Stevenson is preparing to make the jump and go D-III and join the ECAC-W. I would expect a more formal announcement to come during the season perhaps if and when everything is prepared to go.

Which would be fine, and get them to 7 teams, thus starting the 2-year clock toward getting the AQ... But would prove fruitless in the event that Manhattanville jumped into this proposed "catholic league".

Although this possibility of an AQ in the W might be a motivation to stay in their current league.

 

[hawkhockey]

Which would be fine, and get them to 7 teams, thus starting the 2-year clock toward getting the AQ... But would prove fruitless in the event that Manhattanville jumped into this proposed "catholic league".

Although this possibility of an AQ in the W might be a motivation to stay in their current league.

Saint A's has been out front in their desire to get more exposure n the Md/DC area. Stevenson was founded as a catholic college , maybe they would be a good fit for the new league ( if it were to come about)

 

[joecct]

Re: Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

I am hearing Stevenson is preparing to make the jump and go D-III and join the ECAC-W. I would expect a more formal announcement to come during the season perhaps if and when everything is prepared to go.

The women announced at the 2011 Caps preseason game in Baltimore. The Caps play there again on 9/17. Dare we hope, but they need a sugar daddy to build an on campus rink.

 

[SNHUPenman]

Re: Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

At a glance, the ECAC-E would still have 8 men's teams if such a Catholic League were formed, but Manhattanville leaving would be another nail in the coffin of the ECAC-W. And unless Franklin Pierce and So. NH were the "couple non-catholic schools", those two would be left to die by such a move.

Interesting speculation can be had here, that's for sure...

I can say with 100% certainly SNHU will not be moving to D3 now or ever.

If this move by the Catholics were to happen it might finally be the push SNHU needs to get things in order with the hockey program and make a move up if they can talk the AHA into it.

I shared emails with the AD recently on this subject asking specifically what the deal was with hockey. D2 hockey isn't worth the investment and D3 simply is not worth moving all programs down for the least successful one. I asked if D1 were going to happen. Doesn't appear to be to be happening anytime soon however, there was no official no. Basically I was told a lot rides on what St. A's does. But was reassured that hockey is in the long term plans at SNHU.

So, St. A's please make a move. I want to move up--SNHU has the money to do it. They just need someone to light the candle.

 

[hawkhockey]

I can say with 100% certainly SNHU will not be moving to D3 now or ever.

If this move by the Catholics were to happen it might finally be the push SNHU needs to get things in order with the hockey program and make a move up if they can talk the AHA into it.

I shared emails with the AD recently on this subject asking specifically what the deal was with hockey. D2 hockey isn't worth the investment and D3 simply is not worth moving all programs down for the least successful one. I asked if D1 were going to happen. Doesn't appear to be to be happening anytime soon however, there was no official no. Basically I was told a lot rides on what St. A's does. But was reassured that hockey is in the long term plans at SNHU.

So, St. A's please make a move. I want to move up--SNHU has the money to do it. They just need someone to light the candle.

There is better than a 60/40 probability that ST.A's will join St.Mike's in declaring their intention to reclassify as a DIII institution.

Only real stumbling block is a league for other sports. They are in conversations with a number of schools about starting a new league.. Good chance they will announce the move early 2014

 

[NUProf]

Re: Saint Anselm possibly moving up to D-I?

There is better than a 60/40 probability that ST.A's will join St.Mike's in declaring their intention to reclassify as a DIII institution.

Only real stumbling block is a league for other sports. They are in conversations with a number of schools about starting a new league.. Good chance they will announce the move early 2014

The GNAC has a history of being really pretty fungible, and lots of Norwich road trips go through Manchester on the way to Boston.