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POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

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Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

I've been holding off on this until, well, way after lunch.

And give now we've seen the scalp, and you thinking it can't get worse .... WRONG!

Adam Schiff sent his staff to try and collect 'classified materials for the FBI' after Russian (pranksters) told him Putin has NAKED blackmail pictures of Trump

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ssian-claim-nude-Trump-pic.html#ixzz56SlbfUoR

Now you can see why I waited until long after lunch. ;) :D
 
Rover said:
Where do all of you people work, on a farm? Your employer's insurance co should be negotiating lower rates for doctor's visits and we're given a certain amount of money by the corporation that's put into our HSA.

And don't get me started on mookie's benefits. Lets just say "sensual massages" are covered as part of essential services. :eek:
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I work for the largest insurer. They have negotiated. I live in Minneapolis. Specialists in network are still horribly expensive
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
A lot of Americans are just disgusting people, period. I had to watch the movie Sicko again for a class assignment and it’s almost harder to watch now than before. Many here don’t give a crap about anyone else. The parts where regular citizens in several other nations talk about their beliefs that Health care is a right is really hard to watch. Here we have people furious about such concepts and think it’s more important to have their gun collection.
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From my archair as many Americans are in agreement on universal health care as the rest of the civilized world we just haven't elected the right people to get it done. I've traveled A LOT outside the US and have lived elsewhere as well. People are the same at the base level, from there differences and idiosyncrasies kick in. Even then we're more similar than a lot of people are willing to admit or recognize and not even necessarily worse off. The outwardly "nice" factor here makes Minnesotans look cold but there's an underlying, "I'll cut your throat mentality". And in a country where 90%+ profess to being Catholic (the following is not a shot at the denomination) adultery and children being born out of wedlock are ever present. There's a McDonalds on every street corner in Bangkok. Bahrainis could drink Wisconsin under the table. Racism in SE Asia and the Middle East dwarfs Trump Nation's zealotry. Etc., Etc.

This is not to say we don't get a lot wrong and shouldn't aspire to be better, but it's not an inherently American Trait to s**t on one's neighbor anymore than anywhere else.
 
Slap Shot said:
From my archair as many Americans are in agreement on universal health care as the rest of the civilized world we just haven't elected the right people to get it done. I've traveled A LOT outside the US and have lived elsewhere as well. People are the same at the base level, from there differences and idiosyncrasies kick in. Even then we're more similar than a lot of people are willing to admit or recognize and not even necessarily worse off. The outwardly "nice" factor here makes Minnesotans look cold but there's an underlying, "I'll cut your throat mentality". And in a country where 90%+ profess to being Catholic (the following is not a shot at the denomination) adultery and children being born out of wedlock are ever present. There's a McDonalds on every street corner in Bangkok. Bahrainis could drink Wisconsin under the table. Racism in SE Asia and the Middle East dwarfs Trump Nation's zealotry. Etc., Etc.

This is not to say we don't get a lot wrong and shouldn't aspire to be better, but it's not an inherently American Trait to s**t on one's neighbor anymore than anywhere else.
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I get your point. But I’ve lived in a few European nations and overall they just have better attitudes on healthcare.
 
Slap Shot said:
From my archair as many Americans are in agreement on universal health care as the rest of the civilized world we just haven't elected the right people to get it done. I've traveled A LOT outside the US and have lived elsewhere as well. People are the same at the base level, from there differences and idiosyncrasies kick in. Even then we're more similar than a lot of people are willing to admit or recognize and not even necessarily worse off. The outwardly "nice" factor here makes Minnesotans look cold but there's an underlying, "I'll cut your throat mentality". And in a country where 90%+ profess to being Catholic (the following is not a shot at the denomination) adultery and children being born out of wedlock are ever present. There's a McDonalds on every street corner in Bangkok. Bahrainis could drink Wisconsin under the table. Racism in SE Asia and the Middle East dwarfs Trump Nation's zealotry. Etc., Etc.

This is not to say we don't get a lot wrong and shouldn't aspire to be better, but it's not an inherently American Trait to s**t on one's neighbor anymore than anywhere else.
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Look at France.
 
Rover said:
Where do all of you people work, on a farm? Your employer's insurance co should be negotiating lower rates for doctor's visits and we're given a certain amount of money by the corporation that's put into our HSA.
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My wife works for the hospital. Our deductible is very high (Although in truth I don’t mind that as we are generally pretty healthy and I’d guess in most years our payout for visits is less than what the higher premium would be for a smaller deductible.

Who is given money for their HSA? The only funds we have in there is what we choose to put in in pre-tax dollars.
 
ericredaxe said:
My wife works for the hospital. Our deductible is very high (Although in truth I don’t mind that as we are generally pretty healthy and I’d guess in most years our payout for visits is less than what the higher premium would be for a smaller deductible.

Who is given money for their HSA? The only funds we have in there is what we choose to put in in pre-tax dollars.
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I think my employer puts like $500 in if I max out
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

Part of the health insurance* problem in the US is that it became an "employee benefit" and not something that you were personally responsible for.

Discuss.


*The second problem is there: insurance is not care; care is not insurance. Let's use the right term in the right context.
 
The Sicatoka said:
Part of the health insurance* problem in the US is that it became an "employee benefit" and not something that you were personally responsible for.

Discuss.
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Attaching "personal responsibility" to something that is, more often than not, beyond our own control, is asinine.

Yeah, I sure wasn't responsible when my genetics caused my eyesight to be poor. And fark those irresponsible cancer patients.
 
unofan said:
Attaching "personal responsibility" to something that is, more often than not, beyond our own control, is asinine.

Yeah, I sure wasn't responsible when my genetics caused my eyesight to be poor. And fark those irresponsible cancer patients.
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Illustrates my point perfectly.
I agree it shouldn’t be provided by employers. It also shouldn’t be personal responsibility.
 
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I get $1,500 per year in my HSA from my new employer, old one gave nothing in the HSA but cost of medical was about $1,000/yr less.
 
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unofan said:
Attaching "personal responsibility" to something that is, more often than not, beyond our own control, is asinine.

Yeah, I sure wasn't responsible when my genetics caused my eyesight to be poor. And fark those irresponsible cancer patients.
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News flash: Life isn't fair.

The "beyond our own control" is a questionable criteria: I can't control a drunk driver from wiping out my car.
Should we have universal auto insurance because car accidents are "beyond our own control"?

Now, for my completely heartless statement:
Some cancer patients, well, frankly, I don't pity self-inflicted wounds. Keep suckin' down cancer sticks and then act surprised.

And the person with the "bad genetic draw"? Please don't challenge me on that. I carry ΔF508 and R117H (7T). I've been very lucky ... so far.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Should we have universal auto insurance because car accidents are "beyond our own control"?
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We do. It's mandatory to carry liability insurance for being on the road in every state and country I've ever been in.
 
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