What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

sk8tronthepond said:
In order to do this exercise, you would need a team that actually matches a checking line on Carey. Then you would need to compute the amount of time during the course of the game, the top line of the team matching Carey gets on the ice. I bet you the checking line during the course of that 60 minutes (depending on constraints - game situations) will play more than their top line, which is my point. Obviously, Carey's current line is better defensively than Haggerty's based on the stats.
Click to expand...
So long as Carey and Haggarty both play less than 30 minutes per game, which is pretty much a given for forward, then the amount of ice time one gets does not impact the amount of time the other can get - even if matching lines dictates the two are never out there at the same time.
 
turk181 said:
Pretty sure that's Zach between Miller & Devito. Not sure who's on the right of Travis (Jake W. recently got a pretty short haircut)....no idea who's next to the trainer. He is wearing a # in the 30's & only Haggs, Kazzy & Scotty have those.
Click to expand...

Club team has keepers #30 and #33. Take your pic.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Today is March 6, 2014. There aren't any players ahead of Brock Higgs! Did you vote today?

Vote HERE.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Wicked Slappaahs said:
Club team has keepers #30 and #33. Take your pic.
Click to expand...

The number on the varsity jersey he's wearing doesn't have to (and probably doesn't) line up with the club number, of course.

If I had to take a wild guess I'd say maybe Sam Goodman from the club team? Makes sense that with Soffer officially the backup to Diebold, RPI would have a club guy as the practice goalie.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

jmhusker said:
I've always been a fan of true PK lines and matching up a checking line with the top forward line on the other team. Appert doesn't seem to subscribe to that theory.
Click to expand...
I watched this specifically at the Clarkson game and on a number of stoppages I saw RPI send out a line only to then see the Clarkson coach adjust his lines. Since home-ice has the right of last substitution on stoppages, it would appear that RPI doesn't care too much about line matching. I haven't paid attention at other games and it may have been only something RPI wasn't worrying about with the Clarkson matchup but it does speak to the sort of thing you were observing.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

RedWrister said:
I watched this specifically at the Clarkson game and on a number of stoppages I saw RPI send out a line only to then see the Clarkson coach adjust his lines. Since home-ice has the right of last substitution on stoppages, it would appear that RPI doesn't care too much about line matching. I haven't paid attention at other games and it may have been only something RPI wasn't worrying about with the Clarkson matchup but it does speak to the sort of thing you were observing.
Click to expand...
Apparently Appert is the one of the few who doesn't match lines which I think is bad. Looks like Tyler Sikura of Dartmouth is back from injuries so let's do a test. I would clamp down on his line with a checking line and free up Haggerty & co. to light up the goal light. Dartmouth is not the most prolific scoring team and if you shut down the top line I don't think the rest can pick up the slack. Let's see how it goes fri & sat.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Havasu M said:
Apparently Appert is the one of the few who doesn't match lines which I think is bad. Looks like Tyler Sikura of Dartmouth is back from injuries so let's do a test. I would clamp down on his line with a checking line and free up Haggerty & co. to light up the goal light. Dartmouth is not the most prolific scoring team and if you shut down the top line I don't think the rest can pick up the slack. Let's see how it goes fri & sat.
Click to expand...

And you wonder why, in press conferences, he keeps talking about focusing on themselves...
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Havasu M said:
Apparently Appert is the one of the few who doesn't match lines which I think is bad. Looks like Tyler Sikura of Dartmouth is back from injuries so let's do a test. I would clamp down on his line with a checking line and free up Haggerty & co. to light up the goal light. Dartmouth is not the most prolific scoring team and if you shut down the top line I don't think the rest can pick up the slack. Let's see how it goes fri & sat.
Click to expand...

Perhaps the biggest and sometimes overlooked advantage a team can have in hockey-is last change. Especially for faceoffs and during short handed situations. Not the only thing i find odd about our approach to home games and coaching but certainly one of the most obvious. We have all noticed and talked about the fact that we are a more than adequate first period team and often a very strong team out of the gate for the first 5-10 games. That's when changes have to often be made. Either we make the wrong ones, or we don't make enough, or we don't make any. Someone earlier posted that the Engineer way seems to be going with Plan A and sticking with it. Just my opinion, but that might work in lower levels, but not in NCAA Division I. It works when you have just plain overwhelming talent and depth, but not when you have perhaps 4 scoring threats and a couple of very good defensemen. Unless we are really prepared to adapt on the fly this weekend-I see us being the same team as most of this season(ahead or tied at the end of the first period-and then struggling)
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Judging by his interviews, I believe that Seth believes that his system is unbeatable.
He wants to be tough to play against and play with speed. I think that that is a very good system, but you need the guys to play that system.
We can be fast and tough, but when we are pushed in our own zone, we are not poised or confident. We run around with no system at all.
I have seen this in almost every game at one point of another. Put pressure on our team for more than 30 seconds in the defensive zone and we lose it.
We are awful about getting the puck out of the zone. Even when we have a clear out, we will stop just before the blue line and try to make a play. Giving the opposition every opportunity to keep the puck in the zone, and they almost always do. I cringe every time we fail to get the puck out of our zone.
We should be much better at this, as it has been happening all year, and we have not adjusted. I don't think that this is on the coaches, but I could be wrong.
We should get past this weekend, but there are no sure things.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

