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RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part II: You Better Starting Posting the Engineer Way

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FWIW, Pheonix Copley, the goalie whom Kasdorf played behind in the latter part of last season in Des Moines, had two shutouts in MTU's victory in the GLI.
 
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ServinisScores said:
Jasma, I'm pretty sure Moran and the Record ran daily articles stoking the fire. Did Matt Graves do the same in the TU - I can't remember.

As far as Ducatte having an axe to grind against Mike, that is laughable. Ducatte did the heavy lifting to get scholarships established, let the marginal students/recruits through admissions, both at Addesa's behest. Pretty sure they were together at the 25th reunion.
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You are 100% correct. As a matter of fact, Ducatte had originally recommended to Wilcox that Mike get suspended, however, Wilcox was fueling the students to rally and the result was inevitable.
 
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DrDemento said:
....When i had my shoulder done all they wanted to do was rush me for physical therapy. That's fine if you need to be in a hurry to get back into work or a sport. I had the luxury of allowing things to heal a bit and told them to just lessen the discomfort and let me slowly work the shoulder back into shape. As far as those other recommendations-well, let's just say it part of the art of medicine.;)
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Doc: I completely agree about pain. Unfortunately, the rampant misuse and frankly, rampant over prescribing of modern pain killers has led to a tidal wave of addiction and the crime that goes along with it. (I blame SOME of this on our namby-pamby society where everyone needs a trophy and people demand meds from their docs for minor injuries they should simply get through with Advil

As for recovery --i'm no MD but have endured mutliple procedures on both of my knees in the last five years.
Isnt the entire revolution modern surgery based on the idea of getting people moving following surgery is the best thing to prevent a variety of complications, including limiting atrophy and the lessening of range of motion? The idea being, the less down time there is, the less chance of uneccesary things happening? Again, I dont pretend to practice medicine, but I 've been thru it on the patient side and I know many who do.... I lived in Vail for awhile and have some clsoe friends who work at the Stedman-Hawkins clinic. (For those who may not know - these guys pioneered many of the now established arthroscopy techniques for reconstructing the knee and other joints...as well as the concept of "active" recovery for patients.)

Just my two cents, which in today's economy means it isn't worth the metal they are stamped out of " ! And yes, this post has nothing to do with the thread, but deal with it Ralph ! You're the one posting about MTU goalies....:D:p
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Just my two cents, which in today's economy means it isn't worth the metal they are stamped out of " ! And yes, this post has nothing to do with the thread, but deal with it Ralph ! You're the one posting about MTU goalies....:D:p
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:D :D
It was really meant to show that Kasdorf's lack of ice time late last season was not due to his talent level as much as it was due to Kopley's.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
:D :D
It was really meant to show that Kasdorf's lack of ice time late last season was not due to his talent level as much as it was due to Kopley's.
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doesn't explain Kopely's 4.something GAA before those 2 games compared to Kazzy's 1.63 though :D
 
sk8tronthepond said:
You are 100% correct. As a matter of fact, Ducatte had originally recommended to Wilcox that Mike get suspended, however, Wilcox was fueling the students to rally and the result was inevitable.
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That sounds right all around.
The T-U sports editor at the time sensed an opportunity to cash in on a juicy story and took the reins from the beat writer - Croce I think - and fanned the flames more than the Record. The beat guy at the Record then was a no-talent flake.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Yeah, I read that, and I thought about all the other times a team official said that an injury was day to day and it was weeks before we saw the player back in action.
Just a long time sports fan being sceptical, sorry.
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I believe I saw a sling after the game on Friday. Granted, I remember in the playoffs a few years ago seeing guys on crutches and then promptly playing the last night. I wouldn't be surprised if they rest him at least for today's game.
 
