>>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

[d4rksabre]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

No big deal

I was worried considering all the injuries they sustained at Buff State. They didn't have a full team practice until Thursday. I'm glad they were able to overcome that to get the W.

 

[LtPowers]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

If I'm reading the tiebreakers correctly, a sweep this weekend vs. Oswego guarantees us the ECAC West title, no matter what happens in Elmira next week. (A Plattsburgh loss at Cortland would mean we only need a split, but how likely is that?)


Powers &8^]

 

[d4rksabre]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

About friggen time.

Oswego played well both games and they earned the win tonight.

 

[OnMAA]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

If I'm reading the tiebreakers correctly, a sweep this weekend vs. Oswego guarantees us the ECAC West title, no matter what happens in Elmira next week. (A Plattsburgh loss at Cortland would mean we only need a split, but how likely is that?)


Powers &8^]

You spoke too soon. There is an old saying, taking it one game at a time.

You could now end up with Elmira beating RIT and Platty cruising home to first place, with RIT in third requiring the extar playoff date. Who would have thunk that just two days ago.

 

[Plugger]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

You spoke too soon. There is an old saying, taking it one game at a time.

You could now end up with Elmira beating RIT and Platty cruising home to first place, with RIT in third requiring the extar playoff date. Who would have thunk that just two days ago.

If Elmira wins, how do they move ahead of RIT with the same record and head to head being even? What is the tie breaker?

 

[OnMAA]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

If Elmira wins, how do they move ahead of RIT with the same record and head to head being even? What is the tie breaker?

From the ECAC D3 West Procedures:

"9.2 Tiebreakers
Tiebreakers (listed in order of application) will be used to determine Women’s
West seeding:
1. Comparison of game results between the tied teams (head-to-head);
2. Number of league wins;
3. Comparison of results against common opponents; and
4. Overall record.
In the case of ties among three or more institutions, the criteria will be used in
order until a team(s) is separated from the pack. At that point, the committee
returns to the first criteria and begins anew to break the “new” tie. In other
words, when a four-way tie becomes a three-way tie, the committee treats the
three-way tie as a “new” tie and starts over with the first criteria."

While it is not specific, presumably the HTH is solved on goal differential, if each team has a 1-1 record HTH. This means Elmira has to win by a better score than 3-1 in the next meeting. If Elmira wins that one with a 2 goal differential, they would presumably go to the overall record tie breakers. Not sure how that would get solved. Not described with enough in detail in the document where the above excerpt was taken from.

 

[gojackets]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

From the ECAC D3 West Procedures:

"9.2 Tiebreakers
Tiebreakers (listed in order of application) will be used to determine Women’s
West seeding:
1. Comparison of game results between the tied teams (head-to-head);
2. Number of league wins;
3. Comparison of results against common opponents; and
4. Overall record.
In the case of ties among three or more institutions, the criteria will be used in
order until a team(s) is separated from the pack. At that point, the committee
returns to the first criteria and begins anew to break the “new” tie. In other
words, when a four-way tie becomes a three-way tie, the committee treats the
three-way tie as a “new” tie and starts over with the first criteria."

While it is not specific, presumably the HTH is solved on goal differential, if each team has a 1-1 record HTH. This means Elmira has to win by a better score than 3-1 in the next meeting. If Elmira wins that one with a 2 goal differential, they would presumably go to the overall record tie breakers. Not sure how that would get solved. Not described with enough in detail in the document where the above excerpt was taken from.

I'd guess that if Elmira were to beat RIT by 2 goals, they would move to the 2nd tie breaker, which would also be tied if Elmira beats Buff State and RIT. So it would go to the third tie breaker, which RIT would win as they beat Amherst, Norwich and tied Plattsburgh twice, where Elmira lost to Norwich, Amherst, and split with Platty

 

[blazer777]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

You spoke too soon. There is an old saying, taking it one game at a time.

Couple more for the Tigers....

Win and you're in!
Control your own destiny!
Trust the force!

Let's bring on the goals down in Pine Valley and move on from there, one game at a time.

Very close in-conference standings, these are.

 

[RIT Fan]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

Win and you're in!

This is all that needs to be said.

 

[LtPowers]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

While it is not specific, presumably the HTH is solved on goal differential, if each team has a 1-1 record HTH.

Why would you assume that? The tiebreakers are exactly as said: if HTH is tied, it goes to #2, which is number of league wins.


Powers &8^]

 

[gojackets]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

Why would you assume that? The tiebreakers are exactly as said: if HTH is tied, it goes to #2, which is number of league wins.


