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RPI 2024 Off-Season: Was 2023 – 2024 Just a Bad Dream?

What they should be doing is have RPI and Union play NMU and MTU in hockey. One set of teams Fri, switch and the other teams Sat.
 
DrDemento said:
What in the world have we gotten ourselves into? A year before I came to RPI our football team (having lost about a hundred games in a row - or so it seemed) opened the season with Vermont. There had been some consideration at the time of scrapping the program but the decision was made to continue on. Vermont took pity upon us and only beat us 82-6! I think this might still stand as the worst opening game loss ever for an RPI squad. over the past many seasons I have become used to starting our season with, shall we say, a lower level of competition. usually winning the first couple OOC games while preparing for the league schedule and the always tough Union, Hobart, Ithaca games which usually determine whether we get to play in the NCAA tournament. This year it looks like we have thrown caution to the wind and starting with a possible nuclear explosion. Good luck to the boys - hoping we can give them a tough time in Troy!!!
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Not going to guarantee the info I heard at an RPI baseball game last spring is accurate but, due to the supposed financial distress of the entire Wisconsin State University system, round trip airfare plus ground transportation for a traveling party of about 70 is not even a consideration. Wild guess is $30,000 to $50,000 for round trip airfare alone without the buses needed to both get to and from a Wisconsin airport plus the buses needed to get around the Capital District.

So, according to what I heard, these guys are bussing the entire trip which is 16 to 17 hours each way not including stops. If so, that may take some of the starch out of these guys.

The 82-6 thrashing was the 1962 opener which is the year before I first went. In six of the seven 1962 outings the Engineers gave up 40 or more points. The only exception was giving up only 32 against Norwich.

Years or dates in the first half of the 60's had little relevance to RPI Football as the results were always the same. Before my first game in 1963, the most recent win was in 1959 against Union. Finally, there was another win against Middlebury in the last home game of my third season in 1965 which I was at. Not to fear, they lost their last two 1965 games which were both on the road rather handily. Back then, good thing WRPI coverage of road games was a still at least a decade and a half in the future. There was also a tie against Nichols in 1964 but I have no memory of it. Either it was no big deal or I just didn't go that day.

About the only memorable or noteworthy thing about the RPI Football program in those days was the weekly shout out they got after the national TV game on ABC's Prudential College Football Scoreboard for first assuming and then extending the nation's longest winless streak irregardless of division. As best as I recall, when RPI finally "squandered" the weekly "free advertising" late in the 1965 season, they were succeeded by Slippery Rock. Did not research what that is, where it is or even if it still exists.
 
Today is 21 August 2024. There are 45 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 5 October 2024 for the start of next season.
 
tony/troy said:
Not going to guarantee the info I heard at an RPI baseball game last spring is accurate but, due to the supposed financial distress of the entire Wisconsin State University system, round trip airfare plus ground transportation for a traveling party of about 70 is not even a consideration. Wild guess is $30,000 to $50,000 for round trip airfare alone without the buses needed to both get to and from a Wisconsin airport plus the buses needed to get around the Capital District.

So, according to what I heard, these guys are bussing the entire trip which is 16 to 17 hours each way not including stops. If so, that may take some of the starch out of these guys.

The 82-6 thrashing was the 1962 opener which is the year before I first went. In six of the seven 1962 outings the Engineers gave up 40 or more points. The only exception was giving up only 32 against Norwich.

Years or dates in the first half of the 60's had little relevance to RPI Football as the results were always the same. Before my first game in 1963, the most recent win was in 1959 against Union. Finally, there was another win against Middlebury in the last home game of my third season in 1965 which I was at. Not to fear, they lost their last two 1965 games which were both on the road rather handily. Back then, good thing WRPI coverage of road games was a still at least a decade and a half in the future. There was also a tie against Nichols in 1964 but I have no memory of it. Either it was no big deal or I just didn't go that day.

About the only memorable or noteworthy thing about the RPI Football program in those days was the weekly shout out they got after the national TV game on ABC's Prudential College Football Scoreboard for first assuming and then extending the nation's longest winless streak irregardless of division. As best as I recall, when RPI finally "squandered" the weekly "free advertising" late in the 1965 season, they were succeeded by Slippery Rock. Did not research what that is, where it is or even if it still exists.
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If I recall correctly, we were leading Nichols, and they came back to tie us. They had been a Junior College and that year had a junior class but no seniors. They beat us the following year.

Slippery rock is in PA. They still exist.
 
Ralph Baer said:
If I recall correctly, we were leading Nichols, and they came back to tie us. They had been a Junior College and that year had a junior class but no seniors. They beat us the following year.

