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Quinnipiac Bobcats '10-'11

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Tonights games is a puzzle since I don't know what to expect from either team. Our troubles are well known and SLU has been struggling as well. They have an advantage in that they've been off for 2 weeks giving them plenty of rest. We're coming off 4 games in 8 days and tonight starts another 4 in 8 stretch. I guess it all depends on which Bobcat team takes the ice to start the game. I'll take a conservative guess at a 3-2 QU victory.

Go Q!
 
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I guess it all depends on which Bobcat team takes the ice to start the game.
About the only good news tonight was the fact that they didn't give up after allowing 2 quick goals. They were determined and fought hard to get back in the game. Unfortunately, another team came out after the first intermission.

For once, we had the refs on our side but couldn't do anything on the PP. Two goals came right after SLU penalties expired but other than that... ugh. Our PP is dismal at best.

Hartzell played well right up until he gift-wrapped a goal on his ill-advised clear attempt. And Hansen... wonger is right: he's not contributing anything positive. He gave SLU 3 assists tonight with his sloppy play.

Early on it looked like Langlois and Goodman were going to be unstoppable. Both were playing better than they have all year, but they seemed to fade after the first (or SLU made adjustments to contain them). Dahlhusien also started strong but couldn't sustain it all night. I'd love to see what this team could do if they put together a full 60 minute effort.

If nothing else, maybe tonight embarrassed them enough to fire them up for Clarkson tomorrow. At this point with the way we're playing, it's a must-win as far as I'm concerned.
 
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First.........long overdue Kudo's to Wonger for the nice recap he provided earlier in the week. I saw him at the game tonight and complimented him on his skills and ability to be brief (sic).

Nice also to see Mark and the Q Crew.

We had a nice SLU turn out as well.

While I obviously was rooting for the Saints to win......the analogy I used to a friend was that if these two teams were in a horse race instead of a hockey game.....they would have put both out to pasture after the game or worse sent them to the glue factory.

I know both coaches have to "gift wrap" some comments and find some positives to talk about to the press........but I'll tell you....from where I was standing.... that was one of the worst played hockey games (by both sides) I have seen in a long time. Both teams absolutely gave goals away in huge numbers and the play was very sloppy.

Your beloved Bobcats did have quite a territorial advantage for long parts of the game........but statistically you have to please have the gentleman who keeps track of your shots on goal eliminate the "doubler" button he must be using to keep track of your shots.

How we (SLU) won that game was a mystery to me and I am sure you feel the same about your teams play based on the comments. Let's leave it to let that game RIP. I hope I never see another one like it. Best of luck tomorrow night against the Knights.
 
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Not liking what I've read about this game. Mark, I double dog dare you to pick against QU tonight. I don't know if you've ever done that. ;)
 
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Yeah, you guys covered it. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. That was the kind of game you might see at a juniors all star game...no flow, goals left and right, poor goaltending and zone D. Yuck. And to top it all off we were the team that lost the game. It could have went either way and that's not a compliment to either team.

The positive is that I thought some of the players that I called out and gave low grades to stepped it up big time. The Joneses are always gonna fly around and I've thought all along that Dalhuisen has played excellent this year (still could use him a little more on the PP and NOT Barron or Hansen). But, Langer, Zurvy (at times), Goody and Currie all played quality valuable minutes. Hopefully this can keep up and our goalies can save something. I'm not throwing it all at them because our defense in front of the net and eliminating odd man rushes is atrocious, but I'd love to see consistent night in, night out solid goaltending, many soft goals.

Great turnout by the Saints faithful. Good to see some fellow posters in the flesh and Mike, who shed his devout impartiality to cheer on his Saints. Maybe he'll come back tonight and cheer equally as hard against the Knights.

Let's go get one tonight. Clarkson is coming in hot and they've looked way more capable of doing big things in this league this year than the prognosticators projected.

I hope we see Clarkie get the start, Hartz hasn't been himself since the Princeton game. Just looks out of sorts. I'd also like to see Heichman reinserted...Rand we lose when he's not in the lineup...it's that simple.

