Regional Rankings

[Bartman]

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I still think the UNE v. Hobart relative ranking is a mystery since geography seemed the priority for the first round. In the past I don't think they even published the final RR, but I think football did it this year for transparency.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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I wonder if Fish still thinks the AQ is worthless ��

To Fish's credit, he's been consistent to even saying that even if his team benefited from an AQ, he still thinks it's wrong.

 

[sshablak]

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??????

 

[Ronnieb]

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So based on the meaningless rankings, I guess there actually needs to be post season scrimmages to determine the real national champion.

 

[altazo]

So what is the deal here? This conference is regarded as the best just because of two schools? This Marian pick makes little to zero sense to me here...

I agree the pick is surprising, but here are a couple points:
- Marian was a 20 game winner coming out of one of the toughest conferences in the nation. They did beat Point at Point.
- Maybe the committee felt strongly that SNC, Adrian, and Point were three of the top four overall seeds and all deserved byes to the quarterfinal round, but Augsburg did not.
- They thought the West was generally stronger than the East this season.

 

[ColdInRomney]

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How many of the distances are more than 500 miles?

Fitchburg- Nichols: 45 miles
Colby- UNE: 97 miles
Hobart- Geneseo: 49 miles
Augsburg- Marian: 300 miles

 

[Bartman]

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I agree the pick is surprising, but here are a couple points:
- Marian was a 20 game winner coming out of one of the toughest conferences in the nation. They did beat Point at Point.
- Maybe the committee felt strongly that SNC, Adrian, and Point were three of the top four overall seeds and all deserved byes to the quarterfinal round, but Augsburg did not.
- They thought the West was generally stronger than the East this season.

This makes the most sense, but tough to swallow for some of the East teams....It will be interesting to see how Marian performs.

 

[802Hockey]

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they thought this last season and look how the games played out....

 

[802Hockey]

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Biggest issue to me is this. Marian just got out shot 38 to 12 against St. Norbert in their conference semifinals.... 38 to 12!!! You would never see the number 1 seed in the east outshoot the number 5 seed in the east that terribly and the NCAA should never want an NCAA quarterfinal that could result in such an absurd shot ratio.

 

[802Hockey]

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Biggest issue to me is this. Marian just got out shot 38 to 12 against St. Norbert in their conference semifinals.... 38 to 12!!! You would never see the number 1 seed in the east outshoot the number 5 seed in the east that terribly and the NCAA should never want an NCAA quarterfinal that could result in such an absurd shot ratio.

I'm aware all of this is moot in the selections and all... Just thinking out loud here.

 

[Tom Coughlin]

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This makes the most sense, but tough to swallow for some of the East teams....It will be interesting to see how Marian performs.

They will play Augsburg tough. If they win on Saturday I don't expect them to give SNC much trouble, but then again that's why they play the game.

 

[GB Puck Fan]

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They will play Augsburg tough. If they win on Saturday I don't expect them to give SNC much trouble, but then again that's why they play the game.

Of course, SNC also lost to Northland (9-13-3) along the way ... I'm not counting any chickens...

 

[ColdInRomney]

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Biggest issue to me is this. Marian just got out shot 38 to 12 against St. Norbert in their conference semifinals.... 38 to 12!!! You would never see the number 1 seed in the east outshoot the number 5 seed in the east that terribly and the NCAA should never want an NCAA quarterfinal that could result in such an absurd shot ratio.

Yeah, if pigs could fly. Not being a poor sport here but in those last three losses (ouch) Oswego outshot opponents 111-46 and arguably clearly outplayed all three. But the pucks didn't get across the line.

 

[spwood]

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Yeah, if pigs could fly. Not being a poor sport here but in those last three losses (ouch) Oswego outshot opponents 111-46 and arguably clearly outplayed all three. But the pucks didn't get across the line.

Once is a hot goalie against, twice you start to wonder. Three times in a row? That's more than just bad luck...

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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Fitchburg- Nichols: 45 miles
Colby- UNE: 97 miles
Hobart- Geneseo: 49 miles
Augsburg- Marian: 300 miles

NUProf was referring to the distances of what the matchups should have been had they not worried about geography and just seedings.

But you do point out that all the eastern matchups do not require overnight lodging costs...

 

[Bartman]

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Yeah, if pigs could fly. Not being a poor sport here but in those last three losses (ouch) Oswego outshot opponents 111-46 and arguably clearly outplayed all three. But the pucks didn't get across the line.

Totally understand your frustration, similar to Hobart MBB, won LL by 4 games but lost last regular season to Union by 3 points although stayed ranked #1 in the East RR but lost in semis of LL tourney(again by 3 points) and got bounced from the entire NCAA tournament, of course a lot more regions but also a lot more teams in MBB and selections were definitely slanted towards the west. The NCAA works in mysterious ways.

 

[nefan]

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It would appear to be:
1. Salve Regina
2. UNE
3. Hobart
4. Geneseo
5. Colby
6/7. Fitchburg / Nichols

1 v. 6/7
2 v. 5
3 v. 4

That would be my guess. And I see the NCAA stat sheets on NCAA.com are from 3/31/17.

Has anyone seen the actual seedings for the East and West? Curious to see if UNE or Hobart will be the home team if they both win??

 

[Bartman]

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Has anyone seen the actual seedings for the East and West? Curious to see if UNE or Hobart will be the home team if they both win??

Regionals just released at NCAA.com and UNE has #2 and Hobart #3.....this is good for Hobart as they love to play on the road to loud fans(just ask the Cadets), more concerned about home game against Genny

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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Regionals just released at NCAA.com and UNE has #2 and Hobart #3.....this is good for Hobart as they love to play on the road to loud fans(just ask the Cadets), more concerned about home game against Genny

So, if UNE losses, the winner of Hobart/Geneseo hosts the quarterfinals.

EDIT: Nothing against UNE, but that means I'm rooting for Colby. After all, it gets me to go to another playoff game...

 

[Bartman]

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Yes, that makes sense...and Colby is on a roll. Hobart has proven that home ice is not that critical as the Statesmen have lost the last 3 years at home giving Geneseo confidence, no doubt.