Powers &8^]

It says Comparison of Head to Head results, which is vague. Most other leagues tie breakers have a goal differential in head to head match-up of tied teams. I would think that would fit under comparison of head to head results. Lets say RIT beat Elmira 3-1 and then Elmira beat RIT 6-1, that would say that Elmira > RIT. Granted this discussion is now moot.

 

[LtPowers]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

It says Comparison of Head to Head results, which is vague.

I thought it said "Comparison of game results between the tied teams" (emphasis mine). That would mean "W", "L", or "T", and I think that would be pretty unambiguous.


Powers &8^]

 

[OnMAA]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

This is all that needs to be said.

While that might be true, check your posting sources before you post them. I never said the quote you attibuted to me in any of my postings, so don't put my name with a quote never in any of my postings. Thank you.

 

[OnMAA]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

I thought it said "Comparison of game results between the tied teams" (emphasis mine). That would mean "W", "L", or "T", and I think that would be pretty unambiguous.


Powers &8^]

It does NOT SPECIFICY what "Comparison of Head to Head results" constitutes, so IMO it is a vague description open for interpretation. If it is to be W-L-T only, it should have specified as such.

 

[gojackets]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

It does NOT SPECIFICY what "Comparison of Head to Head results" constitutes, so IMO it is a vague description open for interpretation. If it is to be W-L-T only, it should have specified as such.

The NCHA tie breakers are
1. Results of head to head games
2. Number of NCHA wins
3. Goal Differential in head to head games.

ECAC should really lay it out like that to make it less up to interpretation.

I thought it said "Comparison of game results between the tied teams" (emphasis mine). That would mean "W", "L", or "T", and I think that would be pretty unambiguous.

what i said and you quoted means the same thing. The key is the word comparison. That could mean W-L-T or it could mean W-L-T and who won by more.

As i said before, it doesn't really matter as the best Elmira can do now is third anyway, assuming Plattsburgh wins out.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

While that might be true, check your posting sources before you post them. I never said the quote you attibuted to me in any of my postings, so don't put my name with a quote never in any of my postings. Thank you.

Not their fault. RIT Fan was quoting blazer777, who had quoted you in their post, but only wanted part of it. In the process of deleting the parts of your post they didn't quote, blazer777 had accidentally deleted the [/QUOTE] tag. As a result, when RIT Fan quote blazer777, the "nesting" rule of coding associated the [/QUOTE] tag with the quote-opening tag with your handle in it, resulting in the quote appearing to be from you. No need to snap at anybody for this!

 

[RIT Fan]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

While that might be true, check your posting sources before you post them. I never said the quote you attibuted to me in any of my postings, so don't put my name with a quote never in any of my postings. Thank you.

Relax Mr. Sensitive. If you look at the post i did quote Blazer, but a couple wrong clicks and you got the highlighted quote.

 

[OnMAA]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

Not their fault. RIT Fan was quoting blazer777, who had quoted you in their post, but only wanted part of it. In the process of deleting the parts of your post they didn't quote, blazer777 had accidentally deleted the "end quote" tag. As a result, when RIT Fan quote blazer777, the "nesting" rule of coding associated the "end quote" tag with the quote-opening tag with your handle in it, resulting in the quote appearing to be from you. No need to snap at anybody for this!

Disagree. If you are going to quote someone, get it right, or don't quote.

While this particular quote was not that controverisal, seen more controversial quotes attributed to the wrong person lead to all kinds of wrongly directed flaming wars. It is like spreading false information about individuals.

 

[OnMAA]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

Relax Mr. Sensitive. If you look at the post i did quote Blazer, but a couple wrong clicks and you got the highlighted quote.

Always review my posts after posting it, and make immediate corrections when errors like this pop up in my own posts.

 

[hockeyguy99]

Re: >>>>RIT Tigers 2010-2011<<<<

While that might be true, check your posting sources before you post them. I never said the quote you attibuted to me in any of my postings, so don't put my name with a quote never in any of my postings. Thank you.

Disagree. If you are going to quote someone, get it right, or don't quote.

While this particular quote was not that controverisal, seen more controversial quotes attributed to the wrong person lead to all kinds of wrongly directed flaming wars. It is like spreading false information about individuals.

Always review my posts after posting it, and make immediate corrections when errors like this pop up in my own posts.

Wow, by any chance do you go to Middlebury? Or any other NESCAC school? You sound like one of us.