Slippery rock is in PA. They still exist.
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We specifically scheduled Nichols to break our losing streak. They were as you mentioned a fresh new 4 year school without any seniors. We were leading 20-6 with only a couple minutes left to play. The fans were going wild and the '86 field was encircled as we were set to tear down the goal posts. Nichols scored on a broken play to make it 20-12 and went for a 2 point conversion which failed. The onside kick either failed or we fumbled it or on the first play after ( memory fails at this stage). Nichols tried a trick play of some sort which found a man wide open who ran in for the score. The 2 point conversion this time was successful and we ended with a 20-20 tie as time ran out.
Obviously a tie was disappointing but we did break the longest losing streak in college history so the fans tore down the goal posts anyway! In any case, the entire streak, now considered as a winless streak instead of a losing streak ended with a very unexpected win (by a couple touchdown margin) over Middlebury (I believe) leading to another goal post tear down celebration.
It was quite a different time having a very unsuccessful football team at a time when the hockey team was a top contender annually. The situation has unfortunately been quite reversed over the past 20+ years as we all know. But I remain hopeful.
 
DrDemento said:
We specifically scheduled Nichols to break our losing streak. They were as you mentioned a fresh new 4 year school without any seniors. We were leading 20-6 with only a couple minutes left to play. The fans were going wild and the '86 field was encircled as we were set to tear down the goal posts. Nichols scored on a broken play to make it 20-12 and went for a 2 point conversion which failed. The onside kick either failed or we fumbled it or on the first play after ( memory fails at this stage). Nichols tried a trick play of some sort which found a man wide open who ran in for the score. The 2 point conversion this time was successful and we ended with a 20-20 tie as time ran out.
Obviously a tie was disappointing but we did break the longest losing streak in college history so the fans tore down the goal posts anyway! In any case, the entire streak, now considered as a winless streak instead of a losing streak ended with a very unexpected win (by a couple touchdown margin) over Middlebury (I believe) leading to another goal post tear down celebration.
It was quite a different time having a very unsuccessful football team at a time when the hockey team was a top contender annually. The situation has unfortunately been quite reversed over the past 20+ years as we all know. But I remain hopeful.
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Yes, Middlebury.
 
Ralph Baer said:
Slippery Rock is in PA. They still exist.
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Slippery Rock football has only had modest success on the field but is fairly well known for humorous reasons.

One season in the 1930s, there was hot debate in the national press about whether Minnesota or Pitt, each with one loss, should be declared the national champions in football. One journalist, whose name seems to be lost to time, penned a satirical article arguing that Slippery Rock, with a record of 6 wins and 3 losses, should be declared the national champion under the logic of the transitive property (Slippery Rock beat Westminster, which beat West Virginia Wesleyan, which beat Duquesne, which beat Pitt, which beat Notre Dame, which beat Northwestern, which beat Minnesota).

The article was published widely, and Slippery Rock benefitted from the free press: a lot of big schools leaned into the satire and began announcing Slippery Rock scores over the PA system at games. This led to several interesting opportunities in later years, as Slippery Rock has played some games at the Rose Bowl and Michigan Stadium, the latter as recently as 2014.
 
DavidNardolillo said:
Slippery Rock football has only had modest success on the field but is fairly well known for humorous reasons.

One season in the 1930s, there was hot debate in the national press about whether Minnesota or Pitt, each with one loss, should be declared the national champions in football. One journalist, whose name seems to be lost to time, penned a satirical article arguing that Slippery Rock, with a record of 6 wins and 3 losses, should be declared the national champion under the logic of the transitive property (Slippery Rock beat Westminster, which beat West Virginia Wesleyan, which beat Duquesne, which beat Pitt, which beat Notre Dame, which beat Northwestern, which beat Minnesota).

The article was published widely, and Slippery Rock benefitted from the free press: a lot of big schools leaned into the satire and began announcing Slippery Rock scores over the PA system at games. This led to several interesting opportunities in later years, as Slippery Rock has played some games at the Rose Bowl and Michigan Stadium, the latter as recently as 2014.
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First a correction upon further research. Slippery Rock was most definitely not the program who succeeded RPI with the nation's longest losing streak as reported weekly on ABC's Prudential College Football Scoreboard. Slippery Rock never had several winless seasons in succession. Only heaven knows who else could have been as bad as RPI was in those days.

However, what I remember for certain was joking around with college chums while having lunch at the school's rathskeller about a similar scenario the loons then at WRPI worked up similar to the one above. The difference was that it was a whole lot longer and it involved RPI hoops. It had to be 1975 which was the only year UCLA both won the national championship and actually lost any games while I was in college. They were unbeaten for their other two titles while I was in college.

Anyway, RPI beat some little fish, who beat some other little fish, who beat another little fish, who beat that slightly bigger fish and so on forever and ever throughout the northeast. With what had to be a at least a few stunners along the way, it eventually got to long forgotten decent size fish team X somewhere in the northeast. Team X, whoever they were, brought the scenario to Gotham by beating Manhattan, who beat Washington, who stunned UCLA during the regular season.

