Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
I have said it before-Tinordi will turn out to be a very pleasant surprise for us.
I have said it before-Tinordi will turn out to be a very pleasant surprise for us.
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RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
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Ralph Baer
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Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
I hope so, but I will have to see it. This year, he is a 20-year old playing in the AJHL. He's older than most of the league.
I hope so, but I will have to see it. This year, he is a 20-year old playing in the AJHL. He's older than most of the league.
Wicked Slappaahs
I miss Tie Domi
Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
At 6'1 190 he will be the "heavy" on whatever line Seth puts him on... I think he'll be a Justin Smith type player...energy + collisions
Ralph Baer
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He seems to have a better shot that Smith, and he isn't quite as big. Smith seems to be one of the few RPI players who may be taller than listed on the roster.
At 6'1 190 he will be the "heavy" on whatever line Seth puts him on... I think he'll be a Justin Smith type player...energy + collisions
He seems to have a better shot that Smith, and he isn't quite as big. Smith seems to be one of the few RPI players who may be taller than listed on the roster.
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Don't be...it's the 'Stockholm Syndrome'...
Don't be...it's the 'Stockholm Syndrome'...
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
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That's an interesting explanation.
BTW, "ou" should be "your".
Don't be...it's the 'Stockholm Syndrome'...
That's an interesting explanation.
BTW, "ou" should be "your".
Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
Here is something I've been pondering and I'd like as many of you to comment as possible:
I know there is an ebb and flow to teams as far as recruitment feeding success, feeding recruitment. In the ECAC, have any of you detected a 'pattern' to predict a team's upswing? Can you see the 'writing on the wall' for a downturn? So many of you have eaten, drank and slept (no particular order there
) this division for so long, I'd be interested in hearing how you know what's coming for the ECAC in general and RPI in particular. In a nutshell...can you give me an idea about whether RPI is truly on the 'cusp' of becoming a contender?
Here is something I've been pondering and I'd like as many of you to comment as possible:
I know there is an ebb and flow to teams as far as recruitment feeding success, feeding recruitment. In the ECAC, have any of you detected a 'pattern' to predict a team's upswing? Can you see the 'writing on the wall' for a downturn? So many of you have eaten, drank and slept (no particular order there
) this division for so long, I'd be interested in hearing how you know what's coming for the ECAC in general and RPI in particular. In a nutshell...can you give me an idea about whether RPI is truly on the 'cusp' of becoming a contender?Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
Oh...I thought that was French for something...you never know on this blog...I was going to look it up!
That's an interesting explanation.
BTW, "ou" should be "your".
Oh...I thought that was French for something...you never know on this blog...I was going to look it up!
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
I definitely think that RPI is on the verge of being a contender. They are just about there if you are speaking of the ECAC. They could even be favored next year if everything goes as planned. (No one leaves for the pros and JL shows up.)
Here is something I've been pondering and I'd like as many of you to comment as possible:
I know there is an ebb and flow to teams as far as recruitment feeding success, feeding recruitment. In the ECAC, have any of you detected a 'pattern' to predict a team's upswing? Can you see the 'writing on the wall' for a downturn? So many of you have eaten, drank and slept (no particular order there
I definitely think that RPI is on the verge of being a contender. They are just about there if you are speaking of the ECAC. They could even be favored next year if everything goes as planned. (No one leaves for the pros and JL shows up.)
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
You will never see me writing in French. I haven't studied it since my soph year in HS and have forgotten just about all of it.
You haven't been following these threads for that long, but every year after we get eliminated, I count down the days to the next season. Out first game in 2008-9 was in Canada vs. Vermont in a game set up by Jean Francois Gosselin, a former RPI hockey palyer, and at that time a member of the Quebec parliament. I had to ask to get my countdown babble translated.
Today is 8 March 2008. There are 217 days until RPI's next game.
Aujourd'hui, c'est le 8 mars 2008. Il y a 217 jours jusqu'au jeu prochain de RPI.
I do speak passable German.
Oh...I thought that was French for something...you never know on this blog...I was going to look it up!
You will never see me writing in French. I haven't studied it since my soph year in HS and have forgotten just about all of it.
You haven't been following these threads for that long, but every year after we get eliminated, I count down the days to the next season. Out first game in 2008-9 was in Canada vs. Vermont in a game set up by Jean Francois Gosselin, a former RPI hockey palyer, and at that time a member of the Quebec parliament. I had to ask to get my countdown babble translated.
