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POTUS Elect Trump I: Get in pu$$y - we're gonna make American great again

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That's why it's called "trolling".

It's basically the smug liberal equivalent of putting a flag on your car after 9/11, and then accusing anyone who didn't have one of hating America and/or being a godless commie.
 
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It's basically the smug liberal equivalent of putting a flag on your car after 9/11, and then accusing anyone who didn't have one of hating America and/or being a godless commie.

Pretty much.
Both are smarmy, jackwagon moves.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump I: Get in pu$$y - we're gonna make American great again

Call me cynical, but if they really cared all that much, they would've been flying them for years now.

Has Pence been living there for years? Has he been one KFC chicken bone(jk, that **** is probably done now that the election is over) from being the GD president of the country for years?

I didn't have to argue that Nazis are bad nearly as much two years ago as I do now. Doesn't mean my feelings on the issue changed at all, just the threat level faced.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump I: Get in pu$$y - we're gonna make American great again

So a lot of moderate conservatives are against government regulations. How do you conservatives feel about punitive threats from the government for certain corporate actions (as Trump is starting to do)?
 
So a lot of moderate conservatives are against government regulations. How do you conservatives feel about punitive threats from the government for certain corporate actions (as Trump is starting to do)?

It's horrible. Trump is easily the most liberal/progressive/socialist/statist/authoritarian (pick your favorite bad word) president in memory, if not ever. He's more liberal than GW.
 
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How do you conservatives feel about punitive threats from the government for certain corporate actions (as Trump is starting to do)?

Punitive? I think you mean remunerative. Carrier extorted $7M out of Trump for 800 jobs. Companies are going to be lining up for punishment like that.
 
So, I'll give you the Reader's Digest*: My automation is more efficient, but it's being put in because factories can't find suitable workers.


*Need the large print edition? :D

They could find suitable workers if they paid more, but robots cost less than what they would need to pay to get good employees for those jobs.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump I: Get in pu$$y - we're gonna make American great again

We deify the good ole days, but like I said, it's still not a great system. I'm pretty sure police didn't become evil as soon as we tore some of those walls down. In fact, I'm willing bet they were even worse prior. There wasn't a lot of space for those stories in the newspapers of those guys though.

I'm working through Dashiell Hammet's works. His portrayal of how police collected information from suspects is illuminating.

What has been will be again, / what has been done will be done again; / there is nothing new under the sun. -- Ecclesiastes 1:9
 
No, we will always need work to be done, but more and more will move out of human control and to robotics, computers, and probably stuff we can't even imagine yet. There is no law that says jobs have to appear in proportion to the population. For example, US manufacturing output is at its all-time high. Manufacturing jobs continue to decline not because of a decline in output, but in a decline in the "human labor ratio" of manufacturing tasks. Machine/AI inputs will continue to increase and eventually slop over into every work segment. Just think of how many jobs have been replaced by computer programs -- not even hardware. Presumably at some point people will be aghast that we ever let human beings drive buses, fly airplanes, fight wars, perform surgery, balance the books, mine coal, etc... Tech just gets faster and more efficient and cheaper, all the way up and down the production system.

I completely agree with this. It is staggering how much we can produce with very little human labor.

I'd like to see us increase minimum wage. It's far from a perfect solution but I think would help ease the transition we are going through.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump I: Get in pu$$y - we're gonna make American great again

Pretty much.
Both are smarmy, jackwagon moves.

It may be jackwagon but it's very different from the 9/11 example. That was "Look at ME -- I'm so patriotic!" This is "Look at YOU -- you're a loathsome sack of sh-t."

It's a shaming move, not a peacock move.
 
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I'd like to see us increase minimum wage. It's far from a perfect solution but I think would help ease the transition we are going through.

GMI is the inevitable bridge move. When the number of "work" jobs become obviously insufficient for the potential workforce, we can either move to a guaranteed income or let people starve to death. Assuming Paul Ryan isn't in charge, we'll do the former. Since productivity and output will only continue to increase (at least up to the point where Nature has had enough and wipes us all out via a plague), the possessions considered to be "minimal needs" will continue to increase. There's no guarantee that this will include education, so population growth won't necessarily stabilize, and that will slow things down for a while, but eventually even women in Iran and Mississippi will figure it out.

And so eventually the whole idea of getting a paycheck, once from the employer but now from the government, will gradually die off, and people will just take what they need from the necessities bucket when they need it.

We'll still have the rich -- we'll still have our monkey brains and a few who NEED to lord it over the other monkeys -- but at least the line of impecunity will have been moved from "pick which child starves" to "pick which day you can't do cocaine this week."

Not saying it will be better. Just different. But way different that we can see.
 
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GMI is the inevitable bridge move. When the number of "work" jobs become obviously insufficient for the potential workforce, we can either move to a guaranteed income or let people starve to death. Assuming Paul Ryan isn't in charge, we'll do the former. Since productivity and output will only continue to increase (at least up to the point where Nature has had enough and wipes us all out via a plague), the possessions considered to be "minimal needs" will continue to increase. There's no guarantee that this will include education, so population growth won't necessarily stabilize, and that will slow things down for a while, but eventually even women in Iran and Mississippi will figure it out.

And so eventually the whole idea of getting a paycheck, once from the employer but now from the government, will gradually die off, and people will just take what they need from the necessities bucket when they need it.

We'll still have the rich -- we'll still have our monkey brains and a few who NEED to lord it over the other monkeys -- but at least the line of impecunity will have been moved from "pick which child starves" to "pick which day you can't do cocaine this week."

Not saying it will be better. Just different. But way different that we can see.

It will be interesting if GMI flies here. I think the super rich would have to pay for it and I'm not sure if they would go for it or not. These are great problems to have and it will be very interesting to see how they are handled.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump I: Get in pu$$y - we're gonna make American great again

It may be jackwagon but it's very different from the 9/11 example. That was "Look at ME -- I'm so patriotic!" This is "Look at YOU -- you're a loathsome sack of sh-t."

It's a shaming move, not a peacock move.

No, it's:

"Look at ME! -- I'm so tolerant! (now that a known homophobe has moved into the neighborhood)"

Leave symbols to the symbol-minded.
 
Re: POTUS Elect Trump I: Get in pu$$y - we're gonna make American great again

Leave symbols to the symbol-minded.

Carlin? Sounds like him.

Also you have to be a little strange to think supporting gay rights is "tolerant." You tolerate something like Nazi free speech -- you put up with awful people for the greater good of recognizing that they too have rights. I'm not sure anybody outside of Indiana or the Catholic Church would say that about gay people.
 
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