Conclusion, albeit without the aid of computers, by WRPI personnel was that is was a good thing UCLA got to play Kentucky in the national championship game instead of RPI. Would be nice it they at least got it right!!!
 
DrDemento said:
We specifically scheduled Nichols to break our losing streak. They were as you mentioned a fresh new 4 year school without any seniors. We were leading 20-6 with only a couple minutes left to play. The fans were going wild and the '86 field was encircled as we were set to tear down the goal posts. Nichols scored on a broken play to make it 20-12 and went for a 2 point conversion which failed. The onside kick either failed or we fumbled it or on the first play after ( memory fails at this stage). Nichols tried a trick play of some sort which found a man wide open who ran in for the score. The 2 point conversion this time was successful and we ended with a 20-20 tie as time ran out.
Obviously a tie was disappointing but we did break the longest losing streak in college history so the fans tore down the goal posts anyway! In any case, the entire streak, now considered as a winless streak instead of a losing streak ended with a very unexpected win (by a couple touchdown margin) over Middlebury (I believe) leading to another goal post tear down celebration.
It was quite a different time having a very unsuccessful football team at a time when the hockey team was a top contender annually. The situation has unfortunately been quite reversed over the past 20+ years as we all know. But I remain hopeful.
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Thanks DrD. When the game started there were less fans. WRPI was broadcasting. Word spread. Near the end of the game the '86 field was packed with fans. I was there. The goal post went up Sage avenue. The paper reported that people were worried the goal post would hit the electric wires.

RPI 1964 and 1965 graduates never saw an RPI football victory although the coach and newspapers reported RPI winning some halfs.
 
I remember my cousin telling me that WTRY ran a sports report that evening, in which the announcer read off a list of major college football scores.

And after each major college score, the announcer would exclaim, "AND RPI TIED!" :D
 
In honor of Brody Maguire, today is 22 August 2024. There are 44 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 5 October 2024 for the start of next season.
 
tony/troy said:
First a correction upon further research. Slippery Rock was most definitely not the program who succeeded RPI with the nation's longest losing streak as reported weekly on ABC's Prudential College Football Scoreboard. Slippery Rock never had several winless seasons in succession. Only heaven knows who else could have been as bad as RPI was in those days.

However, what I remember for certain was joking around with college chums while having lunch at the school's rathskeller about a similar scenario the loons then at WRPI worked up similar to the one above. The difference was that it was a whole lot longer and it involved RPI hoops. It had to be 1975 which was the only year UCLA both won the national championship and actually lost any games while I was in college. They were unbeaten for their other two titles while I was in college.

Anyway, RPI beat some little fish, who beat some other little fish, who beat another little fish, who beat that slightly bigger fish and so on forever and ever throughout the northeast. With what had to be a at least a few stunners along the way, it eventually got to long forgotten decent size fish team X somewhere in the northeast. Team X, whoever they were, brought the scenario to Gotham by beating Manhattan, who beat Washington, who stunned UCLA during the regular season.

Conclusion, albeit without the aid of computers, by WRPI personnel was that is was a good thing UCLA got to play Kentucky in the national championship game instead of RPI. Would be nice it they at least got it right!!!
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I recall someone coming out with a sequence of scores when we beat Middlebury showing us beating Notre Dame.
 
DavidNardolillo said:
Slippery Rock football has only had modest success on the field but is fairly well known for humorous reasons.
One season in the 1930s, there was hot debate in the national press about whether Minnesota or Pitt, each with one loss, should be declared the national champions in football. One journalist, whose name seems to be lost to time, penned a satirical article arguing that Slippery Rock, with a record of 6 wins and 3 losses, should be declared the national champion under the logic of the transitive property (Slippery Rock beat Westminster, which beat West Virginia Wesleyan, which beat Duquesne, which beat Pitt, which beat Notre Dame, which beat Northwestern, which beat Minnesota).
The article was published widely, and Slippery Rock benefitted from the free press: a lot of big schools leaned into the satire and began announcing Slippery Rock scores over the PA system at games. This led to several interesting opportunities in later years, as Slippery Rock has played some games at the Rose Bowl and Michigan Stadium, the latter as recently as 2014.
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I believe Slippery Rock scores are still announced at all Michigan football games.
 
Ralph Baer said:
If I recall correctly, we were leading Nichols, and they came back to tie us. They had been a Junior College and that year had a junior class but no seniors. They beat us the following year.

Slippery rock is in PA. They still exist.
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Actually, the all time losing streak record is held by Prairie View A & M, who lost 80 straight from 1989-1998. Division III record is 50 straight by a couple of schools, I believe.
 
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