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POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

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unofan said:
In this case, manipulate is simply innuendo for "obstructed judicial appointments to an extent never before seen."

And you're still assuming he wouldn't have gone nuclear himself, when all available evidence supports a contrary conclusion (including the fact he went nuclear for SCOTUS right away).
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Yes, that is diabolical manipulation defined. Glad you see it. That's what administrative manipulators do. And Mitch is good at that (not much else).

And yes, all we have is circumstantial evidence: the trigger was pulled before Mitch could get to it so we'll never know.
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
That’s fine. Sic says it’s all ok. We gotta shut down social security to build a wall that keeps out the people who are a net positive for social security.
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Like someone said, Trump (Mr. Deal Maker) will give away whatever you want about now to get that wall. Graft. Largess. All up for grabs!
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Paul Ryan says that Trump has legitimate Border Security concerns. You know, like all the illegals he hires at his golf courses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOnl7Kwnjbg
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Funny, then why did Red Don tweet out today, or maybe yesterday, that border security was "tight", none of those nasty caravaners were let through.

If it's "tight", then why do we need a wall?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Senate passed CR without a single objection. House could likely pass it with a veto proof majority to keep the government open. Which means Paul Ryan is choosing to end his career in a government shutdown to satisfy President Trump.</p>— Rep. Joe Kennedy III (@RepJoeKennedy) <a href="https://twitter.com/RepJoeKennedy/status/1075854418510311424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Handyman said:
We really need to stop pretending all the people who leave are the lone voice trying to stop him from doing stuff then quitting out of principle. Mattis was/is/and always will be scum just like everyone else that chose to be associated with this clown. His replacement will be the same way and he will quit too.

Guys like Mattis arent stopping Trump from doing anything...the proof is the fact that Trump is doing everything he says he wants to do. They are only leaving because they cant get over on him and it isnt worth letting someone with an IQ less than Forest Gump have power over you. It is ego plain and simple.
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Or maybe like Sessions, Mattis was "asked" to leave after raising hell over Red Don's unilateral decision to pull out of Syria, and just putting the proper "dignified resignation" spin on it.

Any of you "not a Trump supporter, but" folks feeling the least little bit of regret now? You were warned that this administration would be an incompetent fustercluck from the get-go, but you were all for it anyway cause you needed to shake up Washington. How's that working out for you?
 
The Sicatoka said:
Yes, that is diabolical manipulation defined. Glad you see it. That's what administrative manipulators do. And Mitch is good at that (not much else).

And yes, all we have is circumstantial evidence: the trigger was pulled before Mitch could get to it so we'll never know.
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You may never know, but you'd be the only one.

And your definition of manipulation is asinine. It's like saying, "Hey, I hit your car. Lol, I manipulated you into contacting your insurance company."
 
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Handyman said:
We really need to stop pretending all the people who leave are the lone voice trying to stop him from doing stuff then quitting out of principle. Mattis was/is/and always will be scum just like everyone else that chose to be associated with this clown. His replacement will be the same way and he will quit too.

Guys like Mattis arent stopping Trump from doing anything...the proof is the fact that Trump is doing everything he says he wants to do. They are only leaving because they cant get over on him and it isnt worth letting someone with an IQ less than Forest Gump have power over you. It is ego plain and simple.
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Easy to say that without any kind of personal inside knowledge. On the other hand, all of the insider accounts tell us the same thing: guys like Mattis and Kelly have been working to keep the real Flaggys out.

You might be willing to take the risk that Mattis et. al. are Flaggys, but is that something you really want to wager? I don’t.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Easy to say that without any kind of personal inside knowledge. On the other hand, all of the insider accounts tell us the same thing: guys like Mattis and Kelly have been working to keep the real Flaggys out.

You might be willing to take the risk that Mattis et. al. are Flaggys, but is that something you really want to wager? I don’t.
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No but the more you all cry wolf about that stuff (and are proven wrong, none of the new crowd has done anything to change anything) the worse it looks. No one is stopping Trump from doing anything it has been made abundantly clear. The crazies are already there you and a few others just hold out hope they arent as crazy as you think they are. Here is a hint...THEY ARE! They were never not there...the Flaggys helped get him elected. Why do you think Flynn was there...he is the bird dog of these clowns. They arent being kept at bay, they were always there and Trump is A-1 on the list.

Mattis is a war monger and crazy. He also is so in bed with certain regimes (**cough** Saudi Arabia) that he doesnt care when they assassinate people.
 
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If I hear Pelosi and Schumer say, "temper tantrum" one more time I might have one. Trump sucks beyond words but enough with the useless rhetoric. You can scour him in a more controlled way and perhaps I'm speaking to something that makes no difference to anyone but I personally don't like it.
 
Slap Shot said:
If I hear Pelosi and Schumer say, "temper tantrum" one more time I might have one. Trump sucks beyond words but enough with the useless rhetoric. You can scour him in a more controlled way and perhaps I'm speaking to something that makes no difference to anyone but I personally don't like it.
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It's what he is doing.. May as well call it what it is.
 
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Handyman said:
No but the more you all cry wolf about that stuff (and are proven wrong, none of the new crowd has done anything to change anything) the worse it looks. No one is stopping Trump from doing anything it has been made abundantly clear. The crazies are already there you and a few others just hold out hope they arent as crazy as you think they are. Here is a hint...THEY ARE! They were never not there...the Flaggys helped get him elected. Why do you think Flynn was there...he is the bird dog of these clowns. They arent being kept at bay, they were always there and Trump is A-1 on the list.

Mattis is a war monger and crazy. He also is so in bed with certain regimes (**cough** Saudi Arabia) that he doesnt care when they assassinate people.
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Mattis may be a piece of ****. But I’m not entirely convinced of it.

Beyond that, your entire argument falls apart when you realize the even worse piece of **** that replaces him. That’s the point I’m making.

And I’m also not sure how any of this has been proven wrong so far...
 
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I get you FTLT. I kind of like this:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Okay, Republicans. How much longer are you going to let this farcical “presidency” continue? At a time of such political, economic, and geo-strategic turbulence—both nationally and globally—are you waiting for a catastrophe to happen before acting? Disaster looms! <a href="https://t.co/9IdC6qXwtK">https://t.co/9IdC6qXwtK</a></p>— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/status/1075884498955456512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

House passed bill with 5B for the wall. Headed to senate
 
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Things have been going very badly for Fearless Leader the past couple of months. This is about where he usually calls either his bankruptcy lawyers or his dad.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Wait, what?
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http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx

7:58:11 P.M. H.R. 695 On motion that the House agree with an amendment to the Senate amendment to the House amendment to the Senate Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 217 - 185 (Roll no. 472).

It's predicted to be D.O.A. when it heads back to the Senate because the Republicans don't have enough votes between themselves.
 
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