Today is 8 March 2008. There are 217 days until RPI's next game.
Aujourd'hui, c'est le 8 mars 2008. Il y a 217 jours jusqu'au jeu prochain de RPI.
I do speak passable German.
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Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
Having followed this team for 46+ years and having seen all the ups and downs during that stretch-I have to agree with RB. We are definitely on the upswing and I would be very disappointed if next year we are not a national contender and one of the favorites in the ECAC.
Here is something I've been pondering and I'd like as many of you to comment as possible:
I know there is an ebb and flow to teams as far as recruitment feeding success, feeding recruitment. In the ECAC, have any of you detected a 'pattern' to predict a team's upswing? Can you see the 'writing on the wall' for a downturn? So many of you have eaten, drank and slept (no particular order there
Having followed this team for 46+ years and having seen all the ups and downs during that stretch-I have to agree with RB. We are definitely on the upswing and I would be very disappointed if next year we are not a national contender and one of the favorites in the ECAC.
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It's on topics like this that I am overwhelmed at the recruitment task a coaching staff must conduct to put the right peg in the right hole...every year, year in and year out...? It cannot be a scientific undertaking; there is art in this, no?
It's on topics like this that I am overwhelmed at the recruitment task a coaching staff must conduct to put the right peg in the right hole...every year, year in and year out...? It cannot be a scientific undertaking; there is art in this, no?
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I think an important part of recruiting is that success breeds success. A couple real good recruit classes (like this year and next) can pave the way for several more after that. For many years RPI just fell out of the loop. There was really very little chance during those years that top prospects would want to come to Troy. This has definitely changed under SA. We had great success recruiting in the early 60's and again in the early to mid 80's with some moderate success in the mid to late 90's(although some of that decade was either due to local grown talent like Murley and Cavosie or a brother following his older brother to the Tute like Tapper). It has taken SA a few years to make his mark but I get the feeling he can sell ice to Eskimos and will lead this program upward from here.
I think an important part of recruiting is that success breeds success. A couple real good recruit classes (like this year and next) can pave the way for several more after that. For many years RPI just fell out of the loop. There was really very little chance during those years that top prospects would want to come to Troy. This has definitely changed under SA. We had great success recruiting in the early 60's and again in the early to mid 80's with some moderate success in the mid to late 90's(although some of that decade was either due to local grown talent like Murley and Cavosie or a brother following his older brother to the Tute like Tapper). It has taken SA a few years to make his mark but I get the feeling he can sell ice to Eskimos and will lead this program upward from here.
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As far as RPI is concerned, I think we are a contender right now. If we could start the season over with the boys playing the way they are now I would expect us to finish 1st or 2nd and make the NCAAS. However, our early season bumps and growing pains might limit what we can accomplish this year. If we can play well the rest of the year and win the ECAC's then we are arriving a year sooner than I expected.
Yes I admit that it is hard to type with these rose colored glasses on.
Not quite sure how to define detecting the pattern. I think it is like the pornography definition - you know it when you see it.Here is something I've been pondering and I'd like as many of you to comment as possible:
I know there is an ebb and flow to teams as far as recruitment feeding success, feeding recruitment. In the ECAC, have any of you detected a 'pattern' to predict a team's upswing? Can you see the 'writing on the wall' for a downturn? So many of you have eaten, drank and slept (no particular order there
As far as RPI is concerned, I think we are a contender right now. If we could start the season over with the boys playing the way they are now I would expect us to finish 1st or 2nd and make the NCAAS. However, our early season bumps and growing pains might limit what we can accomplish this year. If we can play well the rest of the year and win the ECAC's then we are arriving a year sooner than I expected.
Yes I admit that it is hard to type with these rose colored glasses on.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
I agree with DrD's "success breads success". Ther has to be some art in it also since one does not always get all of the exact players that you want, and some don't turn out as you expect.
I agree with DrD's "success breads success". Ther has to be some art in it also since one does not always get all of the exact players that you want, and some don't turn out as you expect.
