>>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

[RITFan67]

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I completely agree with the McRenoylds line comments and it should be another great game tonight... I'm looking forward to it!!

 

[RITFan67]

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I thought RIT essentially put on a clinic for the first period and most of the second. Despite not scoring as many goals as I would have liked, I thought it was some of the best hockey the team has played so far this year. Having Madalora back has been huge, as well as Saracino. If you watch his game its obvious he is our top defender and really brings a physical presence to the blue line. Noyes had a strong game as well. He had some key poke checks and really cleared out the garbage in front of the net. I'm loving the McRenoylds line. If Garbowsky and McGowan already have a lot of chemistry its going to be great to see them as upper class men.

Yeah... it was really good, solid hockey!

 

[komey1]

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I'm thinking RIT got lucky to get this win. The second period was awesome. The rest of the game, not so much.

 

[35TH40TH]

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Whats up with the WITR Guys wanting to go home so early? Aren't they married?
We really wanted to here from Wayne after the third period meltdown.

 

[LtPowers]

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Whats up with the WITR Guys wanting to go home so early? Aren't they married?
We really wanted to here from Wayne after the third period meltdown.

I wanted to hear from the coach too, but there's only so much time they can kill on the radio. They'd recapped eleven goals and stalled as much as they could.


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[Ed Trefzger]

Whats up with the WITR Guys wanting to go home so early? Aren't they married?
We really wanted to here from Wayne after the third period meltdown.

Wayne apparently decided not to do an interview. We waited an extra ten minutes while he talked to people in the lobby after the TV interview. We're not going to wait all night.

 

[Ed Trefzger]

I would have asked about Burt's meltdown and what appears to be a lack of leadership among some of the seniors. Maybe it's better we didn't have the interview.

Edit: Apparently now we know why Cam was upset. If what he suggests by his tweet happened, there's no excuse for allowing it. Referees should have enforced the rule. League commissioner and head of officials were there at the Ritter.

 

[ken66]

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I'm sure Holy Cross went home tonight thinking that they hadn't lost the game, they just ran out of time. There's some truth to that, though. It also shows how difficult it is to win both games on a weekend. I believe the refs lost control of this game in the third period, esp not calling an obvious charge on HC in front of their bench. Good teams, however, know how to play with a lead. At least this one didn't get away.

 

[Bing]

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I would have asked about Burt's meltdown and what appears to be a lack of leadership among some of the seniors. Maybe it's better we didn't have the interview.

I sit behind RIT's penalty box and Burt was FURIOUS. Someone on the HC bench must've said something particularly nasty to Burt. It was probably a good move on Ellis' part to give Burt the game misconduct (and I'm surprised he didn't get it sooner actually) because I was having flashbacks of the Canisius Brawl. Please note: this is probably the only time I'll ever give kudos to Ellis.

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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I sit behind RIT's penalty box and Burt was FURIOUS. Someone on the HC bench must've said something particularly nasty to Burt. It was probably a good move on Ellis' part to give Burt the game misconduct (and I'm surprised he didn't get it sooner actually) because I was having flashbacks of the Canisius Brawl. Please note: this is probably the only time I'll ever give kudos to Ellis.

Burt on Twitter: "Never has anyone said anything like that to me on the ice. I'm disgusted and upset. Something needs to happen before things get out of hand"

Rule 6 Section 1 paragraph h of the NCAA ice hockey rule book: "A player, coach or other non-playing person shall not direct ethnic or racial slurs to an official, opposing player or opposing team personnel." PENALTY—Game misconduct

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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If Ellis ignored racial slurs, he deserves no kudos. It's unacceptable. It's unconscionable.

 

[mar7967]

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Changing the topic real quick, the latest episode of Sportzone talks about the Madolora suspension. In his interview, Shane said he was suspended 5 games because he played 5 games.

Looking at his first season, 2009-2010, he played in 5 games and started 3 - this might be where the recommendation of 3 games came from, and the justification for the 5 game suspension. Not saying I agree with it, but now we know where they came up with the 5 game suspension.

 

[Bing]

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If Ellis ignored racial slurs, he deserves no kudos. It's unacceptable. It's unconscionable.

eesh. I was wondering if it was something like that. From what I could discern from attempting to read Coach's lips, he said something to the officials along the lines of "You need to get a clue about what's going on out there."

