>>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

[mdumont]

Re: Authentic RIT Jerseys

Re: Authentic RIT Jerseys

Question would be do these jerseys have the Frozen Four Patch on them, if they do one would think RIT would auction those off...

The information I got from Jeff Siegel was the following:

The home jerseys this year are being given as a gift to all of the players on the team to commemorate their accomplishments this season.

There were a few of the white home jerseys from last year left over that belonged to this years senior class. These were saved to give to them as a gift at the end of the season, but this is no longer happening. They were available for $175 and I believe the only one remaining as of Monday or Tuesday was Mazur's.

The players were being given the option to purchase the orange jersey with the patch for $250. After this they would be sold to the people on the list. From what I've heard, over half the team wants to purchase their orange jersey as well, and I know the list already has a fair number of people on it, so it looks like they're pretty much all claimed at this point.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

The other part of this is that the first round of the playoffs will be done within those groups, that is the bottom four in each region will have a single-game elimination within that region. So not only will a team want to finish in the top four in the league, but it will want to be in the top two in its region.

Do they then re-seed for the subsequent rounds? Boy, this is a little confusing... and quite un-balanced. Finishing in the top two in the West division will not be an easy task for anyone seing as how potentially 6 of the top 7 or 8 teams in the conference are all in the same division. Just about all of the West teams could finish in the top two in the East, easily. (at least based on the past coule of years' results)

 

[cplinford]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Do they then re-seed for the subsequent rounds? Boy, this is a little confusing... and quite un-balanced. Finishing in the top two in the West division will not be an easy task for anyone seing as how potentially 6 of the top 7 or 8 teams in the conference are all in the same division. Just about all of the West teams could finish in the top two in the East, easily. (at least based on the past coule of years' results)

EASTERN BIAS!

 

[MattS]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

It's a horrible setup for scheduling, fairness, and playoff seeding. I guess travel cost containment was the #1 priority and to hell with everything else.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Army and Sacred Heart would appear to have an advantage under the new scheduling system, although it's fortunately only a five-game difference.


Powers &8^]

"...only five-game difference." is worth 10 points and could have had SHU tied with RIT atop the standings this season.

 

[LtPowers]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

The other part of this is that the first round of the playoffs will be done within those groups, that is the bottom four in each region will have a single-game elimination within that region. So not only will a team want to finish in the top four in the league, but it will want to be in the top two in its region.

That's madness. I thought the division was for scheduling only. It shouldn't affect playoff match-ups at all.

Sure, I bet the eastern teams love it, but how'd they get this past the western teams?


Powers &8^]

 

[Spydey629]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

The other part of this is that the first round of the playoffs will be done within those groups, that is the bottom four in each region will have a single-game elimination within that region. So not only will a team want to finish in the top four in the league, but it will want to be in the top two in its region.

So it is possible (however unlikely) that the 7th and 8th best teams in the standings could get a bye for the first-round of the playoffs??

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Do they then re-seed for the subsequent rounds? Boy, this is a little confusing... and quite un-balanced. Finishing in the top two in the West division will not be an easy task for anyone seing as how potentially 6 of the top 7 or 8 teams in the conference are all in the same division. Just about all of the West teams could finish in the top two in the East, easily. (at least based on the past coule of years' results)

Yes, they reseed if I understood the conversations in the Detroit Marriott bar correctly after a few beers... And now consider this possible scenario -- a team could get a bye in the first round, yet be on the road in the second round. Try explaining that to the casual fan of that team. Makes explaining the NCAA selection process seem easy...

 

[Spydey629]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Yes, they reseed if I understood the conversations in the Detroit Marriott bar correctly after a few beers... And now consider this possible scenario -- a team could get a bye in the first round, yet be on the road in the second round. Try explaining that to the casual fan of that team. Makes explaining the NCAA selection process seem easy...

Wish I was downstairs for that conversation...

Then I guess the question is why not just do divisions in the first place?

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Then I guess the question is why not just do divisions in the first place?

That was my feeling. But by then, I had another beer and couldn't frame the question...

 

[NYTrojan]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

It was my understanding from the time the announcement of the expansion occurred that the league would be splitting in two for scheduling purposes only (not for standings): Air Force, Robert Morris, Mercyhurst, Canisius, Niagara, and RIT in one scheduling cluster and Army, Sacred Heart, AIC, Connecticut, Bentley, and Holy Cross in the other.
Powers &8^]

Is it me or are those clusters painfully unbalanced competitively speaking

 

[Mania]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Is it me or are those clusters painfully unbalanced competitively speaking

They are...at least at this point in time. If they are going to do that I think they should give the top 2 for each division "auto bids" and then pick the rest at-large.

