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Quinnipiac Bobcats '10-'11

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Great post Wong. I don't need to add much to it since I agree 100 % with everything you said... I think everyone here knows my feelings for the NIP, and how both the team and the fan base have lost some of that magic that defined QU's early ECAC years.

Not that I'd know if this still goes on now or not (but from the comments on the board I figure it doesn't)... but remember having to go wait in line at 6am every Tuesday for tickets for home games?

I know I'm guilty of sitting here and waxing nostalgia on a semi annual basis, but unfortunately from what I've observed through radio telecast, game recaps, and details from this message board, there really haven't been a great deal of QU hockey memories the last few years save for the 6 OT winner and the UMASS win last year. Go back 5 years and it seemed like every weekend something special happened.

I don't really want to regurgitate anything that Wong said, but what this all comes down to is that in 06 and 07, we all used to sit around talking about how in four or five years QU could be a nationally known program. QU was young, had burst into the ECAC and seemed to have endless recruiting resources. The idea of a 2011 or 2012 Frozen Four appearance seemed more than feasible with some hardwork, a little luck, and continued development.

Now here we are just about in 2011 and I'd say QU's in the same position it was when they entered the ECAC... maybe even worse off. At least then they had a rock solid foundation of senior leadership to usher in all the young talent. In 2007 when I graduated we talked about a five year plan maybe leading us to the Frozen Four... now I think of a good five year plan being to finish in the top four in the ECAC at least once.

How far we've come... and I don't mean the program. :(
 
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I'll be at Bright Wednesday for the QU @ Harvard game; if anyone wants to say hi, drop me an email and we'll see if we can't shoot the breeze a bit.
 
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MinniQUFan said:
Great post Wong. I don't need to add much to it since I agree 100 % with everything you said... I think everyone here knows my feelings for the NIP, and how both the team and the fan base have lost some of that magic that defined QU's early ECAC years.

Not that I'd know if this still goes on now or not (but from the comments on the board I figure it doesn't)... but remember having to go wait in line at 6am every Tuesday for tickets for home games?

I know I'm guilty of sitting here and waxing nostalgia on a semi annual basis, but unfortunately from what I've observed through radio telecast, game recaps, and details from this message board, there really haven't been a great deal of QU hockey memories the last few years save for the 6 OT winner and the UMASS win last year. Go back 5 years and it seemed like every weekend something special happened.

I don't really want to regurgitate anything that Wong said, but what this all comes down to is that in 06 and 07, we all used to sit around talking about how in four or five years QU could be a nationally known program. QU was young, had burst into the ECAC and seemed to have endless recruiting resources. The idea of a 2011 or 2012 Frozen Four appearance seemed more than feasible with some hardwork, a little luck, and continued development.

Now here we are just about in 2011 and I'd say QU's in the same position it was when they entered the ECAC... maybe even worse off. At least then they had a rock solid foundation of senior leadership to usher in all the young talent. In 2007 when I graduated we talked about a five year plan maybe leading us to the Frozen Four... now I think of a good five year plan being to finish in the top four in the ECAC at least once.

How far we've come... and I don't mean the program. :(
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I know you've heard this before, but when they first came into the league, Rand and Jack have been quoted as having the following timeline:

4 years in the 9th-12th seed
4 years in the 5th-8th seed
Then battling for the bye year-in and year-out.

Obviously, QU's in that second 4 years, but it's also gone better than anyone could have anticipated. Winning playoff series every single year is pretty good. Is it possible everyone got a little spoiled from the early success?

Not saying that's a bad thing, but it is what it is.
 
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I only say the following because it isn't the first time you've brought up this quote:

A P.R. sound byte from half a decade ago which was meant to set expectations for the 2005 season for a 2005 fan, should never be uttered again. On the eve of 2011, after hundreds of games, six recruiting classes, and countless highs and lows, something that was said that long ago has zero relevance today. You're in the sports business ... you should know this. Don't force me to make an analogy comparing this 2005 statement to a 2005 statement of a different sports team (pro or college) because we'd laugh at it being absurd.

