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Quinnipiac Bobcats 2015-16 - The post-season journey...

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DownOnTheFarm said:
Why don't you think UConn could be as great of a rivalry as Yale? Set aside 2013, Keith Allain doesn't view it as a rivalry, the Yale Alumni and students could care less about going to the games, Quinnipiac seems like the only ones that truly look at it as an absolute rivalry. Maybe I am out of touch with this but I hate Yale for many other reasons than being a Quinnipiac fan.
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Because they're an hour away, and they've never really been an equal. I mean, I guess it would be a rivalry, but it wouldn't be the visceral rivalry Yale is.

And Keith Allain can say it's not a rivalry all he wants, his actions during and after matchups against Quinnipiac indicate otherwise. It's a rivalry -- a really, really good rivalry -- and the best game played on the QU campus all year. Would be tough to give that up. To be honest, losing the annual Yale game is one of the biggest reasons I'd want to stay in the ECAC. That's what makes this such a tough call, IMO.
 
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sshablak said:
Maybe I missed it but I'd love to see the hit on Anas from last weekend.
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Best I could find.
<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Five minute major on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Harvard?src=hash">#Harvard</a>'s Esposito. Brutal hit on Anas. Pecknold wants him out of the game. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ECACHockey?src=hash">#ECACHockey</a> <a href="https://t.co/q9AoOJSVFc">pic.twitter.com/q9AoOJSVFc</a></p>— Morey Hershgordon (@mahhersh) <a href="https://twitter.com/mahhersh/status/711344349964079105">March 20, 2016</a></blockquote>
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ZYanksRule said:
Because they're an hour away, and they've never really been an equal. I mean, I guess it would be a rivalry, but it wouldn't be the visceral rivalry Yale is.

And Keith Allain can say it's not a rivalry all he wants, his actions during and after matchups against Quinnipiac indicate otherwise. It's a rivalry -- a really, really good rivalry -- and the best game played on the QU campus all year. Would be tough to give that up. To be honest, losing the annual Yale game is one of the biggest reasons I'd want to stay in the ECAC. That's what makes this such a tough call, IMO.
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I love the Yale rivalry, so we should keep it up.
 
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DownOnTheFarm said:
I love the Yale rivalry, so we should keep it up.
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You don't realize what you've got until it's gone. Listen, Hockey East would be a great step for the program. It really would. It's hard to be a national powerhouse in the ECAC. Just ask Cornell, who was there for a number of years, and is now on harder times. It's hard in Hockey East, too, but perhaps it's a little easier because the league has a little more respect nationally. So I think Hockey East would be a great move for the program, but we'd lose something in the Yale game every year.
 
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ZYanksRule said:
You don't realize what you've got until it's gone. Listen, Hockey East would be a great step for the program. It really would. It's hard to be a national powerhouse in the ECAC. Just ask Cornell, who was there for a number of years, and is now on harder times. It's hard in Hockey East, too, but perhaps it's a little easier because the league has a little more respect nationally. So I think Hockey East would be a great move for the program, but we'd lose something in the Yale game every year.
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Moving to HE and being in the top tier would require higher end recruits aka more of the one and done's or guys that stay two years and leave. I am not sure that is something Rand wants to have when building a program. I think he has to like having consistency with guys that stay 3-4 years.
 
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We keep talking about the Yale game as a reason to stay in the ECAC. I hope everyone realizes how ridiculous that sounds. Look I dont like Yale, but there's no bigger power trip we could give them then saying "HE would be amazing for the program, but I don't want to give up the Yale game". Yale is a more one sided rivalry, it's true. The school, professors, students, alumni, and community gets behind Q while Yale hockey fans get behind Yale. Allain hates Q probably as much as I hate him but do you think Yale would consider losing the "Heroes Hat game" over shifting conferences for the betterment of their school/program. He's not that stupid and neither are Lahey or Rand. If Q goes to HE it will be to gain more national prominence. If Q stays in ECAC it wont be to assure the Yale game happens twice a year. Let's move on from the Yale aspect of it cause it makes us look "thirsty".
 