 

[dutchbrowncoat]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Dan Ringwald is named to the USCHO second team:

http://www.uscho.com/news/id,18608/USCHOAwardsWisconsinGetsTwoFirstTeamers.html

that is pretty awesome. i don't even think lambert got onto that list, though he did get hobey consideration.

 

[dutchbrowncoat]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Is it me or are those clusters painfully unbalanced competitively speaking

that is putting it nicely!

the two newcomers are by consensus expected to slot near the top of the conference already making it slightly unfair. but then consider that the group of RIT, Air Force, Mercyhurst, and Canisius had more wins (64) betweeen them than the group of Army, Sacred Heart, AIC, UConn, Bentley, and Holy Cross (56), even with Sacred Heart's very strong season. (edit: if you prefer points, the totals stand at 142-138 for the 4 and 6 cluster respectively)

so 4 teams with more wins than 6 teams are all put into the same cluster with the two challenging newcomers? i call shenanigans. but screw it, maybe the hockey pundits will actually take notice of this imbalance and we can actually get ranked when we win the conference again.

 

[RITProf]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Do these two divisions in AHA smell like the future birth of two conferences from one to anyone else???

I would guess there would have to be at least two more teams to come along to make that happen, or perhaps this is some of the seeds of the rumored future shakeup of DI hockey conferences.

Or, I'm on my second beer and fabricating everything.

Great news on Ringwald. Any news on his next step? I had assumed he would have signed somewhere right away.

 

[Mania]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Great news on Ringwald. Any news on his next step? I had assumed he would have signed somewhere right away.

Isn't he still working on school?

 

[LtPowers]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Do these two divisions in AHA smell like the future birth of two conferences from one to anyone else???

I would guess there would have to be at least two more teams to come along to make that happen, or perhaps this is some of the seeds of the rumored future shakeup of DI hockey conferences.

Yes, that scenario certainly makes itself obvious from the current situation.

I believe six teams is enough for an autobid, so technically no additional teams would be needed. If a split were to take place, obviously the eastern division would keep the Atlantic Hockey name, so the Western division would have to get a new name. I hear "College Hockey America" is available. =) And with Air Force, Niagara, BobbyMo, and probably UAH too, it'd look much the same anyway.

The drawback to a spinoff conference is the two-year wait for the autobid, which means it's actually the eastern division that's more likely to split off. If, after a few years, none of them have won the AHA autobid, they may consider a secession to ensure a tournament berth; in that case, waiting two years for the autobid is no different from staying in the AHA and not getting the autobid.

 

[Spydey629]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Yes, that scenario certainly makes itself obvious from the current situation.

I believe six teams is enough for an autobid, so technically no additional teams would be needed. If a split were to take place, obviously the eastern division would keep the Atlantic Hockey name, so the Western division would have to get a new name. I hear "College Hockey America" is available. =) And with Air Force, Niagara, BobbyMo, and probably UAH too, it'd look much the same anyway.

The drawback to a spinoff conference is the two-year wait for the autobid, which means it's actually the eastern division that's more likely to split off. If, after a few years, none of them have won the AHA autobid, they may consider a secession to ensure a tournament berth; in that case, waiting two years for the autobid is no different from staying in the AHA and not getting the autobid.

The odd part is that Air Force will probably want to stay with Army. If Syracuse were to add a Men's team, AFA could very well stay in the Atlantic and the "Great Lakes Conference" (or whatever) could come from the remaining five + the 'Cuse, or whatever school adds a program.

 

[Bing]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Great news on Ringwald. Any news on his next step? I had assumed he would have signed somewhere right away.

I had the pleasure of sitting behind Chris Tanev's mom during Saturday's FF game. She informed me that Ringwald was supposed to be picked up by the Amerks but couldn't because of his FF appearance. In case people don't know, Carl Hudson from Canisius is playing for the Amerks now. Supposedly he took Dan's spot.

 

[RITProf]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

So if Hudson took a potential Amerks spot, it might make sense that Ringwald is waiting until next season to find a open AHA-level spot (and finish his MBA). It seems "in character" for him to wait it out for the best opportunity.

If he did end up an Amerk, that would probably be enough to get me to go to a few Amerks games next year. Especially if they played Hershey ...