 

[LtPowers]

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Looking at his first season, 2009-2010, he played in 5 games and started 3 - this might be where the recommendation of 3 games came from, and the justification for the 5 game suspension. Not saying I agree with it, but now we know where they came up with the 5 game suspension.

One of those two non-starts was the national semifinal. He played two and a half minutes.


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[kbranch]

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Unfortunately it is no secret that Burt can get taken off his game - opponents work at it all the time.

 

[LtPowers]

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Wayne apparently decided not to do an interview. We waited an extra ten minutes while he talked to people in the lobby after the TV interview. We're not going to wait all night.

Apparently he was late to the TV interview because he was speaking with officials about Burt's penalties.


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[MattS]

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I would have asked about Burt's meltdown and what appears to be a lack of leadership among some of the seniors. Maybe it's better we didn't have the interview.

Why would it be better to not have the interview? I would like have like to known the answers to your questions and think they are fair ones to ask.

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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Why would it be better to not have the interview? I would like have like to known the answers to your questions and think they are fair ones to ask.

I meant that only in the sense that it would have been a more tense and perhaps confrontational interview than usual, especially given the heightened emotions surrounding the game. We also limit what we ask about officiating. There is little the coach can say about it without getting in trouble, so we can either expect a mild or non-answer, or we help cause a problem for him. We also usually frame things in such a way that if there is going to be any "calling out" that it comes from the coach's mouth. We're looking for his take and not ours.

Bottom line: as broadcasters for the program as opposed to independent journalists, our role is somewhat different -- we're not there to be adversarial.

The same applies when we have a guest on from RIT. We're not going to have an RIT administrator on and ask embarrassing or pointed questions -- that is if we want to continue on the air. For example, we wouldn't have Dr. Destler on to talk about some new program and ask a question like, "RIT's tuition has increased at more than three times the rate of inflation over the past 20 years. What, if anything, is the university doing to rein in these escalating increases?" It's a good and valid question, but not good in that venue.

 

[Tom Naeger]

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I saw the replay right before I saw Cameron's tweet, and I thought to myself someone said a racial slur. It was confusing at the game because I could not see what happen. I thought there was a check shot on Burt because Wayne exploded off the bench toward the RIT door, and you could hear him yelling Jason, Jason (Ellis)!!

The Penalty sequence was odd to watch on the replay which was a straight down camera view. Matt Gordon was knock down by Mitchell, at first I thought I thought Burt who was in tight quarters with Mitchell and Gordon was just swinging his arms to keep his balance, but looking at it a few time it looked like he was trying to cross check Gordon, but seemed like he missed and hit the board twice. Next thing see Cameron turning around very quickly to confront someone like he just heard something inexcusable which appeared to be Nilan Nagy. Burt appeared to swipe at him and then he puts up the defensive two hands like “what did I do”.
Paul Pearl was right there, trying to hold players back so not to lose the coming power play, and the other Holy Cross assistant was right there so if anything like that was said they should have heard it. Pearl did have a few quiet words to saw with Wanye as they shook hands, and there was a bit of an awkward looking tension on both men faces. It makes me wonder what Paul actually heard.

Cameron’s comment on Tweeter did not say racial, but you do suspect that. It had to be something; with all the jawing he does on the ice you would think he had heard it all by now. If something like that was said to him then I give him a little more of a pass. You really hate to see him lose it like that one the ice, but things are not always as they may seem…

As for the quality of the officiating, it’s the same old story, but could even be worst now if they indeed let something like that go. I will give them the benefit of the doubt till/if all the facts come out.

Yes the WITR guys are married to each other, all three of them, which make you feel very sorry for Mrs. Lerch :-D It was funny though to hear Ed and Scott trying to come up with extra material to keep talking about while they waited for Wayne. Oh Randy we could have used you on Saturday Night…

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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Omar Phillips caught this photo for USCHO: http://uscho.photoshelter.com/galle...IT-Phillips/G0000S.pvhDJCX2E/I00004vGsf8Wnv5I

Caption: "Cameron Burt of RIT gives the ref an earful after receiving a game misconduct in the 3rd"

Omar did a nice job on the whole gallery: http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2011/11/19/colavecchias-two-goals-help-rit-hold-off-holy-cross/