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POTUS 46.10: A New Hope

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That has to do more with age than it does anything else I would bet. UAW didn't tell Trump to get bent for nothing. I believe I read UAW is a rather young and diverse union so I think it is more that certain demos of unions have lost their way.

My college is partially a trades college (cars, pipes, welders...some others) and I can tell you the demographic shift of those unions is not good for the GOP.
This. As the older generation of the unions retire, the more the union shifts to the left. It’s a big reason why we’re starting to see a different type of union leader as well.
 
The unions that have moved to the GOP are the rural mining unions in states like W.Va and Montana that are already trending red.

My Ironworkers were located in Wisconsin, MN, Illinois and Iowa, with about 80% in MN and WI, and most were significantly younger than I am. Most who voted were trump voters. I had three shops in the Twin Cities. Almost all trumpers. I had a shop located within a half mile of where the George Floyd protests broke out. African American members there argued that George Floyd "should have complied" and were just as likely as the white members to complain about the Somalis who lived in and around the surrounding neighborhoods and say stupid things like they "smelled bad." These members were virtually all trumpers, some with MAGA bumper stickers or stuff on their lockers. One of the most shocking was the Minnesota member who had "White Lives Matter" stickers on his pickup truck.

I suspect many did not vote, so their "support" didn't go far, but the ones who voted voted against their own interests. We had no organized political program. There were multiple reasons for that, not the least withstanding was the union was horribly organized and poorly run, but also it would have pis sed off too many people. Just before I left that hell hole of a union a member in Wausau called me up to tell me he wanted to drop out because he was mad that his "union dues were going to Joe Biden" because Biden had been on the cover of the latest issue of the Iron Workers monthly glossy rag. I was only a week away from putting my notice in so I felt safe in telling him he was too stupid to be a union member anyway and to have fun voting against he pocketbook interests for the rest of his life.

A good portion of my current union members are right wingers too. Some are the usual suspects, like parole officers (both adult and juvenile) and department of rehab and corrections personnel. And I am not talking the COs in the state prison system. Those cement heads are in another union. I am talking health care workers in those units. As well, a not trivial portion of the registered nurses in various hospital systems in Ohio, not to mention of course members in Kentucky and WVa. Some of our members have defended their rights to own assault weapons and fly confederate flags. Those are mostly southern Ohio and WVa and Kentucky people, but they are still union members.

It's frustrating to say the least.
 
A good portion of my current union members are right wingers too. Some are the usual suspects, like parole officers (both adult and juvenile) and department of rehab and corrections personnel. And I am not talking the COs in the state prison system. Those cement heads are in another union. I am talking health care workers in those units. As well, a not trivial portion of the registered nurses in various hospital systems in Ohio, not to mention of course members in Kentucky and WVa. Some of our members have defended their rights to own assault weapons and fly confederate flags. Those are mostly southern Ohio and WVa and Kentucky people, but they are still union members.

It's frustrating to say the least.

Nurses are a more diverse group than people think. You've got the intensely harpy sort who like to boss people and tell them what to do. You've got the bros who are either fitness/yoga/diet nuts, recovering addicts, or both (this is 99% of the male nurses I've ever met). You've got the religious ones, who sometimes crossover with the 'holistic' ones who like to do their own research (AKA, believe in debunked conspiracies & alt medicine), and together these two usually make up the small clique who think they know more than physicians and decades of medical research. Somehow they keep most of it on the DL (e.g., off-the-clock discussions with family and/or neighbors), and never get in trouble with the state BON.

On recent trips through WI, I've been very surprised by all the Dump & GQP stuff. My BIL told me that Green Bay/Appleton is red, and there's basically 2.5 blue areas (Milwaukee, Madison, and the county that has LaCrosse where they live).
 
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The Left helps Liberals when the chips are down.

It's a shame the opposite is never true, but that's how entitlement works.

Kill the Right today so we can all be alive to kill the Center tomorrow.
 
Nurses are a more diverse group than people think.

I was shocked during COVID to find so many stories of prairie "nurses" who were MAGAt anti-vaxers (I wasn't surprised about the slave state ones -- nothing surprises me about the South). I know it's not a real medical degree, but they did have to take a couple substantive medical courses in their training. How did these Christian ex-cheerleaders get into the field to spread their conservaderp in between spreading their legs to trap a doctor husband by getting knocked up for Jesus?
 
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I was shocked during COVID to find so many stories of prairie "nurses" who were MAGAt anti-vaxers (I wasn't surprised about the slave state ones -- nothing surprises me about the South). I know it's not a real medical degree, but they did have to take a couple substantive medical courses in their training. How did these Christian ex-cheerleaders get into the field to spread their conservaderp in between spreading their legs to trap a doctor husband by getting knocked up for Jesus?

As someone who married into a family of religious nurses, I can confirm, they have this "my life is for service of others" mentality. Basically it's the only "god sent me to serve" profession that actually puts food on your table.

Which is why I'm glad my wife didn't follow that path.


ETA: The other thing is the ego trip some of them get. Not so much my wife's family, but some nurses conflate their profession with medical doctors and it just isn't.
 
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As someone who married into a family of religious nurses, I can confirm, they have this "my life is for service of others" mentality. Basically it's the only "god sent me to serve" profession that actually puts food on your table.

Which is why I'm glad my wife didn't follow that path.


ETA: The other thing is the ego trip a lot of them get. Not so much my wife's family, but a lot of nurses conflate their profession with medical doctors and it just isn't.

Working as a nurse is a hard, thankless job. They truly are in the service of others. Furthermore, while they are not doctors, there is a pretty good chance that if something is going on with you and the medical facility catches it in time to save your life, it was probably a nurse involved in identifying that problem. They are on the front lines, on an hourly basis, seeing to your care. If you are unlucky enough to have to go to a facility for significant medical treatment, you better hope you get a good set of nurses.
 
Yeah, I should clarify.

Nurses are, like most populations, a bell curve. The vast, vast majority are normal people. I shouldn't paint with such a broad brush. "A lot" was a relatively poor choice of words.
 
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Neil Cavuto on Fox "News" talking about what a waste today was. "For the better part of six hours, I have been following these hearings, talk an hour off to do my fox business show earlier today. I don't know what was achieved… None or the witnesses provided any proof for impeachment"


I mean, people with functioning cerebral cortexes knew this. But now even Fox viewers are hearing it, if that matters at all.
 
Neil Cavuto on Fox "News" talking about what a waste today was. "For the better part of six hours, I have been following these hearings, talk an hour off to do my fox business show earlier today. I don't know what was achieved… None or the witnesses provided any proof for impeachment"


I mean, people with functioning cerebral cortexes knew this. But now even Fox viewers are hearing it, if that matters at all.

Fox Viewers:

I reject your reality and substitute my own!
 
It's true, Biden only visited union auto-workers because he saw Trump visit non-union non-auto-workers and thought "hmm I should do a less retarded version of that". If not-Joe the not-plumber was still alive Trump could have brought him along too.
 
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