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RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

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AspyDad said:
If you throw your checking line out against their top line it means that your top line will match against their checking line. You want your top line out against there top line because they most likely are not proficient defensively either. Also it will limit the minutes your top guys get. IMHO.
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It all depends on how you are matching up. With the last change you can control this pretty well - especially after icings and other offensive zone face-offs.
 
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sk8tronthepond said:
It is way more important to match D vs F than it is to match F vs F. http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/player/_/stat/timeonice/sort/avgTimeOnIce
Proof is in the pudding!!
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Would absolutely agree here just by intuition. Who better to shut down the offensive power of an opposing line of good forwards than guys who can knock them down and block their shots and keep them from entering the offensive zone in the first place?
 
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AspyDad said:
If you throw your checking line out against their top line it means that your top line will match against their checking line. You want your top line out against there top line because they most likely are not proficient defensively either. Also it will limit the minutes your top guys get. IMHO.
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Tried that with St Lawrence result Carey & co 3 Haggerty & Co 0. If you have the last change you can match up with 3rd and 4th lines. Zalewski & Higgs are on the top line play well defensively and kill penalties. Respect your opinion theres no right or wrong here but if something is not working it needs to be fixed.
 
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Havasu M said:
Tried that with St Lawrence result Carey & co 3 Haggerty & Co 0. If you have the last change you can match up with 3rd and 4th lines. Zalewski & Higgs are on the top line play well defensively and kill penalties. Respect your opinion theres no right or wrong here but if something is not working it needs to be fixed.
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I'm still wondering why you would want to place on the ice to defend your opponent's leading scorer the guy that sits during PKs for bench minors and penalties with misconduct.
 
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sk8tronthepond said:
It is way more important to match D vs F than it is to match F vs F. http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/player/_/stat/timeonice/sort/avgTimeOnIce
Proof is in the pudding!!
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Ding Ding Ding sk8 wins the prize I have a whole new respect. Someone mentioned Chara as an example he is the best example one only needs to watch a Bruin/Penguin game to see that Chara is up Crosbys arse the whole game when you see it in person they almost play like a box and 1 and Chara is the chase man it frustrates Crosby so much he has pushed and shoved Chara like he wanted to go. Thats like me wanting to go with Mongo Bennett. We really lack a pure shutdown dman at this point that in my opinion is why you don't see alot of matching going on but you will notice that whatever pairing Beef is on will see alot of time against the top line.
 
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Match-ups aside, which I agree are very important, if we don't improve our powerplay we are going to have a short weekend (and not for good reasons). In our last 18 games, we are 7-for-57 on the PP. It gets even worse as we gave up two shorties for a net 5-for-57. Not what Appert wants but unfortunately that has been "Engineer Hockey".
 
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I agree that our special team play has been poor. I just looked at College Hockey Stats and overall we are 37th on the powerplay and 25th on the penalty kill. Those are about how things have seemed.

What I want to mention is that we are 15th in the combined special teams ranking which is 2nd in the ECAC only slightly behind Cornell. Who came up with the idea of taking two statistics and dividing the sum of the numerators by the sum of the denominators? That is totally meaningless!
 
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RPI will survive to the time change.

And should RPI win tomorrow, they will be guaranteed at least a .500 season.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I agree that our special team play has been poor. I just looked at College Hockey Stats and overall we are 37th on the powerplay and 25th on the penalty kill. Those are about how things have seemed.

What I want to mention is that we are 15th in the combined special teams ranking which is 2nd in the ECAC only slightly behind Cornell. Who came up with the idea of taking two statistics and dividing the sum of the numerators by the sum of the denominators? That is totally meaningless!
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If you look carefully at the early part of the year-our special teams were absolutely near the top for the entire country. Did everyone just get better, did we just get worse, or did everyone figure us out and we did not make any changes? I vote for number 3.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
RPI will survive to the time change.

