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POTUS 45.5 - Sweden is Under Attack

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We somehow have money for this but ongoing maintenance of infrastructure is not available.

Well that is why we have to cut the Arts! That .06% of the budget will make a YUGE difference :rolleyes:
 
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Well that is why we have to cut the Arts! That .06% of the budget will make a YUGE difference :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, I wouldn't expect any clean water initiative's in the Trump administration. The EPA Secretary doesn't believe in it. You figured after Flint there would be something there. The new "Clean Coal" (<<<<--Trump said that at the rally he had over the weekend) legislation includes the ability to dump coal mining waste into fresh water streams, lakes, etc.

We're going to be living in a **** hole pretty soon. And clean water isn't even about global warming.
 
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Meanwhile, I wouldn't expect any clean water initiative's in the Trump administration. The EPA Secretary doesn't believe in it. You figured after Flint there would be something there. The new "Clean Coal" (<<<<--Trump said that at the rally he had over the weekend) legislation includes the ability to dump coal mining waste into fresh water streams, lakes, etc.

We're going to be living in a **** hole pretty soon. And clean water isn't even about global warming.

LOL, Michigan voted for Trump, remember?

No one cares.
 
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The new "Clean Coal" (<<<<--Trump said that at the rally he had over the weekend) ...

Clean Coal is a technology and phrase that's been around quite a while.

http://www.eerc.und.nodak.edu/Expertise/Coal-Utilization-Technologies-Center.aspx

There's a power station in ND (Young I) that's made a half-billion dollar investment in clean coal tech and has emissions down remarkably.

Meanwhile, another ND based organization is going all-in on the Allam Cycle.

https://www.basinelectric.com/News-...-potential-in-a-carbon-constrained-world.html
 
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Donald Trump lies often, but so does the media?

Stop reading Joe the plumber.

Journalists admit to it, but they think that they're doing it to get to a larger truth. A number of results come up from times long before Trump. Do a Google search on "journalism school lying question", and you'll find a number of relevant results. This one, a verbose paper from NYU: http://dlib.nyu.edu/undercover/site...files/documents/uploads/editors/Lee_Lying.pdf

FINDINGS
Fourteen of the 20 journalists said they have used deception in their work. The rest
claimed they have not but all are aware of other journalists who have—consistent
with the contention of Price (1973), in his study of situational determinants of ethical
judgments, that people in general consider others to be less ethical than themselves.
For the journalists who confess, the “confession” comes only after an extended
conversation, demonstrating a strong Kantian perspective about deception:
it is always wrong (Kant, 1785/1993). Journalistic deception, as noted by Elliot
and Culver (1992), is a prima facie wrong. There is a clear understanding that deception
is morally wrong, even among those who believe deception is acceptable
in some situations. The journalists’ vocabulary is redolent of situational ethics—“
case-by-case,” “context,” “It depends,” and “It’s circumstantial”:
I wish I could say it [deception] should never play as a factor. But I can think that, in
reality, you or someone can come up with scenarios that were perhaps justified. In
which case, the proper answer is I would hope it can be avoided at all cost but it may
have to be assessed on a case-by-case basis.
—“Bob”
 
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Meanwhile, I wouldn't expect any clean water initiative's in the Trump administration. The EPA Secretary doesn't believe in it. You figured after Flint there would be something there. The new "Clean Coal" (<<<<--Trump said that at the rally he had over the weekend) legislation includes the ability to dump coal mining waste into fresh water streams, lakes, etc.

We're going to be living in a **** hole pretty soon. And clean water isn't even about global warming.

Mr. Walker is in the process of gutting the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources and now has a perpetual woody over Trump's environmental policies. Their shared desire to return us to the 50s apparently includes a vision of dead lakes and streams, bad air, and plumes of VOCs. Yay CERCLA.
 
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Mr. Walker is in the process of gutting the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources and now has a perpetual woody over Trump's environmental policies. Their shared desire to return us to the 50s apparently includes a vision of dead lakes and streams, bad air, and plumes of VOCs. Yay CERCLA.

I really do not understand how that is "conservative"? But, I digress. Bye Bye environment.

Guardian EnvironmentVerified account
‏@guardianeco

New EPA head Scott Pruitt's emails reveal close ties with fossil fuel interests
 
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I really do not understand how that is "conservative"? But, I digress. Bye Bye environment.

