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RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board

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I'd have to agree. Whenever I am at an NHL game where I can get upper bowl center ice looking down at all the action (at about the vantage point of the press box), it's great. Acrophobia may get to me at first, but it's well worth it. I know, nothing like being DIRECTLY OVER the action, but hey, you take what you can get.

Didn't some of the radio announcers broadcast from a similar catwalk at Herb Brooks Arena in 1980? At least from something I saw on Youtube (of course who knows how true that is).

No, they definitely did in 1980. They had to build extra catwalks for coverage because of the USA/USSR thing, at least that's what I've read. It was built sheerly out of the fact that the arena was subpar a facility for what they were doing.

Ironically, they created a memorable thing with it because the arena was literally spilling over with people back then. But it was origianlly very poorly planned like the rest of the Olympiad.

Yes, I made a word up with 'sheerly'
 
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I would never have guessed it, but now that you mention it I'm sure it is. From my experience, press boxes that are right on top of stands are the worst (like Yale) and the catwalk clearly isn't one of those. On the upside, if you guys are ever out this way and really want to see a bad press box, I'm a Bentley guy thru and thru - our press box was built last year and it was a) poorly constructed and b) poorly painted. It's very cramped, and one of our radio guys is...well...he's not tall and thin, let's put it that way.

Then again, that's what we are to begin with, if you've ever seen the JAR.

I just think with your rink if they renovated it and put seats all the way around the bowl, it would become a better venue. I don't like the staging on one end where the band is (as a personal preference), having been there only for the playoffs against Brown a couple of years ago (I was at the game you guys won).

Ever seen the press box at Messa?

The pep band currently does not play on the stage, as that area has been used for other purposes during the renovation.
 
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I would never have guessed it, but now that you mention it I'm sure it is. From my experience, press boxes that are right on top of stands are the worst (like Yale) and the catwalk clearly isn't one of those. On the upside, if you guys are ever out this way and really want to see a bad press box, I'm a Bentley guy thru and thru - our press box was built last year and it was a) poorly constructed and b) poorly painted. It's very cramped, and one of our radio guys is...well...he's not tall and thin, let's put it that way.

Then again, that's what we are to begin with, if you've ever seen the JAR.

I just think with your rink if they renovated it and put seats all the way around the bowl, it would become a better venue. I don't like the staging on one end where the band is (as a personal preference), having been there only for the playoffs against Brown a couple of years ago (I was at the game you guys won).

The stage has been removed, abnd the band now sits in the stands. Persoanlly, I always liked the band at the end where they can heckle.
 
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The stage has been removed, abnd the band now sits in the stands. Persoanlly, I always liked the band at the end where they can heckle.

I just thought it was a misuse of space. More potential seating available there?
 
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I just thought it was a misuse of space. More potential seating available there?

I would think that either a standing room or some sort of "closed-off pub area" with the band performing on top of it would be neat.
 
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The Princeton game is on a Friday, yes? If it were Saturday, I'd be tempted to go. Heck, I'd consider taking a Friday off; I have to use up some vacation time as it is... after all, Hobey Baker Rink is one of the two rinks I've never seen in the ECAC (Thompson being the other).

I have lost count of the rinks I have seen RPI play in over the past 47 years. I still like Baker rink-it is small, noisy, and frigid. Besides over the years we have a pretty fair record there and when we win the rink always seems better.:)
 
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Notre Dame - RPI

game to be televised on Notre Dame Video Channel
 
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If it's nippy out, expect homemade Irish Cream!!!;)

We always bring something-used to be gimlets but lately Jenny has switched to Van Gogh Dutch Caramel. I am happy with anything that qualifies as a potent potable.;)
 
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I have lost count of the rinks I have seen RPI play in over the past 47 years. I still like Baker rink-it is small, noisy, and frigid. Besides over the years we have a pretty fair record there and when we win the rink always seems better.:)

It also could be the next to the last time for a while that you can go there to watch RPI. I doubt that Princeton will be that high on RPI's list of candidates for OOC games if we join the HE, and we certainly won't play them twice every year.
 
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It also could be the next to the last time for a while that you can go there to watch RPI. I doubt that Princeton will be that high on RPI's list of candidates for OOC games if we join the HE, and we certainly won't play them twice every year.

Very true and it would be a great loss. But nothing is carved in stone yet. Not sure what the future will bring-I do think that sometime in the future the Ivies will go it alone.
 
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You're not missing much. For a school with as much money as Princeton, the rink is a dump.

