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Quinnipiac Bobcats '12-'13 - Go fourth and conquer!

Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats '12-'13 - Go fourth and conquer!

LTsatch said:
Classy to admit it, was not going to rain on the QU parade but the 2 of the 3 powerplay goals by QU were from iffy calls. It was older men against boys tonight though. When boys get spanked they lose composure.
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That being said, you have to expect terrible officiating in the ECAC. It is what it is.
 
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats '12-'13 - Go fourth and conquer!

nice win by you guys especially after the early deficit. I had this game on the CHN site keeping up with what was going on as i was watching UNH-MC. Yale skated circles around us (BC) and we were lucky to tie them at home . I was very impressed with the Eli so doing that to them on their home ice i think is more validation that this is a REALLY good team. Good luck the rest of the way
 
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ZYanksRule said:
The biggest one was when the Yale player was skating off injured, and Langlois hits him away from the puck. Should have been interference (and, considering the kid was hurt, was a little bit dirty and very nasty), then the Yale kid takes a swing at Langlois. Of course, the Yale kid is the one that goes to the box.
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LTsatch said:
Classy to admit it, was not going to rain on the QU parade but the 2 of the 3 powerplay goals by QU were from iffy calls.
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If you watch the replay (2:11:33 - 2:11:45) it looks like the right call. As Fallen was slowly skating up ice (he was moving down the center of the ice, not towards the bench), the puck came back into Yale's end and was being played by Miller. Langlois circled around to pursue him and Fallen was between them (and within a stick length of the puck). Langer appeared to pull up but still made incidental contact and Fallen whacked him pretty good in the mid section with his stick. I saw nothing intentional, dirty, or nasty on Langers part, other than he made contact with a kid supposedly injured.

Now, the initial hit on Fallen behind the net looked questionable but the ref was right there and didn't call it. Looked to me like Fallen was trying to sell it and then got his panties bunched up when no call was made. It even looks like he might be saying something to Langlois as he's smacking his stick on the ice.

I realize my blue and gold colored glasses may obscure a thing or two, but that whole sequence was indicative of Yale's play in the last half of the game. They tried to get physical but got chippy instead and it cost them. They came close to losing all composure later in the 3rd as well.
 
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MarkEagleUSA said:
If you watch the replay (2:11:33 - 2:11:45) it looks like the right call. As Fallen was slowly skating up ice (he was moving down the center of the ice, not towards the bench), the puck came back into Yale's end and was being played by Miller. Langlois circled around to pursue him and Fallen was between them (and within a stick length of the puck). Langer appeared to pull up but still made incidental contact and Fallen whacked him pretty good in the mid section with his stick. I saw nothing intentional, dirty, or nasty on Langers part, other than he made contact with a kid supposedly injured.

Now, the initial hit on Fallen behind the net looked questionable but the ref was right there and didn't call it. Looked to me like Fallen was trying to sell it and then got his panties bunched up when no call was made. It even looks like he might be saying something to Langlois as he's smacking his stick on the ice.

I realize my blue and gold colored glasses may obscure a thing or two, but that whole sequence was indicative of Yale's play in the last half of the game. They tried to get physical but got chippy instead and it cost them. They came close to losing all composure later in the 3rd as well.
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I have no dog in this fight, so you can't blame it on the color of my glasses, and was watching online when this occurred. If your scenario is supposedly correct, why was the refs hand up before Fallen even retaliated? You have refs that can see the future? I thought each was going to go and was very surprised only Fallen got called. He wasn't attempting to play the puck at the time then gets hit from behind. I thought the ref was calling interference, then thought Fallen would possibly get the retaliation slash. But didn't necessarily expect it, given he appeared injured when an opponent hit him (which looked cheap), so I thought the ref might even ignore the retaliation.
 
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Koho said:
If your scenario is supposedly correct, why was the refs hand up before Fallen even retaliated?
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After watching the replay, I believe the ref was calling interference on Fallen due to being in Langlois' path to the puck, and the retaliation was ignored. If Fallen was as injured as his perfomance indicated, he should have skated towards the bench and not stayed in the middle of the ice... he clearly re-engaged on the play. Also, as he came out from behind the net he was visibly upset when he smacked his stick on the ice.

Again, I don't think that hit by Langlois was bad, but the initial one on Fallen behind the net that started the whole sequnce was certainly borderline and probably should have been called.