And should RPI win tomorrow, they will be guaranteed at least a .500 season.
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Very important to get this series over with a sweep. If we have to lose a game, let it happen next weekend(along with 2 wins). The longer the winning streak we need to maintain, the more difficult of course. We will need the freshest legs for next weekend(if we get there) as we are on the road and nothing has come easy for us.
 
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Things might be a bit depressing in Potsdorf right now-Princeton got a winner in OT. In these low scoring days of the ECAC, you just never know.
 
turk181 said:
anyone notice SA went with 3 D-men (2nd unit) on the last 2 PP?
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Yes! Bokenfohr down low - and looked more than comfortable going it ! Love it.

I thought tonight was the most complete game we have played in many weeks. Forwards displayed a 3 period commitment at both ends of the ice. I've been open in my critiques of Hags - but he was excellent tonite and had several excellent shifts in our DEFENSIVE end. We are a different team when he plays this way. !!!! Keep it up Ryan. Great effort.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
I'd put the Steps of Knowledge in there as well. :D
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Seems to me that an RPI class ring is big enough as is... ;)


PS: Tonight's other ECACHL winners
--Yale (4-0 over Harvard)
--Princeton (3-2 over Clarkson in OT)
--St Lawrence (3-2 over Brown in 2 OT)
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Yes! Bokenfohr down low - and looked more than comfortable going it ! Love it.

I thought tonight was the most complete game we have played in many weeks. Forwards displayed a 3 period commitment at both ends of the ice. I've been open in my critiques of Hags - but he was excellent tonite and had several excellent shifts in our DEFENSIVE end. We are a different team when he plays this way. !!!! Keep it up Ryan. Great effort.
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I would disagree based on the second period alone, and a little bit more than that. They look completely disconnected and incoherent as a team the entire second period. If not for Diebold making some excellent saves, this game could have been tied, and quickly. Being a man up at a lot of times seemed to be basically pointless, as we were looking for that perfect setup in our own zone that never came. They need to start actually MOVING when they are a man up; seems like they get more scoring chances when they are a man down!

That being said, not the worst effort I've seen from RPI this season at all. They need to tighten the screws on special teams play. And they need to not do what I call the "Polacek PP": pass the puck to Polacek and he'll put it in the net. Substitute "Haggerty" for "Polacek" and you have the modern version, taking four or five of the same shot on the man advantage and wondering why it doesn't go in.

On another note, surprisingly, short of one bad call and a few strange ones, the reffing wasn't nearly as bad as it usually is.
 
ibanezist00 said:
I would disagree based on the second period alone, and a little bit more than that. They look completely disconnected and incoherent as a team the entire second period. If not for Diebold making some excellent saves, this game could have been tied, and quickly. Being a man up at a lot of times seemed to be basically pointless, as we were looking for that perfect setup in our own zone that never came. They need to start actually MOVING when they are a man up; seems like they get more scoring chances when they are a man down!

That being said, not the worst effort I've seen from RPI this season at all. They need to tighten the screws on special teams play. And they need to not do what I call the "Polacek PP": pass the puck to Polacek and he'll put it in the net. Substitute "Haggerty" for "Polacek" and you have the modern version, taking four or five of the same shot on the man advantage and wondering why it doesn't go in.

On another note, surprisingly, short of one bad call and a few strange ones, the reffing wasn't nearly as bad as it usually is.
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Well we mustve watched different games. We outshot them, beat them in the faceoff circle and beat them physically. We killed a two man PK and to a man, the forwards all skated hard and finished checks -all of them. Scotty stuffed a breakaway and the D corps played great. (Le Beefs pancAke between the circles leading JLs jail break goal the other way ...just one example ) We had two Union fans sitting behind us and they were gently razzing me for being anxious in the 3rd period ..."this ones all over "they we're saying.

That said , I fully expect D to come out chippy and thuggish tomorrow. We need to use our speed in transition and outshoot them , as we did tonight.
 
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