And by the way... the quote into itself is as terrible now as it was then. Having those supposed "lofty" expectations of four years of 9th to 12 seed and then four years of 5th through 8th seed and THEN we can compete for a bye are 1) absurd in college hockey where parity is more than prevalent outside of Boston and Minnesota, 2) absurd in the Ecac where there is fine talent, but let's be serious, outside of one or two pretty good teams a year is still not close to being a top tier college hockey conference, and 3) an unacceptably low expectation to set for a) a budding fan base and b) potential recruits. "Hey come to QU, we plan to be a top 4 team in the ECAC in ten years." Or "hey let's follow QU, they plan to be bad for 4 years, mediocre to average for 4 years and then maybe they can be good enough to win the conference in half a generation. " Doh'kay.
 
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MinniQUFan said:
On the eve of 2011, after hundreds of games, six recruiting classes, and countless highs and lows, something that was said that long ago has zero relevance today.
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I have to agree with this. It probably was the correct thing to say at the time, but it really has no bearing today.

As for tonight, unless I decide in the next hour or so to go alone, I'll be watching online hoping they show up. Harvard is having a rough season thus far and we should be able to beat them with our A game. However, at best we've only seen C level play since we beat them at the Bank. Even that game wasn't our best effort.

The team needs to find a way to come together and put together a solid effort from the opening faceoff to the final buzzer. If they can do that I like our chances, and that's the best you'll get for a prediction from me today! ;)
 
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Depressing as this may be...quite a few former Bobcats are playing in the SCHL (Souther CT Hockey League). The league is a tiny step up from men's league, but has a functioning website and stats, etc. BUT, I think for some of these guys they would have liked to play a little higher.

Jake Bauer- Had his QU time cut short due to head injuries.
http://www.southerncthockeyleague.com/roster_player/show/299749?subseason=34180

Chris Meyers- Another guy who I believe was bit by the injury bug.
http://www.southerncthockeyleague.com/roster_player/show/299743?subseason=34180

Pete Alden- Bobcat from back in the NIP days
http://www.southerncthockeyleague.com/roster_player/show/311694?subseason=34180

Sean Whelan- Former Bobcat team manager, played his college hockey at Curry
http://www.southerncthockeyleague.com/roster_player/show/299733?subseason=34180

Andy Meyer- Former Bobcat D-Man who turned into a heck of a player by his senior year.
http://www.southerncthockeyleague.com/roster_player/show/299742?subseason=34180

Mike Bordieri- Former Bobcat from the NIP days as well. Great leader, great player, suffered an injury his senior year.
http://www.southerncthockeyleague.com/roster_player/show/299741?subseason=34180

Bryan Leitch- Former Nation's leading scorer...now playing alongside some former high school players.
http://www.southerncthockeyleague.com/roster_player/show/299747?subseason=34180

This league isn't too shabby however with the likes of former pros Todd Hall and Mike Pomichter. It's a Pro-Am league worth watching. It's their inaugural year so maybe it will take off.
 
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Nice road win boys!

Looked like they skated hard all game. Hartzell had a really good game with 34 saves. And somehow we managed to score 2 PPG's!

A much needed win for a lot of reasons and puts us in a tie for 4th with Clarkson.

Whew!

Next stop: Providence on Saturday.
 
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Good win... unfortunately a car issue prevented me from making it to the game as planned. Too bad. The plan is to bring my hockey crew down to Hamden in January though. Hopefully I'll see you guys then.
 
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Also... how about the sad state of the ECAC for QU to be a sub .500 team in the conference yet they are in 5th place. Yikes, but I suppose we can't complain.
 
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Only reason they are not lower in the standings is that Q has played the most conference games to date 10 of any ECAC team. All the teams below them (except Hahvad) have played 3 or 4 less games so they have plenty of chances to get some wins and overtake Quinny in the standings.
 
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MinniQUFan said:
I only say the following because it isn't the first time you've brought up this quote:

A P.R. sound byte from half a decade ago which was meant to set expectations for the 2005 season for a 2005 fan, should never be uttered again. On the eve of 2011, after hundreds of games, six recruiting classes, and countless highs and lows, something that was said that long ago has zero relevance today. You're in the sports business ... you should know this. Don't force me to make an analogy comparing this 2005 statement to a 2005 statement of a different sports team (pro or college) because we'd laugh at it being absurd.

