>>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-13: Clawing our way up the standings in the 2nd half

[Zyklon]

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That... makes no sense. And doesn't match the latest rendering of the interior. Or any rendering we've seen, for that matter. Why the heck would you enter the bowl at ice level??


Powers &8^]

He took the puck to the neck according to a friend of mine... In any case, an injury in which a guy is down should usually cause the ref to stop play. I think we overall did play well, only criticism I would have is that Noyes needs to not take shifts off (he definitely did at points) and a coach needs to sit down with Colavecchia and teach him how to pass smartly, there's a reason he is one of our top goal scorers and yet still has the worst +/- on the team (in less games than everyone else).

 

[jflory81]

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My kingdom for announcers who actually understand the game. "Intent" had NOTHING to do with why the late game penalty was not a penalty shot. It was because, in the refs view, Schuler was not denied a breakaway. Honestly, from my view (aided by replays) it wasn't even a penalty. He got the puck first.

They also managed to completely mis-identify the first two RIT penalties (aided by poor replay selection by the telecast): the first was actually committed behind the net - while the too many men penalty was about as obvious as I've seen but was somehow originally mis-identified as a slash or hook or something on McGowan (who served the TMM penalty)


Anyway, I'm okay with the tie. Nice to see them battle back twice in the 3rd, although I wasn't a big fan of Niagara's first two goals from a goaltender's point of view. Like I said a couple weekends ago, even with a good offense its tough to consistently win games giving up 3 or 4 goals every night. Coming out of the first at 1-1 was frustrating considering how well RIT played - I can't help but feel if the tables were flipped and Niagara had that kind of zone time/pressure that RIT would have found themselves a couple of goals behind.

 

[RITProf]

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They are going to have a walkway around the top with walls behind as in Ritter. You'll come in at ice level and go up to the seats. This is how it was explained to us last weekend.

Plans are changing fairly quickly as things move along and specifics get decided.

In one of the renderings of the scaled back arena, there were tunnel entrances near ice level for part of the bowl (and then a few steps down to row 1 and up to the walkway. I suppose something like that could work OK, but it sounds like more scaling back to me.

See http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4TopX_jKN9o/UITyVY1qDWI/AAAAAAAAH8w/q7ZuUzhQPRc/s1600/Polisseni.png
(I didn't find this one on RIT's site any longer.)

As far as the game, a tie against #1 and nationally ranked is good, but did RIT play up to Niagara or did Niagara play down to RIT (as we so often accuse the Tigers of doing)? I thought Niagara looked like they could have stepped it up a level had they wanted to, but yet they didn't (or RIT didn't let them). I think they were also missing a key player. Tonight will be interesting ... another tie ... or a big statement by by one or the other???

 

[LtPowers]

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They are going to have a walkway around the top with walls behind as in Ritter. You'll come in at ice level and go up to the seats. This is how it was explained to us last weekend.

Plans are changing fairly quickly as things move along and specifics get decided.

Seems kinda bush-league. We were supposed to have a nice ramp up from parking level to a concourse-level lobby.

I get less and less enthused about this new rink every day. It feels like they're cheaping out on what was promised.


Powers &8^]

 

[LtPowers]

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Don't ... get ... me ... started.

Well it's only fair since you're the ones who mentioned it in the postgame and got me started.




Powers &8^]

 

[LtPowers]

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He took the puck to the neck according to a friend of mine... In any case, an injury in which a guy is down should usually cause the ref to stop play.

They'll only stop play if the team with the injured player possesses the puck (unless it goes on a while without that happening). By the the time we touched it up, Colaveccia was getting to his feet, so no whistle was blown. If he'd stayed down a second longer, Niagara's third goal never happens.

We did get that fifth man out on the ice before the goal, but you know the Tigers must have been a little discombobulated.


Powers &8^]

 

[mar7967]

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I get less and less enthused about this new rink every day. It feels like they're cheaping out on what was promised.

That's what happens when they don't raise the money they want to.

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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It feels like they're cheaping out on what was promised.


Powers &8^]

When they totaled up everything that was asked for, the cost would have been more than 1.5 times budget.

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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Some folks have asked whether Schuler should have been awarded a penalty shot late in OT. Here are the rules for a penalty shot in the current rulebook:

25.6 Penalty Shot – A penalty shot is designed to restore a scoring opportunity which was lost as a result of a foul being committed by the offending team, based on the parameters set out in these rules.

There are four (4) specific conditions that must be met in order for the Referee to award a penalty shot for a player being fouled from behind. They are:

• The infraction must have taken place in the neutral zone or attacking zone, (i.e. over the puck carrier’s own blue line);

• The infraction must have been committed from behind;

• The player in possession and control (or, in the judgment of the Referee, clearly would have obtained possession and control of the puck) must have been denied a reasonable chance to score (the fact that he got a shot off does not automatically eliminate this play from the penalty shot consideration criteria. If the foul was from behind and he was denied a “more” reasonable scoring opportunity due to the foul, then the penalty shot should be awarded);

• The player in possession and control (or, in the judgment of the Referee, clearly would have obtained possession and control of the puck) must have had no opposing player between himself and the goalkeeper.

