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POTUS Elect Trump I: Get in pu$$y - we're gonna make American great again

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dxmnkd316 said:
So the shortsighted moron decided that he's going to cancel the contract with Boeing for the new Air Force Ones probably thinking, "I won't need them, so why buy them?"

I don't think he understands why these were purchased so far in advance of the old ones being retired. Nor do I think he has any understanding of why you don't cut corners on the world's most well-known vehicle.
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I think it has to do with the cost.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
The Daily Show (and its viewership) forgot they're on a network called "Comedy Central".
When you remember that you take everything there with a grain of salt and react accordingly.
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And just ignore all the surveys that indicated the Daily Show's audience was more politically aware than the country in general. Just another 'shoot the messenger' post coming from you.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
$4 billion for a couple of large format jets with advanced defensive requirements doesn't seem out of line.
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A base model 747 costs $370 million or so.

Add the sun roof, the SiriusXM subscription, back-up camera, heated front and rear seats and heated steering wheel, nav system, the gold trim package, escape pods, defensive counter-measures, leather interior, full EMP proof hardening including satellite communications, and extra cup holders, and $2 billion per still sounds high.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
The hypothetical game is so much fun. Imagine not playing it. ;)

How about news tells the fact, just the facts. No hype; no bluster; no false reporting; no matter the source.
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What are "the facts"? Your facts, my facts, their source's facts, or something else entirely?
 
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rufus said:
What are "the facts"? Your facts, my facts, their source's facts, or something else entirely?
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As I said, and Kep so eloquently described,

Truth is conformity of mind to reality.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
A base model 747 costs $370 million or so.

Add the sun roof, the SiriusXM subscription, back-up camera, heated front and rear seats and heated steering wheel, nav system, the gold trim package, escape pods, defensive counter-measures, leather interior, full EMP proof hardening including satellite communications, and extra cup holders, and $2 billion per still sounds high.
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You forget that Trump's plane will need a nav system for an entirely alternative reality.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
A base model 747 costs $370 million or so.

Add the sun roof, the SiriusXM subscription, back-up camera, heated front and rear seats and heated steering wheel, nav system, the gold trim package, escape pods, defensive counter-measures, leather interior, full EMP proof hardening including satellite communications, and extra cup holders, and $2 billion per still sounds high.
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XM is in tons of small planes, weather channels are pretty helpful. They make a lot of money in the small plane market. Wouldn't be shocked to see it in any private plane
 
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SJHovey said:
I agree all lies are not equal. I do struggle with the idea of applying the consequences of a particular lie to establish the degree or evilness of that lie. If a 16 year old makes up a lie about a 16 year old female classmate sleeping with a boy, and the victim runs home crying in embarrassment as a result, is that lie any different than if the victim went home and committed suicide? The outcomes were certainly different, but the lies, not so much.

Personally, I don't find the fact that "fake news" of varying degrees is finding its way into the public domain to a greater level, or that more people are believing that news and/or republishing it. That's been around since people started communicating with one another.

I'm more interested in observing the consequences. Anyone who frequents internet message boards like this one has certainly observed the phenomena in the past couple of decades of an increased willingness of people to write things that are mean, malicious and just plain false. Probably due in large part to the feeling of anonymity created by communicating from a computer or electronic device alone, in the safety of our own private spaces. When will defamation law catch up, if at all? I personally think it will, but that has my curiosity.
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And the consequences are what I am interested in as well. I do this to both sides of the argument as well. Whenever some nutbar talks about Anarchy and taking down the system (especially liberals like Tom Morello) I get right in their face about how you can preach that all you want but be prepared for what comes next. When the Right preaches "Abstinence" and cuts off funding to Planned Parenthood or makes it harder to get birth control on religious grounds I get it...and when they whine that those "irresponsible people" should be forced to take the kid to term and raise it I make sure they understand the likelihood our taxes will be paying for that kid.

I dont care that BS news is out there...it always has been. If you take the time to research and educate yourself you can filter it out or look at it as a joke or a farce (like we all tend to do around here) but the problem is, we live in a society that is still evolving to open sourced news and we tend to get it so fast and furious by the time we even have a chance to look at the facts of the story it is already done and on to the next one. And, not to be mean, but there is plenty of people out there that are a few donuts short of a dozen and take anything they read as fact. It is dangerous...that is my concern.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
So the shortsighted moron decided that he's going to cancel the contract with Boeing for the new Air Force Ones probably thinking, "I won't need them, so why buy them?"

I don't think he understands why these were purchased so far in advance of the old ones being retired. Nor do I think he has any understanding of why you don't cut corners on the world's most well-known vehicle.
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Marine One's replacement was cancelled under Obama's watch because the estimated $6.1 Billion for 28 helicopters had ballooned to $13 Billion. Or $465 Million per Helicopter. Or more than the cost of one Air Force One when it was built in 1986.

The DoD was wrangled in, and instead of design/build at the same time, a sensible approach of retrofitting a newer helicopter was utilized.

The same will likely happen with the new Air Force One. Uncle Joe will be flying in style in 2021.
 
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Handyman said:
See I am Jewish...all guilt is filtered through the lens of "The Jewish Mother". We dont need degress...everything is a mortal sin ;)
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"You're killing your father!" :p ;)

A Jew / Catholic guilt-off would be pretty impressive. The difference I have always heard is in Judaism your mother inflicts the guilt, while in Catholicism you are expected to do it to yourself.
 
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That reminds me...the reactions to Biden saying he might run in 2020 have been pretty awesome. I doubt he does it but if he does 4 years from now is going to be one hell of an election season :D
 
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Kepler said:
"You're killing your father!" :p ;)

A Jew / Catholic guilt-off would be pretty impressive. The difference I have always heard is in Judaism your mother inflicts the guilt, while in Catholicism you are expected to do it to yourself.
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The differences are quite interesting...for example you confess your sins week to week (well in theory) whereas we do it yearly by sitting at a synagogue for hours upon hours, not eating and making sure everyone sees us so they can judge while God forgives us! Oh and if you miss the day and cant do it...sucks to be you God dont forget!!

All you guys have to do is accept Jesus and beg for forgiveness 1 second before you die and you are in. ******* :p
 
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Handyman said:
That reminds me...the reactions to Biden saying he might run in 2020 have been pretty awesome. I doubt he does it but if he does 4 years from now is going to be one hell of an election season :D
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Beats Kanye.

I hope we have 17 candidates of our own. Give me the opposite of 2016: a steel cage match with survival of the fittest.
 
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