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Lines:
Lee-JL-Haggerty
Higgs-McGowan-Neal
Zalewski-Miller-Bubela
OGRady-Rogic-Burgdorfer
Leonard-Bailen
Lebeef-Bradley
Curadi-Dolan
Merriam
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Doc: I completely agree about pain. Unfortunately, the rampant misuse and frankly, rampant over prescribing of modern pain killers has led to a tidal wave of addiction and the crime that goes along with it. (I blame SOME of this on our namby-pamby society where everyone needs a trophy and people demand meds from their docs for minor injuries they should simply get through with Advil

As for recovery --i'm no MD but have endured mutliple procedures on both of my knees in the last five years.
Isnt the entire revolution modern surgery based on the idea of getting people moving following surgery is the best thing to prevent a variety of complications, including limiting atrophy and the lessening of range of motion? The idea being, the less down time there is, the less chance of uneccesary things happening? Again, I dont pretend to practice medicine, but I 've been thru it on the patient side and I know many who do.... I lived in Vail for awhile and have some clsoe friends who work at the Stedman-Hawkins clinic. (For those who may not know - these guys pioneered many of the now established arthroscopy techniques for reconstructing the knee and other joints...as well as the concept of "active" recovery for patients.)

Just my two cents, which in today's economy means it isn't worth the metal they are stamped out of " ! And yes, this post has nothing to do with the thread, but deal with it Ralph ! You're the one posting about MTU goalies....:D:p
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Wicked-You are pretty much right on about getting patients moving. But this trend has (as with most things) gone way to far over the edge. For most people and most surgeries-there is no rush. Except in the insurance companies minds and pocket books. They throw you out of the hospital as fast as the paper work can be done. Far too much emphasis is placed on motility exercises and more of a balance is needed. Sometimes rest with slow advancement of motility works without subjecting patients to as much discomfort. I agree that phyical therapy is very helpful but not when your body is telling you otherwise. Pain is not a sign of gain-it is a sign that you might be doing something wrong or certainly doing it too much or too fast.
As far as the addiction problem-the media has been harping on this for ages. We are talking about surgery and injury and post op treatment. All of which should be self limited. People recover from all of this and pain medication needs to be given until that recovery is seen. The real problem is as you mention-people being prescribed meds by the bucketful, not for post surgical situation-but because they come to the doctor with chronic complaints and demanding pain medication. The fault here lies on both sides-the patients for pursuing drugs under false pretenses and the doctors who churn out these prescriptions for profit in pill mills writing hundreds (perhaps thousands) of prescription per day. Morphine, codeine, hydrocodone and others are wonderful medicines when used properly. Unquestionably safer that many medicines that we do not think twice about taking every day. But as with many things in medicine they can be abused and often are. My office was always incredibly careful with narcotic prescribing. But i would never hesitate for a second in relieving pain(if i was convinced it was real) and especially in the short term.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Lines:
Lee-JL-Haggerty
Higgs-McGowan-Neal
Zalewski-Miller-Bubela
OGRady-Rogic-Burgdorfer
Leonard-Bailen
Lebeef-Bradley
Curadi-Dolan
Merriam
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Thanks WS-no big surprises here. Love that third line.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Lines:
Lee-JL-Haggerty
Higgs-McGowan-Neal
Zalewski-Miller-Bubela
OGRady-Rogic-Burgdorfer
Leonard-Bailen
Lebeef-Bradley
Curadi-Dolan
Merriam
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Is it just me, or does the offense look less potent with Neal on any other line than the top line?
Those guys were doing great and looked to be building some real chemistry when Neal went down. But I don't see the top line playing very well with Lee on the wing. JMO
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Is it just me, or does the offense look less potent with Neal on any other line than the top line?
Those guys were doing great and looked to be building some real chemistry when Neal went down. But I don't see the top line playing very well with Lee on the wing. JMO
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I'm with you on this. In the 2 @ SCSU, JL and CJ had 0 SOG. The chemistry just doesn't seem to be there.
 
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turk181 said:
I'm with you on this. In the 2 @ SCSU, JL and CJ had 0 SOG. The chemistry just doesn't seem to be there.
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The NHL line seemed to be producing less before they were broken up than early in the season, but I attributed it to oppoenets concentrating on them. I think that it is time to reunite them.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
The NHL line seemed to be producing less before they were broken up than early in the season, but I attributed it to oppoenets concentrating on them. I think that it is time to reunite them.
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That is my thinking also. Neal should be with those 2, they seem to be able to find each other out there better.
 
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