 

[blazer777]

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When they totaled up everything that was asked for, the cost would have been more than 1.5 times budget.

Probably some republican on the board keeping Destler from raising the debt ceiling!

 

[dpm105]

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I get less and less enthused about this new rink every day. It feels like they're cheaping out on what was promised.
Powers &8^]

Par for the course? The whole Park Point concept (I know, I know, it wasn't built by RIT) and Global Village were similar in my opinion.

 

[RIT Winters]

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You're all welcome to start donating if you think the new rink isn't up to snuff.

Donations to the Power Play campaign have all but dried up this season.

 

[RITProf]

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You're all welcome to start donating if you think the new rink isn't up to snuff.

Donations to the Power Play campaign have all but dried up this season.

It's difficult to get donations once the shovels are in the ground (waiting another year might be have been prudent ... although costs go up too).
It's also difficult to go back to donors for more when what is actually getting built is not what they saw when the donation was made (within reason).

More certainly would have been donated for a bigger/better arena, but would the wait have been worth it? Would the "more" have been enough to balance the added costs? A difficult balancing act indeed. I think a favorable environment for the bonds might also have been a very big factor behind the scenes.

I have to say I am personally disappointed in what I hear is going to be built (yes, all hearsay), but it will still be a huge step up and a great thing for the program overall.

 

[jflory81]

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Some folks have asked whether Schuler should have been awarded a penalty shot late in OT. Here are the rules for a penalty shot in the current rulebook:

25.6 Penalty Shot – A penalty shot is designed to restore a scoring opportunity which was lost as a result of a foul being committed by the offending team, based on the parameters set out in these rules.

There are four (4) specific conditions that must be met in order for the Referee to award a penalty shot for a player being fouled from behind. They are:

• The infraction must have taken place in the neutral zone or attacking zone, (i.e. over the puck carrier’s own blue line);

• The infraction must have been committed from behind;

• The player in possession and control (or, in the judgment of the Referee, clearly would have obtained possession and control of the puck) must have been denied a reasonable chance to score (the fact that he got a shot off does not automatically eliminate this play from the penalty shot consideration criteria. If the foul was from behind and he was denied a “more” reasonable scoring opportunity due to the foul, then the penalty shot should be awarded);

• The player in possession and control (or, in the judgment of the Referee, clearly would have obtained possession and control of the puck) must have had no opposing player between himself and the goalkeeper.

I mentioned this in my original post, but I didn't even think it was a penalty on the replay. Thought the NU player got the puck before making contact with Schuler. But even if he didn't, I'm not sure Schuler had complete control of the puck at the time. I don't have a problem with the no pen shot call either way.

 

[LtPowers]

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Donations to the Power Play campaign have all but dried up this season.

That's certainly part of the problem. The campaign was launched, and it seemed the administration expected the funds to just roll in. Frankly, so did I. (I did my part.) The fact that they didn't just roll in, and the fact that we've only raised about half what they wanted to, indicates a severe misreading of the financial potential available for this type of project -- either that, or total incompetence in fundraising on the part of Dr. Watters, but that seems highly unlikely.

But either way, RIT dropped the ball here, whether by failing to get a good read of the amount of monetary support the arena would get, or by failing to leverage it properly. If that's leading to cost-cutting in the arena design, this could end up being a disaster.


Powers &8^]

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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I mentioned this in my original post, but I didn't even think it was a penalty on the replay. Thought the NU player got the puck before making contact with Schuler. But even if he didn't, I'm not sure Schuler had complete control of the puck at the time. I don't have a problem with the no pen shot call either way.

The tripping call needed to be called in any case, even though the opponent made contact with the puck. That was changed in the NCAA a while back. From the current rule book: "Tripping must be called anytime it occurs, regardless of whether contact is made with the puck."

 

[jflory81]

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The tripping call needed to be called in any case, even though the opponent made contact with the puck. That was changed in the NCAA a while back. From the current rule book: "Tripping must be called anytime it occurs, regardless of whether contact is made with the puck."

Huh. Interesting. I don't like that rule change at all. But then, I haven't liked a good portion of the rule changes they've made (for example, if you're going to still call the penalty after a goal on a delayed penalty, why release a guy at all after a PP goal?)

 

[StimulisRK]

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So tonights game is on LCTV (Lockport Community TV) and they have a live stream on their website...and OF COURSE there's a server error.

 

[unscarred76]

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LOL so I buy the A1 feed and the fing camera isnt even pointed at the ice. ***, what a joke morons. So ****ed...

 

[jflory81]

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LOL so I buy the A1 feed and the fing camera isnt even pointed at the ice. ***, what a joke morons. So ****ed...

Sounds like you didn't want to watch this one anyway - you might be more ****ed actually watching it.

It's gonna take something special to get a split out of the weekend now...