Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
He may be up against it but at least he has Schenectady to offer his recruits.
He may be up against it but at least he has Schenectady to offer his recruits.
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RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
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SlyFoxMan7
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Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Plus he has the recruiting edge against RPI because Union has girls.
He may be up against it but at least he has Schenectady to offer his recruits.
Plus he has the recruiting edge against RPI because Union has girls.
GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Playing time is definitely a key thing to be able to offer, although that argument generally comes in when competing against the big boys at Minnesota, BC, or Michigan.
Playing time is definitely a key thing to be able to offer, although that argument generally comes in when competing against the big boys at Minnesota, BC, or Michigan.
Wicked Slappaahs
I miss Tie Domi
Wicked Slappaahs
I miss Tie Domi
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
...and dorm rooms with bullet proof glass.
He may be up against it but at least he has Schenectady to offer his recruits.
...and dorm rooms with bullet proof glass.
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
No one's talking about recruiting between Union and RPI - we're talking about between Union and Harvard.
I bet I know which Calvin Klein fragrance you prefer.
No one's talking about recruiting between Union and RPI - we're talking about between Union and Harvard.
I bet I know which Calvin Klein fragrance you prefer.
OsecnUC
New member
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Playing time is a big bargaining chip with him, but not the only thing. The players that end up at U really want to play for Leaman. When all is said and done, money for scholarships does talk for some but for those in a position to be able to choose a program that is not offering $, such as the Ivies and U, it really comes down to the school, the coach, and as mentioned, playing time. Leaman currently has, and recently has had, players that could have easily been playing for an IVY team, but they went to U instead. These boys made this decision based on Leaman's sales pitch and the fact that he, Leaman, was really interested in seeing the boys meet their potential. Many of the other coaches go out there and almost act as if they are doing the boys a favor by bringing them into the program. As a young player, I sure would want to end up at a place where I knew I was wanted. Even if they're not being wooed with playing time, if the coach wants them and is looking out for the player's best interest, that is going to translate to a good NCAA career with playing time and exposure to the possibility of a future playing hockey. We now see players like Fox, Caffaro, Milnamow, and others moving on to the next step of their careers playing in the AHL and ECHL. This is a result of the networking and connections that Leaman brings to the table. His reputation is growing, like his program, and he is now recognized as having a stable of quality players who have talent and are not affraid of work.
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
IMO the "playing time" pitch isn't applicable at Union anymore, as there is much more depth on the team. Recent recruits like Bodie, Yanovitch and White were top prospects coming out of juniors and struggled to get ice time right away. Leaman & co. were definitely using that pitch early on in their recruiting, but now I would say are letting the success of the program speak for itself.
IMO the "playing time" pitch isn't applicable at Union anymore, as there is much more depth on the team. Recent recruits like Bodie, Yanovitch and White were top prospects coming out of juniors and struggled to get ice time right away. Leaman & co. were definitely using that pitch early on in their recruiting, but now I would say are letting the success of the program speak for itself.
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Agree with all the recent posts and also want to point out to hockeymascot that I never insinuated that finding players that fit the academic, athletic and financial profile was easy for Union or any other school. The real success stories in the recruiting world come from a staff that are able to identify the players that fit their vision on how to move the program forward. many a program has feel by the wayside by either recruiting players that can't help you or recruiting players you'll never get.
There's also a little luck involved and many coach will tell you that they had players land in their laps that they never thought they could recruit or players they were not that interested in that turned out to be huge differences makers in their programs.
Great to see that Union has figured out a recruiting mentality that continues to elevate their program, but don't think for a second that if they relax their efforts it will disappear faster than it bore fruit.
Agree with all the recent posts and also want to point out to hockeymascot that I never insinuated that finding players that fit the academic, athletic and financial profile was easy for Union or any other school. The real success stories in the recruiting world come from a staff that are able to identify the players that fit their vision on how to move the program forward. many a program has feel by the wayside by either recruiting players that can't help you or recruiting players you'll never get.
There's also a little luck involved and many coach will tell you that they had players land in their laps that they never thought they could recruit or players they were not that interested in that turned out to be huge differences makers in their programs.
Great to see that Union has figured out a recruiting mentality that continues to elevate their program, but don't think for a second that if they relax their efforts it will disappear faster than it bore fruit.
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Sir, I am no RPI fan, but I respectfully disagree with your statement based on the following evidence:
The photo above was taken at the Houston Field House during the 2nd intermission in the RPI vs. UMass game on October 21, 2008. These women were all RPI students. Therefore, RPI does indeed have multiple hot women. And, as they are fond of saying at RPI, Q.E.D.
(Obviously, I'll be wearing a green Dartmouth jersey for this Friday and Saturday games.)
Sir, I am no RPI fan, but I respectfully disagree with your statement based on the following evidence:
The photo above was taken at the Houston Field House during the 2nd intermission in the RPI vs. UMass game on October 21, 2008. These women were all RPI students. Therefore, RPI does indeed have multiple hot women. And, as they are fond of saying at RPI, Q.E.D.
(Obviously, I'll be wearing a green Dartmouth jersey for this Friday and Saturday games.)
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GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Whoa, the infamous Andrei Uryadov Fan Club.
Whoa, the infamous Andrei Uryadov Fan Club.
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
We never had anything like this when I was at RPI
Sir, I am no RPI fan, but I respectfully disagree with your statement based on the following evidence:
The photo above was taken at the Houston Field House during the 2nd intermission in the RPI vs. UMass game on October 21, 2008. These women were all RPI students. Therefore, RPI does indeed have multiple hot women. And, as they are fond of saying at RPI, Q.E.D.