There is not even a party any longer for the true lower "c" conservative. The current Republican party is for tea bag racists and the 1/10 of 1%ers who care only about getting richer today at the expense of anything else.
 
This is weirdly true. I was talking with a local contractor about this last week. We live in the least populated county in MI (Keweenaw) where 99% of the sheriff's work involves snow and ice-related mishaps, and snowblowing disputes between neighbors Ed and Fred. Once in a while a dog lost to wolf attack. It's so homogeneous and staid (where it's developed at all) that our largest minority population is Sasquatch.
Yet my friend was given a look into a "warehouse" that is chock-full of riot gear, battering rams, body armor, night vision, "tank tracks" etc. etc. you name it, that the sheriff has absolutely no use for... but they can't get "homeland security" to stop sending them stuff.
It's completely bizarre.

Couldn't agree more. I don't actually know anyone in favor of it yet it goes on. So much money wasted post 9/11.
 
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I really do not understand how that is "conservative"? But, I digress. Bye Bye environment.

Because conservative "job creators" like John Menard in Wisconsin donate big $$$ to Walker's campaigns, and Menard would gladly dump toxic sludge in his mother's backyard if it meant saving him a couple of bucks. Not to mention quid pro quo tax credits for said donations.

http://www.wisdc.org/InfluencePeddler2016June
 
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Because conservative "job creators" like John Menard in Wisconsin donate big $$$ to Walker's campaigns, and Menard would gladly dump toxic sludge in his mother's backyard if it meant saving him a couple of bucks. Not to mention quid pro quo tax credits for said donations.

http://www.wisdc.org/InfluencePeddler2016June

Never ceases to amaze how greed trumps all else. Nothing else matters or has ever mattered.
 
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70% of what dribbles out of Trump's face is a lie (per Politifact). He's dishonest on a level rarely seen in politics (never before in the U.S.), and that I've never heard of in real journalism (I'm discounting intentional satire)*. So why does anyone trust him at all? I heard an interesting explanation on The Gist today from a psychologist explaining how it works for him. We are hardwired to believe what we're told. When someone lies constantly, we get tired of analyzing what they say and throwing the "false" switch in our brain 70% of the time. So we just start to accept what is said anyway if it doesn't seem to matter too much. Pretty soon we are accepting that Trump is a great businessman, that he won the presidency by "a large margin", that he's "very very rich", and other seemingly empty claims. It quickly creeps into important things like Mexican rapists, unvetted refugees, etc., so we need to stay on high alert.
There was a study with a batch of students who were asked things like "Which ocean is larger, the Atlantic or Pacific?" They answered correctly at first, but the more times the question was asked of them the more they doubted reality and switched over to the Atlantic. This is the gain to be had from blatant repetitive lying.
*I guess Trump's methods do align with many state-controlled media outlets of dictatorships; so that's the precedent we're working from. He's Stalinesque.
 
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70% of what dribbles out of Trump's face is a lie (per Politifact). He's dishonest on a level rarely seen in politics (never before in the U.S.), and that I've never heard of in real journalism (I'm discounting intentional satire)*.

33 days without an accident of honesty.
 
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And so it begins. Hard to believe that DeVos the idiot is actually right on something. But, it doesn't matter. She'd rather keep her job then resign on principle.

WASHINGTON — A fight over an order that would rescind protections for transgender students in public schools has erupted inside the Trump administration, pitting Attorney General Jeff Sessions against the secretary of education, Betsy DeVos.

Ms. DeVos initially resisted signing off on the order and told President Trump that she was uncomfortable with it, according to three Republicans with direct knowledge of the internal discussions. The draft order would reverse the directives put in place last year by the Obama administration to allow transgender students to use the bathrooms of their choice.

Mr. Sessions, who strongly opposes expanding gay, lesbian and transgender rights, fought Ms. DeVos on the issue and pressed her to relent because he could not go forward without her consent. The order must come from the Justice and Education Departments.

Mr. Trump sided with his attorney general, these Republicans said, telling Ms. DeVos in a meeting in the Oval Office on Tuesday that he wanted her to drop her objections. And Ms. DeVos, faced with the choice of resigning or defying the president, has agreed to go along. The Justice Department declined to comment on Wednesday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/...ts-rights.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
 
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