Really? Of of the 8 ECAC arenas I've been to (HFH, Messa, Starr, Lynah, Appleton, Cheel, the Bank, and Hobey), Hobey is probably my favorite. It's small, but it feels so close and I love the architecture. I really like older rinks though, so that may be the difference between you and I.
 
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I guess I miss the logic here. It's not like the other teams get to travel a shorter distance to our rink than we do to theirs. So long as there is a balanced schedule (same home and away) then what difference does it make? Furthermore, keeping the team in a hotel on a road trip to BC and BU might be a better team building opportunity than taking two afternoon bus rides from Northeastern or North Andover.

I'm asking a question, not making a statement, because you do see a similar problem in other sports sometimes....someone once even quantified it, although it was over a longer schedule AND with much longer travel distances as well.

The logic is, when all of the other teams play each other, then they have shorter travel times for those matches so that the accumulation of travel over the course of the entire season is much lower for some teams than for others (BU, BC and Northeastern have shorter trips to each other than RPI would have to each one of them, for example). One team may wind up traveling hundreds of miles more than another over the course of the same season with the same common opponents. Of course, this problem would affect Notre Dame more than any other HE team and it doesn't seem to faze them!

As others have said, there may be compensating advantages which offset that situation, as well.....
 
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Really? Of of the 8 ECAC arenas I've been to (HFH, Messa, Starr, Lynah, Appleton, Cheel, the Bank, and Hobey), Hobey is probably my favorite. It's small, but it feels so close and I love the architecture. I really like older rinks though, so that may be the difference between you and I.

Short of Walter Brown and Lake Placid, I'm not one for the older rinks. I'm a big fan of Conte Forum for BC, and I absolutely love Meehan Auditorium for Brown. It's just a shame Brown doesn't get anybody in that rink because it's a great venue to watch a game. Agganis out here in Boston is a great place, but it's a tad bit antiseptic. And they've done a great job of modernizing Matthews Arena for Northeastern. They've made it a classic look while updating the building infrastructure. 5 years ago it was a pit. Now after the renovations and general repairs it looks modern but at the same time like it did when the Bruins played there back in the day.

I've only been to Harvard a few times, but not a huge fan, and Yale's kind of weird with its structure, so I guess I'm not used to it. The only toher team out here that I've been to is Holy Cross, and their seating leaves a TON to be desired. it's a nice place but horrible job on the seating.

And then there's Bentley, where it smells like a toilet. The visiting locker room doesnt even have a toilet so in between periods, the players go to the bathroom with our 500 fans. I'm sure Clarkson will be thrilled they agreed to 2 games at the end of the month out here.
 
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I'm asking a question, not making a statement, because you do see a similar problem in other sports sometimes....someone once even quantified it, although it was over a longer schedule AND with much longer travel distances as well.

The logic is, when all of the other teams play each other, then they have shorter travel times for those matches so that the accumulation of travel over the course of the entire season is much lower for some teams than for others (BU, BC and Northeastern have shorter trips to each other than RPI would have to each one of them, for example). One team may wind up traveling hundreds of miles more than another over the course of the same season with the same common opponents. Of course, this problem would affect Notre Dame more than any other HE team and it doesn't seem to faze them!

As others have said, there may be compensating advantages which offset that situation, as well.....
Ah now I see your angle. If the ultimate goal is to compete nationally though then the question we need to ask isn't how does our travel compare to HE but how would it compare to now? If we assume that RPI and ND are travel partners and HE goes with 6 travel partner sets (yes this is only one scenario and may not be the most likely) then we can compare road trips now vs. HE road trips:

Union (15miles) vs. ND (732 miles)
Colgate/Cornell (110/170) vs. Umass/UVM (104/144)
Yale/Brown (133/168) vs. NE/Providence (174/168)
Dart/HU (131/174) vs. BU/BC (174/174)
Q/Princeton (127/191) vs. UML/MC (176/186)
CC/SLU (191/194) vs. UNH/UME (231/411)

One might argue that 4 of the travel partner comparisons are a wash. The 5th weekend of slow driving 200 miles thru the Adirondacks vs. 400 Highway miles to Maine is a big distance difference but probably only 2 hours longer. And of course the trip to ND might only be 15 miles to the airport instead of 15 miles to Schenectady - and we get to play in a real rink.

Overall the travel burden does not seem that much worse. Yes it's easier to be one of the Mass schools but they are a unique situation. You can't find so many tightly bunched D1 programs anywhere else in the country. And remember that UMaine already has it worse than we would. That didn't stop them from having a long stretch of success in the recent past.
 
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