No prediction. Hope to see better play and continued offense...Go Q!
 
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I'm in big disagreements with most of you.
That was the most exciting game I have seen all year.
The goaltending was atrocious on both sides. I'll give Hartzell benefit of the doubt on the first goal, but the second and third were all him.
Hansen did nothing to help Clarke with that first sniper shot, and then Clarke let another one in. And there's nothing you can do about an open net shot =(
That was the best I've seen our offense all year. Granted, we accomplished nothing on the power plays, but for most of them we had great control of the puck and then we put it together after the penalty was over.
Great play by Zurvy, Dalhuisen, Langer, Goodie, Davies, and Yuri.
Despite the loss, that team did not give up. Not when we were down two goals after 3:10 into the first or when we needed a goal to tie it up with 1:30 to go.
Maybe it wasn't the prettiest, but it was the most heart I've seen from that team and I can't wait to see what they come out with tonight.
 
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Mark, I double dog dare you to pick against QU tonight. I don't know if you've ever done that. ;)
I don't think I've ever admitted that we could lose a game, though I have picked against them in the Pick 'Em threads.

I'm as optimistic as you are pessimistic! :p I always believe they can win every game. I... just... can't... pick... against... them...


Despite the loss, that team did not give up. Not when we were down two goals after 3:10 into the first or when we needed a goal to tie it up with 1:30 to go.
Maybe it wasn't the prettiest, but it was the most heart I've seen from that team and I can't wait to see what they come out with tonight.
While I understand what you're saying, this heart issue you bring up means one thing to me: maybe the talent isn't what it should be. Lots of shots on net against a shaky goaltender... they should have been able to score a dozen against Moss the way he was fighting the puck all night, but they're just not taking enough quality ones.
 
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I don't think I've ever admitted that we could lose a game, though I have picked against them in the Pick 'Em threads.

I'm as optimistic as you are pessimistic! :p I always believe they can win every game. I... just... can't... pick... against... them...


While I understand what you're saying, this heart issue you bring up means one thing to me: maybe the talent isn't what it should be. Lots of shots on net against a shaky goaltender... they should have been able to score a dozen against Moss the way he was fighting the puck all night, but they're just not taking enough quality ones.

Rememnber the first year of ECAC Hockey for Quinnipiac? That team had more heart than any team in the nation. They had no business being on the ice with half the teams in the league, and still ended up as a 9 seed (which was much higher than they were picked). Even more, they were 1 win away from Albany that year. Heart in hockey can really take you places.
 
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"Houston, we have a problem!"

I think I've lost all my optimism after this weekend. I can't even begin to understand what is wrong. It's like nothing at all is working (though it was nice to finally see a couple of PP goals tonight). I was really hoping we were getting our "bad" play out of the way early so we could come on strong in the second half of the season. Now I'm not so sure...


Heart in hockey can really take you places.
Lack of it takes you places too... like straight to the cellar! :(
 
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Rememnber the first year of ECAC Hockey for Quinnipiac? That team had more heart than any team in the nation. They had no business being on the ice with half the teams in the league, and still ended up as a 9 seed (which was much higher than they were picked). Even more, they were 1 win away from Albany that year. Heart in hockey can really take you places.

Unfortunately, I think QU is settling into its place right where everyone thought they would when they joined the ECAC.
 
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Unfortunately, I think QU is settling into its place right where everyone thought they would when they joined the ECAC.

I'm not sure I agree with that. Every team has up years and bad years. Look at Yale when QU first came into the league. Now, they're one of the top-ranked teams in the country. QU will be like every other team in the league. Great some years, good other years, bad other years. It's cyclical.
 
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I'm not sure I agree with that. Every team has up years and bad years. Look at Yale when QU first came into the league. Now, they're one of the top-ranked teams in the country. QU will be like every other team in the league. Great some years, good other years, bad other years. It's cyclical.

If I had more energy, I'd argue this point... considering QU has been a middle of the road (at best) ECAC team just about every season (I'm pretty sure we've yet to finish in the top 4 in the league) with the benefit of a couple nice post season runs, but I'll let it be... for now.

