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Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
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mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
I'm a little bit Memphis and Nashville
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
Children with toy guns being shot by the police is nothing new. These sorts of stories were making a lot of headlines back in the 80's and into the 90's. Toy makers were able to produce more and moe lifelike toys to the point that officers couldn't tell them from the real thing when viewed at a distance. That's when toy makers started adding the blaze orange and red tips to the nozzles of their lifelike guns. (Such a feature might have become law, I don't recall that precisely.)
So now this kid has a lifelike gun and someone - be it the kid, a friend, or a family memeber - remove that telltale nozzle from the toy and we're discussing this like it's not something that's happened before.
When it comes to this shooting, there was no party in the right. The Cleveland cop was too twitchy and the child and/or his family didn't keep his toy safe. We're repeating history.
Children with toy guns being shot by the police is nothing new. These sorts of stories were making a lot of headlines back in the 80's and into the 90's. Toy makers were able to produce more and moe lifelike toys to the point that officers couldn't tell them from the real thing when viewed at a distance. That's when toy makers started adding the blaze orange and red tips to the nozzles of their lifelike guns. (Such a feature might have become law, I don't recall that precisely.)
So now this kid has a lifelike gun and someone - be it the kid, a friend, or a family memeber - remove that telltale nozzle from the toy and we're discussing this like it's not something that's happened before.
When it comes to this shooting, there was no party in the right. The Cleveland cop was too twitchy and the child and/or his family didn't keep his toy safe. We're repeating history.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
Seriously
I think we've all seen Die Hard
Seriously
I think we've all seen Die Hard
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
The Die Hard bit just came to me as I started writing. It's just one of those things where this very situation seeped into entertainment media and is relevant to the point I was making.
I would hope so. If not, turn in your jock strap for a tutu, missy!
The Die Hard bit just came to me as I started writing. It's just one of those things where this very situation seeped into entertainment media and is relevant to the point I was making.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
One of my favorite Christmas movies.
I would hope so. If not, turn in your jock strap for a tutu, missy!
One of my favorite Christmas movies.
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
I am 100% okay with a double standard for cops at grand juries. If we didn't have a different standard for cops, every cop who ever arrests (or even detains) somebody would be guilty of assault, kidnapping, unlawful imprisonment, etc. We *expect* cops to act differently than other citizens - we *pay* them to act differently. How in the world, then, would it make sense to hold them accountable to the same standard? That makes no sense to me at all.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
The general public has a higher arrest rate than NFL players - neither of which has anything to do with posters insisting cops are predominantly dirty. Unfortunately, some of them are and when they screw up they should be punished.
The general public has a higher arrest rate than NFL players - neither of which has anything to do with posters insisting cops are predominantly dirty. Unfortunately, some of them are and when they screw up they should be punished.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
2nd on my list behind Trading Places
One of my favorite Christmas movies.
2nd on my list behind Trading Places
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
What's your solution:
1. Riot and loot
2. Hate all cops becuz
3. Whine
4. ...
There are shi##y cops out there, but unfortunately none of the dialogue coming from people like you is about a solution - it's about making as much NOISE (useless chatter not volume) as possible without actually working toward an end goal. What exactly do you propose? Bad cops should be outed whether they're dirty, racist or just a danger to civilians. The same could be said about every other profession on the planet - get rid of 'em. Yet instead of sending a message that all cops suck, reach across the aisle to suggest we need to work this out together while at the same time expressing dismay over the fact that so many youth (black, white, Hispanic, Asian) find it necessary to commit crimes, disrespect authority figures of all kinds and lead completely unproductive lives. Instead of saying cops are solely responsible for what's happening in the streets, recognize and publicize that it's a two-way street that requires a multi-faceted approach.
Or we could resort to threads like, "bad cop, bad cop..." and see where it leads us.
What's your solution:
1. Riot and loot
2. Hate all cops becuz
3. Whine
4. ...
There are shi##y cops out there, but unfortunately none of the dialogue coming from people like you is about a solution - it's about making as much NOISE (useless chatter not volume) as possible without actually working toward an end goal. What exactly do you propose? Bad cops should be outed whether they're dirty, racist or just a danger to civilians. The same could be said about every other profession on the planet - get rid of 'em. Yet instead of sending a message that all cops suck, reach across the aisle to suggest we need to work this out together while at the same time expressing dismay over the fact that so many youth (black, white, Hispanic, Asian) find it necessary to commit crimes, disrespect authority figures of all kinds and lead completely unproductive lives. Instead of saying cops are solely responsible for what's happening in the streets, recognize and publicize that it's a two-way street that requires a multi-faceted approach.
Or we could resort to threads like, "bad cop, bad cop..." and see where it leads us.
trixR4kids
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Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
The solution is hiring better qualified people and providing better training as far as deescalation techniques. If other countries can figure this out surely ours could too.
The solution is hiring better qualified people and providing better training as far as deescalation techniques. If other countries can figure this out surely ours could too.
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
And we can look at facts in these situations instead of seeing two opposing people who happen to be of a different color, and automatically think "Racism!" Sometimes it IS just a case of right/wrong. I would like to believe that it is a majority of the time. I wish it was all the time, but that is wishful thinking.
And we can look at facts in these situations instead of seeing two opposing people who happen to be of a different color, and automatically think "Racism!" Sometimes it IS just a case of right/wrong. I would like to believe that it is a majority of the time. I wish it was all the time, but that is wishful thinking.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
"We want dead cops", or whatever they've been heard chanting in NY? And the words expressed by the dirtbag that murdered the cops who just wanted his life to we'd because he was going nowhere? And that cops are protecting the cop hating demonstrators from those that don't appreciate their message? And then you have idiots line the mayor of New York fueling the rhetoric. Makes me sick.
"We want dead cops", or whatever they've been heard chanting in NY? And the words expressed by the dirtbag that murdered the cops who just wanted his life to we'd because he was going nowhere? And that cops are protecting the cop hating demonstrators from those that don't appreciate their message? And then you have idiots line the mayor of New York fueling the rhetoric. Makes me sick.
unofan
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Please tell me what the mayor did to encourage cop killing. Because from where I'm sitting, that's a bunch of b.s. created by the head of the nypd's union.
bigblue_dl
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
I believe the answer involves Isaac Hayes and Harry Dean Stanton.
But it's not an argument. "We need them therefore they can do no wrong" is never an argument.
I believe the answer involves Isaac Hayes and Harry Dean Stanton.
But it's not an argument. "We need them therefore they can do no wrong" is never an argument.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
"Life dealt them a bad hand" is never an argument either.
"Life dealt them a bad hand" is never an argument either.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Riots and Racists and Looting...OH MY!!!
People would turn to self protection, whatever that might be. Vigilanteism would spike, for a few hours, maybe a day, before the governor had the State Patrol and later the National Guard on the streets. The city would not be simply left to the rabble.
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