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POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls

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I f*c*i*g can't even...

A New Jersey case shows that even if a privileged man calls his own actions "rape," people will cover for him

An explosive story from New Jersey, however, can give us insight into an often unspoken but pervasive belief that likely fuels support for Trump and Kavanaugh: A lot of Americans simply don't see sexual assault as a real crime, if the assailants are privileged men of the "right" race, class and background.

The details of the case, as reported by the New York Times, are shocking even in the era of #MeToo, when women are stepping forward in mass numbers to tell their stories. The accused young man blockaded a visibly drunk girl in a downstairs room at a crowded party. He then penetrated her from behind, with her head hitting the wall, while recording the entire act on his phone. He then left her alone, vomiting, to be rescued by other people.

Afterwards, he sent the video to his friends, bragging in true Trumpian style, "When your first time having sex was rape."
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But even though the young man himself labeled his behavior "rape", Judge James Troiano rejected that word, saying it should be reserved for incidents when "two or more generally males [are] involved, either at gunpoint or weapon."

When prosecutors flagged the fact that the accused had literally said, "Boy, if I had a knife on me" that would have been "the epitome of this show," Troiano responded that those words were "childish" but not "out of the ordinary for a 16-year-old" to be "saying to boys, to his friends."

Troiano even scolded prosecutors for not telling the victim that pressing charges could ruin the life of a young man who has good grades and a chance at a promising future.

Sadly, the judge isn't wrong to see a promising future in this young man who brags about rape to his friends. After all, this is a country that elected Trump president and rewarded Kavanaugh with a lifetime seat on the Supreme Court.
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It's tempting to write the judge in this case off as a bad apple, of course, especially since he was taken to the woodshed by an appeals court over this decision. Unfortunately, the details of the case suggest the judge was far from alone. In fact, the accused rapist was given cover and assistance in avoiding punishment at every turn.


The young man in question sent his "rape" video to a number of people, and none of them seems to have thought it prudent to alert the authorities, until the victim's parents eventually did it. Police told the accused and his friends to delete the video, which they did. While it seems that some of these actions were focused on reducing the victim's embarrassment, what emerges is a collective picture of an entire community that didn't even stop to consider that this "promising" young man should face serious consequences for his actions.
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I'd like to vomit now.
 
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls

Yeah I posted that in the states thread a few days ago. Future SC justice
 
ScoobyDoo said:
So, Dumpy is just pumping it up to the press to keep his stupid flock thinking that he's the only one on their side.
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In thinking more that he was left in the dark about the census going to printer, and when he found out, he threw a nitty. Remember, this is right at the same time that Pence was pulled off the flight to NH and called back to the WH. I can see Trump in a frothing, spittle flying temper tantrum, heaving chairs around the Oval.

At any rate, he went on the TV today and said that the main reason he needed the question was for redistricting. Which is unconstitutional, and one of the things the Justice Dept. has been denying was the reason for it in the first place.

So yeah, welcome to losing in court.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
That's been the case for years. Fewer and fewer smarties outside of the service academies want to join up, so today it's a dumping ground for any ill-adjusted brat with a sub-100 IQ whose family isn't independently wealthy. A few years back, one of my cousins from the derpy right-wing side of the family enlisted and couldn't even get through basic, they actually threw him out for being overly insolent and incapable of following orders. :rolleyes:
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Which is why we need to bring back the draft. One, you get a better candidate pool to choose from, and Two: kids today are brought up so protected, self-entitled and full of themselves, they need that DI to kick them back down to earth a bit.

Offer up the option of some sort of national service alternative instead and its a start to making this populace just a little bit less self-absorbed.
 
rufus said:
Which is why we need to bring back the draft. One, you get a better candidate pool to choose from, and Two: kids today are brought up so protected, self-entitled and full of themselves, they need that DI to kick them back down to earth a bit.

Offer up the option of some sort of national service alternative instead and its a start to making this populace just a little bit less self-absorbed.
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The most self absorbed people in this country aren't draft age. They are about 40 years older. Unless you want to send the boomers to face drill instructors, in which case I'm cool with that.
 
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rufus said:
Which is why we need to bring back the draft. One, you get a better candidate pool to choose from, and Two: kids today are brought up so protected, self-entitled and full of themselves, they need that DI to kick them back down to earth a bit.

Offer up the option of some sort of national service alternative instead and its a start to making this populace just a little bit less self-absorbed.
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I'm not sure what sample you are using. We were just regular parents making the mistakes many do, but our kids, age 26-32, are hardworking, responsible, and interested in issues outside themselves. And I can say friends they had growing up are much the same. THAT is a small sample size too, but you have to be careful making that broad generalization.

National service is a wonderful idea, and it could be bound up with a school debt relief program. Mandatory national service of some kind has merit.
 
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People are people. These same stupid statements about kids have been made by every older generation for the last 2000 years.

Old people think young people are spoiled.

Young people think they're special.

They're both wrong. Everybody's always been the same. Always. Nobody's "greatest" or "lost." It's all bunk.
 
ticapnews said:
The fiercest fight of the Revolutionary War was not fought to secure the airports, but rather to avenge the fallen of the Bowling Green Massacre. And sure, the heroes in the Army took the airports, but what about that coward Frederick Douglass? He didn't even fight! Make no mistake though; we had to take the airports. How else were we going to launch the Space Force?
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Did the Miami Redskins do it?
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
“Breaking News: The Trump administration told a judge it would press ahead in adding a citizenship question to the census, but exactly how was left unclear.”

Per the NYT.
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He is just I tent on screwing over his lawyers in the court case over this. This should go well...
 
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unofan said:
The most self absorbed people in this country aren't draft age. They are about 40 years older. Unless you want to send the boomers to face drill instructors, in which case I'm cool with that.
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Unless you want to send the boomers to face drill instructors, in which case I'm cool with that.
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I think a bunch of those did that during Vietnam. What else you got?
 
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unofan said:
And a lot more got out of it with fake medical notes. Like the biggest narcissist of them all.
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Really? More used false medical deferments than served in Vietnam? Did more use false deferments than died there?
 
Drew S. said:
The most horrifying thing to me was the girl’s parents. It seemed like they didn’t really care about the rape, but were upset about the kid showing the video around.
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For some odd reason sex embarrasses people. Even criminal forced assault sex.
 
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burd said:
F cked up puritan ethos runs deep.
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It IS one of the most intrapersonal acts of humankind. I get it. I am not fully on board with many of the attitudes about it, but I get it.
 
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Slap Shot said:
You get it?
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I don't mean this to be confrontational, but would you be comfortable talking about video of your kid(s) having sex, much less being violated on video? I sure wouldn't. That being said, this case is pure BS.
 
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The Rube said:
I don't mean this to be confrontational, but would you be comfortable talking about video of your kid(s) having sex, much less being violated on video? I sure wouldn't. That being said, this case is pure BS.
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It wouldn't be comfortable but for the sake of my kid and hoping the as*hole that violated them never does it again I'd get it done.
 
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