On another note, I'll be making my 2010 fan debut at Harvard on Wednesday. Going to be a unfamiliar team.
 
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If I had more energy, I'd argue this point... considering QU has been a middle of the road (at best) ECAC team just about every season (I'm pretty sure we've yet to finish in the top 4 in the league) with the benefit of a couple nice post season runs, but I'll let it be... for now.

On another note, I'll be making my 2010 fan debut at Harvard on Wednesday. Going to be a unfamiliar team.

In a league where everyone makes the playoffs, isn't the tournament the first thing that really, really matters?

Yeah, I know: Home ice, first round bye, etc. You play the regular season, and really go for it in the league tourney.
 
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In a league where everyone makes the playoffs, isn't the tournament the first thing that really, really matters?

Yeah, I know: Home ice, first round bye, etc. You play the regular season, and really go for it in the league tourney.

Well you did base your initial argument around Yale being a top ranked team in the nation and gaining a top rank requires quite a bit of regular season success.
 
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My whole point was that QU spent it's first few years in the ECAC making baby steps (that in the end really led no where), and now it feels like every year it's the same old story with the team. With that said, I realize we have a lot of young talent that hopefully can materialize over the next few years, but then again go back five years and look what two outstanding freshman classes in a row did...

At least we'll always have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j94kVpojlRQ

I was going to post Marshall's two play of the year goals, but the QU athletics media archive is being uncooperative.


Though digging around... ZYanks... look what I found online: http://athleticsmedia.quinnipiac.ed...ceHockey/Niagara-2006/images/IMG_2417_JPG.jpg

http://athleticsmedia.quinnipiac.ed...ckey/ECAC-QU-RPI-Game1/pages/IMG_3553_JPG.htm

http://athleticsmedia.quinnipiac.ed...sIceHockey/QU-Harvard/images/83DG5414_JPG.jpg

http://athleticsmedia.quinnipiac.ed...eHockey/Dartmouth-2007/pages/JDH_2953_jpg.htm
 
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On another note, I'll be making my 2010 fan debut at Harvard on Wednesday.
Unfortunately it doesn't look like we'll be making the trip. Mid-week games so close to the holidays don't favor working folks. :(

Be sure to rep the Q properly in our absence! ;)
 
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Weighing in on this argument after considering both sides. Minni I totally get what you saying and it does seem as if we have become a stagnant team in terms of moving up or down in the conference. Yanks, I too, agree that making a run in the playoffs means the most.

That being said, if this program is going to rise like it should it needs a top four finish. I worry because I don't see this happening any time soon. I attribute most of this to Rand's recruiting, the general positive vibes around the program and the lack of remembering our roots. I tackle the recruiting in a second, but the Bank has become a morgue. I understand that with winning comes fans, but we started the season 7-4-1 with the four losses coming to respectable opponents and there was still nobody coming in. To boot, this isn't just a problem this season, the last 2 have been brutal attendence-wise as well.