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ZYanksRule said:
You don't realize what you've got until it's gone. Listen, Hockey East would be a great step for the program. It really would. It's hard to be a national powerhouse in the ECAC. Just ask Cornell, who was there for a number of years, and is now on harder times. It's hard in Hockey East, too, but perhaps it's a little easier because the league has a little more respect nationally. So I think Hockey East would be a great move for the program, but we'd lose something in the Yale game every year.
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Couldn't agree more. Time for Pecknold and Q Pac to move on and align w/ its New England brethren while ECAC finds a more compatible institution such as HC or RIT
 
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In any industry, it's helpful to all the participants in that industry to have at least one firm that is a fierce and unrelenting competitor !!! The effect of having such a competitor is to raise the level of competitiveness for all the firms in the industry and makes the industry stronger. Quinnipiac is good for the ECAC. They are a finely tuned mache designed to knock off other ECAC teams and that is their focus.

In the 1950's and the 1960's in major league baseball, no one liked those "****ed New York Yankees" either. It's just that no one could beat them.

I say keep them. They will make us all more competitive. Plus they have good looking cheerleaders :D
 
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You guys realize that Q could schedule Yale as a non-conference game every year, right?
 
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Dutchman said:
In any industry, it's helpful to all the participants in that industry to have at least one firm that is a fierce and unrelenting competitor !!! The effect of having such a competitor is to raise the level of competitiveness for all the firms in the industry and makes the industry stronger. Quinnipiac is good for the ECAC. They are a finely tuned mache designed to knock off other ECAC teams and that is their focus.

In the 1950's and the 1960's in major league baseball, no one liked those "****ed New York Yankees" either. It's just that no one could beat them.

I say keep them. They will make us all more competitive. Plus they have good looking cheerleaders :D
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i like this post
 
QUAlum2004 said:
Moving to HE and being in the top tier would require higher end recruits aka more of the one and done's or guys that stay two years and leave. I am not sure that is something Rand wants to have when building a program. I think he has to like having consistency with guys that stay 3-4 years.
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I keep seeing this one and done thing and am a bit confused where it's coming from. PC and Lowell have seniors. BC and BU have seniors. Besides Eichel there isn't a one and done that comes to mind. A few two and dones sure, but most schools aren't recruiting them assuch
 
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I don't think there would be much of an advantage for Q to join HEA from a competition standpoint. They're consistently dominant in a league that has won two of the last three national championships. They make the tournament every year and are generally considered to be one of college hockey's elite. In HEA, they might not be quite as dominant amongst the likes of BC, PC, Lowell and BU.

However, if they prioritize branding, there is no contest. It's HEA or bust.

Edit: wanted to clarify that I think the ECAC is a tougher league top-to-bottom, while Hockey East has more elite teams at the top.
 
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QUAlum2004 said:
You only bolt if you are going to commit to being among the elite of HE with BC, BU and others. If they are a middle of the road HE team it doesn't make sense at all to make the move.
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Agreed, and a Q alum would know better than I but from the outside it sure looks like Q has already shown they are fully committed to building their national (or at least regional) profile by winning hockey games. That is, in a nutshell, what's giving the ECAC agita, since it's a knee in the groin to the "doctors shouldn't advertise please pass the buttered scones mater" Victoriana of the conference culture.

Q is in many ways far more modern than the ECAC, for good or ill. Their drive would not just be accepted by HE but would be recognized as just plain horse sense. Nor is it completely at odds with building a decent academic reputation, as BC (and for that matter Notre Dame) attest.
 
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BigAl said:
We keep talking about the Yale game as a reason to stay in the ECAC. I hope everyone realizes how ridiculous that sounds. Look I dont like Yale, but there's no bigger power trip we could give them then saying "HE would be amazing for the program, but I don't want to give up the Yale game". Yale is a more one sided rivalry, it's true. The school, professors, students, alumni, and community gets behind Q while Yale hockey fans get behind Yale. Allain hates Q probably as much as I hate him but do you think Yale would consider losing the "Heroes Hat game" over shifting conferences for the betterment of their school/program. He's not that stupid and neither are Lahey or Rand. If Q goes to HE it will be to gain more national prominence. If Q stays in ECAC it wont be to assure the Yale game happens twice a year. Let's move on from the Yale aspect of it cause it makes us look "thirsty".
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In all honesty, I don't think Yale thinks about Q at all. They don't think about us either and we have 12 conference titles and have until recently kicked their sorry butts up and down the conference for 40 years. They don't think about anybody but THEIR PRECIOUS.
 
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Kepler said:
In all honesty, I don't think Yale thinks about Q at all. They don't think about us either and we have 12 conference titles and have until recently kicked their sorry butts up and down the conference for 40 years. They don't think about anybody but THEIR PRECIOUS.
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Sometimes we think about how much Princeton sucks, too.
 
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