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RPI Off-Season Thread 2012 Part II: (Insert Title Here)

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My thoughts on Lake Placid. This Tournamet should be held in Albany. Lake Placid although a scenic and great place to visit its not a good spot for a championship tournamet it would be like Hockey East holding their championship in Caribou Maine nice place to visit not a place for a Tournamet. Hotels are limited and expensive and there is no easy way to get there. The Olympic facility for lack of a better term is a "Dump" It has not weathered the years of budget cuts very well. I do appreciate the history of the building in a nostalgic way not as a top notch facility. The fact that it is a "Big Sheet" is a minus in my opinion to the best of my knowlege Dartmouth is the only surface of that kind in our league and evereyone plays on it once a year. The ECACHL seems to think Albany is a perfect place to house the league offices but some how not good enough for the tournamet go figure ! as far as I can tell the argument is attendence and its too big. Well to that I say get to work hire a sports marketing company or hire a staffer w/sports marketing experience give the freakin tickets away if thats what you have do to fill the building if it cost money so be it we need to build a fan base for the tournmet. This is a buisness and it cost money to make money long term. College Hockey is in a state flux at this point and only the strong and proactive will survive. The ECACHL needs to stop sitting back and hopeing it comes to them and go out and get it. Lake Placid is a very quaint boutique setting for this tournamet but I do not believe in our long tem interest. In fact if you look at the most recent attempt at making Placid a go the Festivus or what ever they called it seemed to me to be a failure. Im not an engineer but comon sense tells you that failed experiments are not a building block to future success. Just my 2 cents.

And a good 2¢ it is. Fully agree. Albany being more central makes it a better choice not to mention the fact that the weather in LP in March can wreck havoc with travel plans. I love Placid-we live only 45 minutes a way at times-but this tournament needs to draw from 12 schools and Albany just makes more sense.
 
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And a good 2¢ it is. Fully agree. Albany being more central makes it a better choice not to mention the fact that the weather in LP in March can wreck havoc with travel plans. I love Placid-we live only 45 minutes a way at times-but this tournament needs to draw from 12 schools and Albany just makes more sense.

Some ECAC schools have trouble drawing fans to its home rink and you want them to drive to Albany if its team is not playing? Do you think this is the WCHA where its fans would travel to a bantam game on a tuesday between Minot and Eveleth if they thought a player on one of those teams may sign with UND or UM someday. :)
 
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Hey Turk, did you put together your list of questions for our great coach for the dinner on Monday?
 
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Do you think this is the WCHA where its fans would travel to a bantam game on a tuesday between Minot and Eveleth if they thought a player on one of those teams may sign with UND or UM someday. :)

or to Cornwall to scout JL?
 
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You must be getting much up in years.;)

I have to plead guilty as charged. ;)

I used to drive the GSP when I lived in the Philadelphia area and wanted to go to the Capital District. I moved to central Pennsylvania almost 18 years ago and haven't had occasion to use the GSP since.
 
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The US defeated Slovakia 6-0 in an exhibition game prior to the Ivan Hlinka tourney. There is no boxscore here yet. There are videos of each goal here. No goals for Melanson. He's #18 in blue. Assists?
 
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The US defeated Slovakia 6-0 in an exhibition game prior to the Ivan Hlinka tourney. There is no boxscore here yet. There are videos of each goal here. No goals for Melanson. He's #18 in blue. Assists?
after watching the goal highlights it looks like the only time I saw 18 on the ice was before the 5th goal...looked like a delayed penalty on Slovakia & #18 made a nice play to keep the puck alive for the US team before he went off on a change & the US scored.........after watcging it again I don't think it was a delayed penalty but it was a nice keep regardless by Melanson. Good find Ralph.
 
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or to Cornwall to scout JL?

Never made it that far, came upon the casino in Hogansburg and woke up the next morning next to the St. Lawerence River owning a 1980 Buick and a nasty hangover. :)
 
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The US defeated Slovakia 6-0 in an exhibition game prior to the Ivan Hlinka tourney. There is no boxscore here yet. There are videos of each goal here. No goals for Melanson. He's #18 in blue. Assists?
this was taken off the Slovakian site you linked to Ralph.....Slovakia - USA 0:6 (0:1, 0:2, 0:3)
Goals: 4 Weiss (Lodge, Moore), 26 Bailey (Lettieri, DeAngelo) PP, 40 Kuhlman, 41 Malone (Erne), 48 Kuhlman SH, 50 Lodge (Moore, Vannelli) PP
Exclusions (2 min.): 3-3. Playoffs: 0:2. SHG: 0:1. Shots on goal: 25:40 (11:12, 10:17, 4:11). Viewers: 361st
 
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Haven't seen this here yet (but havent been reading closley as i was away) but found this clip with a pre practice coaches meeting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agmXOWa6f1E

judging by the way Seth talks in the other short clips that can be found following the link in the video description this was filmed early last year.
 
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Today is 12 August 2012. There are 55 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 6 October for the start of next season.

That is the day that an exhibition game is supposedly scheduled.
 
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this was taken off the Slovakian site you linked to Ralph.....Slovakia - USA 0:6 (0:1, 0:2, 0:3)
Goals: 4 Weiss (Lodge, Moore), 26 Bailey (Lettieri, DeAngelo) PP, 40 Kuhlman, 41 Malone (Erne), 48 Kuhlman SH, 50 Lodge (Moore, Vannelli) PP
Exclusions (2 min.): 3-3. Playoffs: 0:2. SHG: 0:1. Shots on goal: 25:40 (11:12, 10:17, 4:11). Viewers: 361st

I figured that someone here could read Slovak. :)

It was also my thought that Melanson was only on the 5th goal video but I had trouble identifying everyone. Although no giant, He doesn't look as slight of build as advertised.
 