GreatLakerMohawk
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Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
RPI is on the rise for sure. He's getting the recruits to make things happen and he's got the guys he wants in there in full now. It's tough to tell with other teams though. For instance, Harvard has killer recruiting classes yet the team wildly underachieves. Cornell gets solid recruits and has a very strict system it plays, finding pieces to succeed in that helps narrow down the approach they take. Other teams you could see the change coming but whether it's sustained success is trickier.
Folks saw Princeton on the way up a couple years ago, same with Yale last year (although Allain will have his hands full once Little and Arcobello are gone). It's tougher to predict in this conference but you can tell which teams are getting their act together. Times are changing, for the most part, in the ECAC.
Here is something I've been pondering and I'd like as many of you to comment as possible:
I know there is an ebb and flow to teams as far as recruitment feeding success, feeding recruitment. In the ECAC, have any of you detected a 'pattern' to predict a team's upswing? Can you see the 'writing on the wall' for a downturn? So many of you have eaten, drank and slept (no particular order there
RPI is on the rise for sure. He's getting the recruits to make things happen and he's got the guys he wants in there in full now. It's tough to tell with other teams though. For instance, Harvard has killer recruiting classes yet the team wildly underachieves. Cornell gets solid recruits and has a very strict system it plays, finding pieces to succeed in that helps narrow down the approach they take. Other teams you could see the change coming but whether it's sustained success is trickier.
Folks saw Princeton on the way up a couple years ago, same with Yale last year (although Allain will have his hands full once Little and Arcobello are gone). It's tougher to predict in this conference but you can tell which teams are getting their act together. Times are changing, for the most part, in the ECAC.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Recruiting II: Knowlton's Rangers (enlistments open)
I agree. We could surprise a few teams the second time around.
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We also seem to be healthier now-fingers crossed about Kerins-we had lost some significant players for variable amounts of time earlier. A healthy Bergin and D'Amigo have made this a more formidable team.
We also seem to be healthier now-fingers crossed about Kerins-we had lost some significant players for variable amounts of time earlier. A healthy Bergin and D'Amigo have made this a more formidable team.
Wicked Slappaahs
I miss Tie Domi
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I agree with the others, there is no question we are on upward path out of what was a pretty flat and depressing bottom of the curve. There were several years where I would dread coming to the rink, having been put through the wringer the night before. There was little optimism in the stands -- or on the ice for that matter. Stagnant is the term I would use to describe it.
I know early on, I sat up and took notice when Seth started getting USNDTP kids like Grimshaw and the Tinordis to visit. We didn't land Grimshaw (but we were late in the game with him and he still came for a visit) and we got one of the Tinordi's, but you could see that the bar had clearly been raised. Then along came this year's forwards! I had a friend in the know tell me at the time that Seth was chasing 4 forwards including two "blue chippers". Seth hoped to get one, maybe two of 4...but he ended up getting all 4. That is the definition of momentum, IMO.
Appert and Monty have a knack for identifying talent and getting many of these kids to commit. I don't think we can thank Monty enough for the work he has done in recruting this batch of forwards. I know D'Amigo mentioned Monty as having started the conversation with Jerry very early on when he was still skating Jrs. in Binghamton. That foundation Monty laid survived all of the attention Jerry rec'd when he went into the USNDTP and the attention he got from big time D1 programs and MJ's.
I agree with the others, there is no question we are on upward path out of what was a pretty flat and depressing bottom of the curve. There were several years where I would dread coming to the rink, having been put through the wringer the night before. There was little optimism in the stands -- or on the ice for that matter. Stagnant is the term I would use to describe it.
I know early on, I sat up and took notice when Seth started getting USNDTP kids like Grimshaw and the Tinordis to visit. We didn't land Grimshaw (but we were late in the game with him and he still came for a visit) and we got one of the Tinordi's, but you could see that the bar had clearly been raised. Then along came this year's forwards! I had a friend in the know tell me at the time that Seth was chasing 4 forwards including two "blue chippers". Seth hoped to get one, maybe two of 4...but he ended up getting all 4. That is the definition of momentum, IMO.
Appert and Monty have a knack for identifying talent and getting many of these kids to commit. I don't think we can thank Monty enough for the work he has done in recruting this batch of forwards. I know D'Amigo mentioned Monty as having started the conversation with Jerry very early on when he was still skating Jrs. in Binghamton. That foundation Monty laid survived all of the attention Jerry rec'd when he went into the USNDTP and the attention he got from big time D1 programs and MJ's.
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