engineerhockeyfan said:
Judging by his interviews, I believe that Seth believes that his system is unbeatable.
He wants to be tough to play against and play with speed. I think that that is a very good system, but you need the guys to play that system.
We can be fast and tough, but when we are pushed in our own zone, we are not poised or confident. We run around with no system at all.
I have seen this in almost every game at one point of another. Put pressure on our team for more than 30 seconds in the defensive zone and we lose it.
We are awful about getting the puck out of the zone. Even when we have a clear out, we will stop just before the blue line and try to make a play. Giving the opposition every opportunity to keep the puck in the zone, and they almost always do. I cringe every time we fail to get the puck out of our zone.
We should be much better at this, as it has been happening all year, and we have not adjusted. I don't think that this is on the coaches, but I could be wrong.
We should get past this weekend, but there are no sure things.
Click to expand...

DrDemento said:
Perhaps the biggest and sometimes overlooked advantage a team can have in hockey-is last change. Especially for faceoffs and during short handed situations. Not the only thing i find odd about our approach to home games and coaching but certainly one of the most obvious. We have all noticed and talked about the fact that we are a more than adequate first period team and often a very strong team out of the gate for the first 5-10 games. That's when changes have to often be made. Either we make the wrong ones, or we don't make enough, or we don't make any. Someone earlier posted that the Engineer way seems to be going with Plan A and sticking with it. Just my opinion, but that might work in lower levels, but not in NCAA Division I. It works when you have just plain overwhelming talent and depth, but not when you have perhaps 4 scoring threats and a couple of very good defensemen. Unless we are really prepared to adapt on the fly this weekend-I see us being the same team as most of this season(ahead or tied at the end of the first period-and then struggling)
Click to expand...

Last year's Chicago Blackhawks team was one of the best pro hockey teams I've ever seen on a season-long, consistent basis. They adjust and match lines, and they had a nearly optimal combination of size, speed, hitting, defense, scoring, and goal-tending. If even the best of the best do it.....well......
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

FlagDUDE08 said:
Think about what the team has done in terms of game strategy for the past few years, all while recalling the commonly given definition of "insanity".
Click to expand...

What you know about game strategy could fill a carbon nanotube.

Why don't you just go ahead and let ehf answer it himself? Don't answer, I already know why.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Havasu M said:
Apparently Appert is the one of the few who doesn't match lines which I think is bad. Looks like Tyler Sikura of Dartmouth is back from injuries so let's do a test. I would clamp down on his line with a checking line and free up Haggerty & co. to light up the goal light. Dartmouth is not the most prolific scoring team and if you shut down the top line I don't think the rest can pick up the slack. Let's see how it goes fri & sat.
Click to expand...
Sikura has a -7. Not that I know, but why not run our best line against that? Pinkston (d) has a -10 with 40 PIM. Not that it will happen a lot necessarily, buy why not try to get the top line out when Sikura is on O and Pinkston on D? I'm sure there are better hypotheticals. I'd like to look for some specific match-ups this weekend and would appreciate theories.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Red Cloud said:
Why?
Click to expand...

Cloud, I know that you listen to his interviews. All he ever says is that we need to play our game. He never talks about match ups or defense or offense. He wants to be tough to play against.
And we need to stick to the process. It is always what we need to do, never a comment of how we should approach the opponent.
That tells me that he thinks that his system will win out. JMO.
 
Re: RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

Red Cloud said:
What you know about game strategy could fill a carbon nanotube.

Why don't you just go ahead and let ehf answer it himself? Don't answer, I already know why.
Click to expand...

You're running out of insults, guy, because you tried that one a couple weeks ago. I don't need to prove anything to you, because game strategy is fairly obvious in continuous play team games, regardless of the specific sport. Keep spreading your propaganda.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top