You have refs that can see the future?
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They're ECAC refs... they're capable of anything! ;)
 
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MarkEagleUSA said:
After watching the replay, I believe the ref was calling interference on Fallen due to being in Langlois' path to the puck, and the retaliation was ignored. If Fallen was as injured as his perfomance indicated, he should have skated towards the bench and not stayed in the middle of the ice... he clearly re-engaged on the play. Also, as he came out from behind the net he was visibly upset when he smacked his stick on the ice.

Again, I don't think that hit by Langlois was bad, but the initial one on Fallen behind the net that started the whole sequnce was certainly borderline and probably should have been called.

They're ECAC refs... they're capable of anything! ;)
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Take you (whatever colors you team is) colored glasses off. Watch it by hitting the pause and play button so it is essentially slow motion. Fallen doesn't even see the Q player coming, so unless the rules have changed so the current definition of interference includes skating slowly in one direction and then getting run into from behind by a guy you didn't see coming, I don't think you got this guess at the call correct either. It was a bad call. Your team easily won. Accept you got a break on that call but that it didn't matter given the final score.

And yes, the check from behind the net on Fallon was a cross check. So a guy gets cross-checked in the back. Gets up and starts to slowly skate out when another guy runs into him from behind when the puck is 10 feet away. The ref raises his arm, then the guy slashes back, and the guy getting hit twice gets the only penalty. Not fair officiating on this play. Refs aren't perfect. But fans who can watch the replay need to be able to acknowledge when they are wrong.
 
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Koho said:
It was a bad call. Your team easily won. Accept you got a break on that call but that it didn't matter given the final score.
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I can't begin to know what the ref was thinking but based on the wording of the interference rule it seems to indicate it was a proper call.

Rule 59 - Interference
59.1 Interference - A player (Fallen) shall not interfere with or impede the progress of an opponent (Langlois) who is not in possession of the puck, deliberately knock a stick out of an opponent’s hand, prevent a player who has dropped the stick, or any other piece of equipment, from regaining possession of it or knock or shoot any abandoned or broken stick or illegal puck or other debris toward an opposing puck carrier in a manner that could cause the player to be distracted. Waving of arms in front of a goalkeeper by an opponent is interference.

PENALTY—Minor.

Note: The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. In interpreting this rule, a referee should make sure which of the players is the one creating the interference — often it is the action and movement of the attacking player that causes the interference since the defending players are entitled to stand their ground or shadow the attacking players. Players of the team in possession (Yale) shall not be allowed to run interference for the puck carrier.
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The call was made (and wasn't even argued by Fallen or the Yale bench) but it had no bearing on the outcome of the game.

But fans who can watch the replay need to be able to acknowledge when they are wrong.
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I never said I was right... just gave my opinion after seeing the replay.
 
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats '12-'13 - Go fourth and conquer!

All, please stop the itching about the refs!

Nothing is more boring than talking about officiating! Particularly in a 6-2 game.

Let's celebrate the win for a day or two, then begin to prepare for the weekend at Cornell/Colgate.

Saturday, was one of, if not the best win in QU's short D-I history.

It was an incredible atmosphere at Yale, and the reason why we all love college sports, especially ice hockey!
 
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MarkEagleUSA said:
I can't begin to know what the ref was thinking but based on the wording of the interference rule it seems to indicate it was a proper call.



The call was made (and wasn't even argued by Fallen or the Yale bench) but it had no bearing on the outcome of the game.

I never said I was right... just gave my opinion after seeing the replay.
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I obviously won't change your mind, but let me ask you this?
1. Do you think intent is implied in that language?
2. If you don't think intent was implied, how many times in a game do you think one player runs into another when the one ran-into took no action to cause it? And why isn't interference called every time?
3. If you think intent is implied, does Fallon have a rear-view camera in his helmut and knew where your boy was headed? Because he never saw the Q player coming and didn't move into his way. (Is there anyone else who actually thinks getting run into by a guy you didn't see is the intent of the interference rule?)
4. When Fallon was first standing around on the ice waiting for the powerplay and then was yelling as he went into the box, you think he was just saying "hi",to someone?
 
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MarkEagleUSA said:
I can't begin to know what the ref was thinking but based on the wording of the interference rule it seems to indicate it was a proper call.



The call was made (and wasn't even argued by Fallen or the Yale bench) but it had no bearing on the outcome of the game.

I never said I was right... just gave my opinion after seeing the replay.
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If anything, it should have been interference on Quinnipiac. But, certainly not on Fallon.
 
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We see terrible calls night in and night out. They all even out by the end of the season. QU was the far better team for 2 periods on Saturday and that's why they won by a lopsided margin. Enough talk about the refs. They continually stink for everyone.
 
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