(Obviously, I'll be wearing a green Dartmouth jersey for this Friday and Saturday games.)
We never had anything like this when I was at RPI
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Fun following a thread that takes all kinds of twists and turns and ends up in places never imagined by the original poster.
thinking I would add to the twists from a post Union07 said yesterday "Coach Leaman is a great coach that has the respect of his players and the Union Community".
Not sure you can make that comment on a lot of fronts. I'll attack it from the back end first. Respect of the Union Community. What you really mean is that the recent success has been very exciting and by winning more than in the past we have more fans in the stands, more coverage in the media etc. Not to say this isn't a bad thing, but reality everyone loves to jump on the bandwagon of a winning team. That respect would try up quickly if those wins become loses.
#2 Coach Leaman has the respect of his players. That may or may not be true. You or I don't know that and winning again clouds the reality of your viewpoint. He may indeed have great respect in the locker room, but to make that leap of faith is unfounded.
#3 Coach Leaman is a great coach. Maybe, but the test of great coaches is not a few good years. I would say he's done a great job of turning around the program and they are enjoying great success in the present. What you or I don't know is the impact of his assistant coaches when it comes to working with the team and surely on the recruiting end of things where assistants play a much larger role than the head coach. Trust me there have been many teams where the assistant coaches are more important factors in winning than the head coach.
I point out all the above not to take shots at Union or Coach Leaman, but to point out that comments on forums like this are much more the portrait of folks that really have no internal understanding how or what makes teams go. You can find numerous posts in this forum where fans were at one time claiming their coach was the second coming and a few years later wanting him burned at the stake.
Fun following a thread that takes all kinds of twists and turns and ends up in places never imagined by the original poster.
thinking I would add to the twists from a post Union07 said yesterday "Coach Leaman is a great coach that has the respect of his players and the Union Community".
Not sure you can make that comment on a lot of fronts. I'll attack it from the back end first. Respect of the Union Community. What you really mean is that the recent success has been very exciting and by winning more than in the past we have more fans in the stands, more coverage in the media etc. Not to say this isn't a bad thing, but reality everyone loves to jump on the bandwagon of a winning team. That respect would try up quickly if those wins become loses.
#2 Coach Leaman has the respect of his players. That may or may not be true. You or I don't know that and winning again clouds the reality of your viewpoint. He may indeed have great respect in the locker room, but to make that leap of faith is unfounded.
#3 Coach Leaman is a great coach. Maybe, but the test of great coaches is not a few good years. I would say he's done a great job of turning around the program and they are enjoying great success in the present. What you or I don't know is the impact of his assistant coaches when it comes to working with the team and surely on the recruiting end of things where assistants play a much larger role than the head coach. Trust me there have been many teams where the assistant coaches are more important factors in winning than the head coach.
I point out all the above not to take shots at Union or Coach Leaman, but to point out that comments on forums like this are much more the portrait of folks that really have no internal understanding how or what makes teams go. You can find numerous posts in this forum where fans were at one time claiming their coach was the second coming and a few years later wanting him burned at the stake.
engineerhockeyfan
PUCKMAN RULES!!!
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Of course, you are completely correct. But who cares?
We are all fans here and we use this forum to state our opinions and beliefs.
It gives us a chance to be part of the team we root for and express our ideas.
So why do you have to bring reality into it.
Please pick a team and root for it. You will find it very invigorating, win or lose, you get to have your say.
Of course, you are completely correct. But who cares?
We are all fans here and we use this forum to state our opinions and beliefs.
It gives us a chance to be part of the team we root for and express our ideas.
So why do you have to bring reality into it.
Please pick a team and root for it. You will find it very invigorating, win or lose, you get to have your say.
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
"He bends over and speaks from his rear."
"He bends over and speaks from his rear."
Wicked Slappaahs
I miss Tie Domi
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
Completely unrelated to anything here -- but as most folks have heard, the River Rats are leaving town after this season headed for Charlotte, NC...the same ownership group that owns the ECHL Checkers purchased the franchise from W. Robb.
Oddly enough, several outlets including WTEN, The Record and blogger grossmisconduct.com are reporting that HUGE automan Billy Fuschillo is in talks to buy the Bridgeport Sound Tigers, with the intention of moving them to Albany ! Wouldn't that be fun.
Completely unrelated to anything here -- but as most folks have heard, the River Rats are leaving town after this season headed for Charlotte, NC...the same ownership group that owns the ECHL Checkers purchased the franchise from W. Robb.
Oddly enough, several outlets including WTEN, The Record and blogger grossmisconduct.com are reporting that HUGE automan Billy Fuschillo is in talks to buy the Bridgeport Sound Tigers, with the intention of moving them to Albany ! Wouldn't that be fun.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI & Union @ Harvard & Dartmouth (2/12 & 2/13)
I suspect that you mean grossmisconducthockey.com.
Completely unrelated to anything here -- but as most folks have heard, the River Rats are leaving town after this season headed for Charlotte, NC...the same ownership group that owns the ECHL Checkers purchased the franchise from W. Robb.
Oddly enough, several outlets including WTEN, The Record and blogger grossmisconduct.com are reporting that HUGE automan Billy Fuschillo is in talks to buy the Bridgeport Sound Tigers, with the intention of moving them to Albany ! Wouldn't that be fun.
I suspect that you mean grossmisconducthockey.com.
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