And by the way... the quote into itself is as terrible now as it was then. Having those supposed "lofty" expectations of four years of 9th to 12 seed and then four years of 5th through 8th seed and THEN we can compete for a bye are 1) absurd in college hockey where parity is more than prevalent outside of Boston and Minnesota, 2) absurd in the Ecac where there is fine talent, but let's be serious, outside of one or two pretty good teams a year is still not close to being a top tier college hockey conference, and 3) an unacceptably low expectation to set for a) a budding fan base and b) potential recruits. "Hey come to QU, we plan to be a top 4 team in the ECAC in ten years." Or "hey let's follow QU, they plan to be bad for 4 years, mediocre to average for 4 years and then maybe they can be good enough to win the conference in half a generation. " Doh'kay.
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Wait, don't you think they would have wanted to sell tickets by saying "We hope to win immediately!"? It may have been smarter to say they weren't expecting much, but with The Bank opening the following year, I'm not sure that was the smartest thing to say in terms of selling tickets.

That being said, I guess my point is, this is not as doom and gloom as some of you think it is. They might be worse right now than they were 3-4 years ago, but that doesn't mean they're going to stay there. Recruiting comes in cycles. Everyone cycles up and down, especially in this league.
 
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Nice win for the boys. Surprisingly enough it was the first time they have one at Bright in the regular season. They now up their record at Bright to 2-7. Their only other win came in the conference quarters three years ago when they lossed in three games.

Hartzell seemed to be on his game stopping 34. Langer is slowly but surely coming to form. Dunbar and Harvey, guys who play similar styles are producing as well. It's a good momentum win finishing off the 2010 part of the ECAC slate. Now we have Providence in what's going to be a tough game. See ya there.
 
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Getting ready to hit the road for Providence. Last game before the break so it would be nice to come home with a win.

These two teams seems rather similar this year so I'm not really sure what we'll see. PC plays in Hockey East so I expect they'll be a bit faster and bigger than we are. Hopefully we can hold our own. Maybe someone can break out offensively today and carry us to victory!

Go Q!
 
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Not the way I would have like to go into the holiday break, but it is what it is. Maybe the 2nd half will show improvement?
 
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Not happy they lost but glad Rand gave McGann some playing time. I have always thought he should have had more opportunities
 
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Well hopefully this is as low as it'll get. Aside from the Harvard game which may be more of an indictment of how bad they are than how good we are, we have been awful. Way too many defensive lapses, lack of solid goaltending, zero offense, no leadership and zippo in the heart column. We're 1-5 over the last six and 25 goals have been scored against us in that six game span which equates to over 4 goals against a game. Yuck. But the positive side, yes there is one, is the fact that we still have positioned ourselves in decent, not ideal, position within the league. Will we be a top four team? No, but no one expected that. However, I still believe we can be a 5-8 team. As of right now with the way we are playing that's not likely but it can be done and the break may do them some good. Especially if they can come back from the break and take at least one of two from 8th ranked UNO. On the flip side, if they get embarrassed the season could be lost.

Something just isn't clicking with them they have tiny incremental spurts of excellence followed by long lulls of inept play. I rip Hansen for his on ice play, and that will continue if his play warrants it, but he was the only one that I saw wearing the Bobcat uniform in Scheider Arena that was barking, showing some heart and trying to rally the troops. Maybe, the C on Zurvy's chest was more of a stop gap to get him to stay rather than actually being earned. Now, me of all people, I am not campaigning saying that Hansen should be our captain, but it'd be nice to see Zurvy light into this group. JMB wouldn't have stood for this play, Henny wouldn't have stood for it, neither would Bates or Cash. Wake up Q. Or they might as well call it a day. There is no chemistry and it's showing on the ice.

Come out after the holiday and at least split with UNO...get the ball rolling in a positive direction.
 
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Whew last few posts have gotten me psyched to come back for the UNO games... I haven't seen the games that others on here have so I'll let someone else say ___ Rand. Just seems like when die-hards like Wong get this frustrated you wonder if drastic changes are necessary.

Also been really enjoying MinniQU's posts. I have a great friend who still lives in the area that has season tix to the Bank and is my lifeline to QU Hockey. He will root for other ECAC teams in hopes that when we play them it will benefit our PairWise, Strength of Schedule or whichever system is used. This year, I've finally got fed up and said it really doesn't make sense to think like this any more since we're far from in contention for At-Large bids or maybe even from dreaming of winning the ECAC Tournament at all. We're just not that good of a team or one with that much hope anymore. And there is why I think, like MinniQU said that we have taken steps back. It's not even that we're not there yet, it doesn't appear that there's a nucleus that can get us there. And sorry, two brothers does not a nucleus make.

But hey, they're my team no matter what. Lets go Bobcats.
 
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