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My thoughts on Lake Placid. This Tournamet should be held in Albany. Lake Placid although a scenic and great place to visit its not a good spot for a championship tournamet it would be like Hockey East holding their championship in Caribou Maine nice place to visit not a place for a Tournamet. Hotels are limited and expensive and there is no easy way to get there. The Olympic facility for lack of a better term is a "Dump" It has not weathered the years of budget cuts very well. I do appreciate the history of the building in a nostalgic way not as a top notch facility. The fact that it is a "Big Sheet" is a minus in my opinion to the best of my knowlege Dartmouth is the only surface of that kind in our league and evereyone plays on it once a year. The ECACHL seems to think Albany is a perfect place to house the league offices but some how not good enough for the tournamet go figure ! as far as I can tell the argument is attendence and its too big. Well to that I say get to work hire a sports marketing company or hire a staffer w/sports marketing experience give the freakin tickets away if thats what you have do to fill the building if it cost money so be it we need to build a fan base for the tournmet. This is a buisness and it cost money to make money long term. College Hockey is in a state flux at this point and only the strong and proactive will survive. The ECACHL needs to stop sitting back and hopeing it comes to them and go out and get it. Lake Placid is a very quaint boutique setting for this tournamet but I do not believe in our long tem interest. In fact if you look at the most recent attempt at making Placid a go the Festivus or what ever they called it seemed to me to be a failure. Im not an engineer but comon sense tells you that failed experiments are not a building block to future success. Just my 2 cents.
Respectfully disagree. Weather argument made elsewhere here is a non-starter. You're just as likely to hit a March noreaster on the Mass Pike or in ALB, as you are in LP. NY'ers and new Englanders are a hardy bunch -- the potential a little frozen March crud hardly slows them down, and if you have to deal with it, their aren't many more beautiful places to do so than L. Placid. The fan bases that best support the ECAC are from Cap Dist/Central/ Northern NY. These folks aren't scared of weather.

The tourney in Lake Placid is an event. The shopkeepers and hoteliers know why you are there and are happy to see you. Contrast that to ALB where no one outside of the TUC knows what the ECACHL is, much less that an event is going on. Every article written has a Lake Placid, NY byline - that doesn't suck, from a PR perspective. But for me, the bottom line is that the Olympic Center knows how to run a hockey tourney. The ice is ALWAYS hard and fast (do I need to mention the cloudy, slushy ice that plagues the TUC for much of the hockey season?) In LP, the players /coaches /officials are treated very well by a building staff that KNOWS hockey. They have the new convention center open and that should mean a cost savings for the league (league dinner, team receptions,etc.) as well as better fan experience.

In Albany, no one outside of the building knows what the ECACHL is, much less that the tourney is going on. I worked in the neighborhood near the TUC for 10+ years and the ECACHL could not be more invisible if they tried. Zero presence in the City/Region. Its a mail drop and nothing more.

Kudos to the committee and league for stopping the bleeding caused by the AC debacle.
 
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I figured that someone here could read Slovak. :)

It was also my thought that Melanson was only on the 5th goal video but I had trouble identifying everyone. Although no giant, He doesn't look as slight of build as advertised.

He has added a little bulk each year since we first saw him-but he still could stand to add a few more pounds.:)
 
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Some ECAC schools have trouble drawing fans to its home rink and you want them to drive to Albany if its team is not playing? Do you think this is the WCHA where its fans would travel to a bantam game on a tuesday between Minot and Eveleth if they thought a player on one of those teams may sign with UND or UM someday. :)

There are indeed some ECAC schools that just do not draw-and their fans will not go anywhere. But for some, Albany is a distance to drive and LP is just considered up in the middle of nowhere. Don't get me wrong-personally I love driving there. But for some-the distance is a major consideration.
 
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Respectfully disagree. Weather argument made elsewhere here is a non-starter. You're just as likely to hit a March noreaster on the Mass Pike or in ALB, as you are in LP. NY'ers and new Englanders are a hardy bunch -- the potential a little frozen March crud hardly slows them down, and if you have to deal with it, their aren't many more beautiful places to do so than L. Placid. The fan bases that best support the ECAC are from Cap Dist/Central/ Northern NY. These folks aren't scared of weather.

The tourney in Lake Placid is an event. The shopkeepers and hoteliers know why you are there and are happy to see you. Contrast that to ALB where no one outside of the TUC knows what the ECACHL is, much less that an event is going on. Every article written has a Lake Placid, NY byline - that doesn't suck, from a PR perspective. But for me, the bottom line is that the Olympic Center knows how to run a hockey tourney. The ice is ALWAYS hard and fast (do I need to mention the cloudy, slushy ice that plagues the TUC for much of the hockey season?) In LP, the players /coaches /officials are treated very well by a building staff that KNOWS hockey. They have the new convention center open and that should mean a cost savings for the league (league dinner, team receptions,etc.) as well as better fan experience.

In Albany, no one outside of the building knows what the ECACHL is, much less that the tourney is going on. I worked in the neighborhood near the TUC for 10+ years and the ECACHL could not be more invisible if they tried. Zero presence in the City/Region. Its a mail drop and nothing more.

Kudos to the committee and league for stopping the bleeding caused by the AC debacle.

Heck, there are people INSIDE the building that have no idea what the ECACHL is. :eek:
 
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Haven't seen this here yet (but havent been reading closley as i was away) but found this clip with a pre practice coaches meeting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agmXOWa6f1E

judging by the way Seth talks in the other short clips that can be found following the link in the video description this was filmed early last year.

http://www.championshipproductions...._HD-04128.html?mv_source=youtube#.UCfTYBq3UYQ

The DVD's are $120, and looks like a 4-CD set.
 
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