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Russian Invasion of Ukraine

Biden and Zelensky announce a 10-year, $50bn bilateral security agreement between the US and Ukraine. The money will come from frozen Russian assets held by all the G7 countries. The deal will allow expanded intelligence sharing, fund advanced training for Ukrainian troops, and make investments into Ukraine's industrial base so that they can supply their own war machine (munitions factories, obv). The deal also includes a number of F-16s that Ukraine has been asking for for months.
 
Biden and Zelensky announce a 10-year, $50bn bilateral security agreement between the US and Ukraine. The money will come from frozen Russian assets held by all the G7 countries. The deal will allow expanded intelligence sharing, fund advanced training for Ukrainian troops, and make investments into Ukraine's industrial base so that they can supply their own war machine (munitions factories, obv). The deal also includes a number of F-16s that Ukraine has been asking for for months.

I'd have been happier with $50T, which is probably closer to the oligarch's funds in Western banks.
 
That's fucking insane. The Black Sea fleet was supposed to be a juggernaut. This war has changed tomes of strategy and value assessments around the world.
 
TBF, we’ve seem to let the Russians learn this very expensive lesson instead of us.

TBF, the russian way of fighting a war kind of works well for drones. Just throwing more assets at a fight without really changing with a lot of thought makes it easy to keep defending with drones.

AND the russian navy isn't exactly known for lighting up wars.
 
I'm not confident that drones are going to be a match for Phalanx or upgraded versions.

it's going to be low level, high speed anti ship missiles and lots of them.
 
You send a billion drones, dx canâ??t see that overpowering phalanx?

Not really. The rate of consumption of phalanx's ammunition is probably proportional to the speed pf its target.

anyways, I assume the navy aren't idiots and have already started researching and implementing new defenses. They don't seem the type to "ah well nevertheless"
 
The US has been slow to adapt to "cheap" warfare against them (Vietnam Tiger Traps, IED's in Iraq/Afganistan for example), but they do adjust.

They may take some decent sized hits, but they will adjust and counter as things evolve.
 
Deeper analysis of what was covered on the FP thread.

Money shot:

Russian forces are exploiting the sanctuary that US policy still protects to support Russian combat operations in northern Kharkiv Oblast and elsewhere in Ukraine. The Russian Northern Grouping of Forces is leveraging the sanctuary to protect Russian brigade command posts and other assets outside of the range of HIMARS equipped with GMLRS north of Kharkiv Oblast. The Associated Press quoted a Ukrainian artillery commander on June 22 who stated that Ukrainian forces could target Russian brigade command points and the entire Russian Northern Grouping of Forces if the US approved Ukraine's use of ATACMS to strike Russian territory but currently cannot because Russia has deployed such command and control elements in an area 100 to 150 kilometers away from the front line. US policy still prohibits Ukraine from using ATACMS anywhere in Russia.

Russian air defenses will reduce the effectiveness of Ukrainian F-16s if the US does not allow Ukrainian forces to use ATACMS to destroy Russian air defense systems in Russian territory. Ukrainian F-16 pilots will have to operate in a dangerous air space if US policy continues to provide a sanctuary in Russia that protects Russian forces from ATACMS. Russian air defenses will be able to cover up to 64 percent of Ukraine’s air space if Russia deploys S-400 air defense launchers within Russia outside of the range of HIMARS armed with GMLRS rockets. Such Russian air defense deployments would complicate Ukraine's ability to use manned fixed-wing airpower closer to frontline areas or against areas from which Russian aircraft, drone, and missile threats emanate. ISW continues to assess that Ukrainian forces may be able to combine fixed-wing airpower in support of ground operations if the Ukrainian military receives a sufficient number of fighter jets if Western partners train enough skilled pilots, and if Ukraine succeeds in degrading Russian air defense capabilities.
 
Apparently Serbia has been contracted to supply ammo for Ukraine and their munitions factories recently added a third shift. It seems euros are worth a lot more than rubles these days. :p
 
This greatly surprises me.

Same. Like I said though, I think money talks, and Belgrade has been talking out of both sides of its mouth since the war began. They condemned Russia's invasion, but then refused to follow the West in sanctioning Moscow. So they've cashed in on continuing to funnel money for the Kremlin and its partners. However they have also served as a refuge for Russians who've fled Putin's war and found an unfriendly welcome elsewhere (Georgia is particularly wary/tired of them). Now there's an opportunity for Serbia to legitimately gobble up their share of far more valuable Western currency. So I can definitely see the desire to stay neutral-ish, leaving the door open to both legitimate and grey/black market transactions, and basically play at being a mobbed up version of Switzerland for sanctioned oligarchs.

Think of it as part of the legacy of Tito and the Non-Aligned Movement.
 
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