I look back at the pictures that Black posted and to see the empassioned faces that himself and his fellow original Crazy Bobcats had behind the goal anticipating Mookie to score, brings on bittersweet feelings. I was a late joiner to the Crazy Bobcats but I still consider myself one, really joining on my Freshman year of 05. Heading to Ingalls for those supposed "home" games and watching from behind the net at Northford. I recall beating Cornell and watching the highly partisan Cornell crowd leave with their heads down. There was something about the NIP that inspired the underdog story and really carried us through the playoffs that initial year and then to the Championship the following year. Since we started a FULL season at the Bank, the small town story has disappeared with the emergence of the Palace on the Hill, which is quickly becoming a village. Don't get me wrong, the expansion helps recruiting, sponsorship and all the other glamour that comes with that. But heading up to Albany my sophomore year with a car full of Bobcat fans that would show up to games two hours early was a very proud moment for me, A: being a Hamdenite and B: being a devout fan of an up and coming team. Where am I going with this...who knows? But the fact of the matter is the culture of the fan has changed. There are a few guys left down there who have expressed the same sentiment that myself, Seth, Black, Roz and even Kevin once had and may still have. When you create a larger than life, borderline minor league atmosphere you lose alot of the heart and pride that was the cornerstone to building this program. People still laugh at me in the area when I tell them of my devotion to Quinnipiac hockey... The fact that I haven't missed a home game dating back to the NIP days, the fact that I would shell out $95 bucks in order to have every different jersey or the fact that I still need to get to the game well before the 40 minute skate around. But it's part of the culture that myself and a very small few have adopted. In order for Quinnipiac to be more successful they need to create an environment that brings back the old NIP feel. After being to a few league and non league rinks I do feel that pride when I see opposing fans staring at the Bank wide-eyed, but that pride is strictly appearance based because once the game starts their fans, in their smaller numbers, tend to out shout, cheer and chant our seated on their hands crowd. It was no more evident than Saturday night against Clarkson. School was in session, the student section was pathetic and the traveling Knight's fans embarrassed the home town crowd ultimately culminating with their Knights giving them a stick salute on our ice. That's another story...I wouldn't have minded seeing our boys drop the gloves right there and risk forfitting the Harvard game for a whole team brawl. However, we don't have this, as a fanbase, right now. We did once.

I don't know how it's rectified. Do you possibly consider hosting one game each year at the NIP against a Uconn or a Holy Cross just to bring back old feelings? It's 2010, maybe it's time for the athletic department to bring back to the Bank an All Decade Team.

As far as recruiting...look at the next few senior classes since the Wong, Marshall clan departed...

2011: Hansen, McGann, Liimatainen, Coughlin
2012: Bouharevich, Bui, Clarke, Glaicar, Heichman, Zurevinski
2013: Arnt, Barron, Currie, Dalhuisen, Davies, Goodman, Hartzell, Harvey, Langlois, Oakes, Rolheiser, Tyson
2014: Dunbar, Hibbeler, C Jones, K Jones, Robinson, Tolkinen

None of these classes come close the classes that have gone before them. Let's not forget the Nelson/Bates class either. Rand was finding and producing professional level players. This is not the case with guys with the exception of the Joneses and possibly Zurevinski. We're talking whole classes whos collective point total may not equal that of individual players who've come before them. Something changed here too, the reassuring part is the recruitment of the Joneses who have a chance to do great things.

My main point with this is that recruiting classes who began their careers being recruited for Atlantic Hockey play and had no right even keeping up with ECACHL competition put up obscene numbers while these classes which were recruited with ECAC in mind aren't doing anything. Something is wrong there.

Something needs to be done because the arena has lost its initial buzz, recruiting talent is down, basketball is doing well and looking to win the league and could easily outdraw hockey on any given night and they are losing the student body, a student body, mind you, who has no idea what the NIP is.
 
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Wow! :eek: ;)

I'm not going to touch the fan/student issue at this time...

My main point with this is that recruiting classes who began their careers being recruited for Atlantic Hockey play and had no right even keeping up with ECACHL competition put up obscene numbers while these classes which were recruited with ECAC in mind aren't doing anything. Something is wrong there.
I've been thinking about this all season as well. We certainly have enough talent INMO, but it seems like that talent is not being used properly, or at least the systems in place aren't producing results.

We've been a team built on speed and finesse. We're also a lot smaller than most teams we face. That may work for the BC's of D1 but it's not working for us. Look how badly we were man-handled by Clarkson Saturday night. Once they started hitting us, we could no longer play our game.

Maybe we just need to accept that this is a rebuilding year after all?
 
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Wow! :eek: ;)

I'm not going to touch the fan/student issue at this time...

I've been thinking about this all season as well. We certainly have enough talent INMO, but it seems like that talent is not being used properly, or at least the systems in place aren't producing results.

We've been a team built on speed and finesse. We're also a lot smaller than most teams we face. That may work for the BC's of D1 but it's not working for us. Look how badly we were man-handled by Clarkson Saturday night. Once they started hitting us, we could no longer play our game.

Maybe we just need to accept that this is a rebuilding year after all?

Rebuilding years are perfectly acceptable as long as they build toward something down the line.
 
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