POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

[Handyman]

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I think you underestimate the impact the election of Obama had on some people.

Yeah...it is pretty wild how much people really hate him. And it isnt like they hate him like they hated Bill Clinton (in fact Bill is often who they sight as one of the "good ones" ) they honestly have something deeply rooted. Hell the amount of people who dont even hide it is insane.

And this isnt just in the South or even just in Red States...go 45 minutes outside of major cities in Minnesota and bring up his name. The reaction is kind of amazing. (in an awful way)

 

[Jimjamesak]

Yeah...it is pretty wild how much people really hate him. And it isnt like they hate him like they hated Bill Clinton (in fact Bill is often who they sight as one of the "good ones" ) they honestly have something deeply rooted. Hell the amount of people who dont even hide it is insane.

And this isnt just in the South or even just in Red States...go 45 minutes outside of major cities in Minnesota and bring up his name. The reaction is kind of amazing. (in an awful way)

I see it first hand here in Anchorage, irrational hatred towards any mention of him. People will blame anything and everything on him.

 

[French Rage]

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Apparently Bob Corker is a globalist-roader now!

 

[Slap Shot]

I think you underestimate the impact the election of Obama had on some people.

No, no I don't.

 

[alfablue]

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No matter how many times you repeat this it still won't be true.



I don't want to downplay the seriousness of things we've seen on display of late, but let's not overplay them either. The conditions that existed in 1930's Germany do not exist in the United States. Particularly large scale dissatisfaction from losing a major war with more than 3 million war time deaths and 4.5 million wounded, the perception of a stab in the back reason for losing the war, the hatred of peace terms enforced by an enemy, a total economic collapse, nor constitutional provisions that aided dictatorship and widespread, virulent antisemitism.

We have issues and need to remain on alert but to overreact would be an unhealthy distraction and plays right into Trump's handler's hands.

Maybe, but the parallels are still in place. It's as if history is repeating itself. Thugs are trying to intimidate people to think like they do, and they are the minority. And their point is somehow they are superior just because of who they are.

The fact they feel emboldened to come out BECAUSE of this president is disturbing. And disturbing that dump barely blames them for murdering someone.

Apparently, dump isn't going to stop them, so we are forced to.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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It's called a history book dip ****

We don't need monuments to the traitors.

And then when the book burning starts? Because that's what comes after the monuments...

 

[French Rage]

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You're all familiar with the poem:

First they came after the monuments, and I did nothing.
Then they came after the books, and I did nothing.
Then they came after the xylophones, and I did nothing.
At this point, it became clear to me they were picking **** at random.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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I'm five minutes into the Vice special.
JFC.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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And this isnt just in the South or even just in Red States...go 45 minutes outside of major cities in Minnesota and bring up his name. The reaction is kind of amazing. (in an awful way)

Yep. Head out into Michissippi, walk into a local bar, mention his name, and watch the barflies' heads explode.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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And then when the book burning starts? Because that's what comes after the monuments...

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[WeAreNDHockey]

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I think you underestimate the impact the election of Obama had on some people.

I still find it hard to believe he was even elected. Sometimes I think his election is so bizarre I'm surprised the derps never really alleged election fraud, because he even won FRIKKIN' INDIANA once!

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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I still find it hard to believe he was even elected. Sometimes I think his election is so bizarre I'm surprised the derps never really alleged election fraud, because he even won FRIKKIN' INDIANA once!

Recall that in 2016, many counties that voted for Obama twice, flipped to Dump. Can we honestly say that the flippers in those counties are racist? Or that the racists suddenly woke up to the Trump dog whistle and turned out in droves, after being disappointed with Milquetoast Mitt and Fossil McCain?

I don't think this election was all about racism, even though it exists in far greater proportion than we'd care to acknowledge. I think this election is about a boring but competent Democratic candidate, who had bad advisers and ran a terrible campaign strategy that failed to inspire enough of Obama's voters to show up in key states.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Recall that in 2016, many counties that voted for Obama twice, flipped to Dump. Can we honestly say that the flippers in those counties are racist? Or that the racists suddenly woke up to the Trump dog whistle and turned out in droves, after being disappointed with Milquetoast Mitt and Fossil McCain?

I don't think this election was all about racism, even though it exists in far greater proportion than we'd care to acknowledge. I think this election is about a boring but competent Democratic candidate, who had bad advisers and ran a terrible campaign strategy that failed to inspire enough of Obama's voters to show up in key states.

No. You heard over and over and over again from the centrists that they were the same. No difference. Then you had the Democrats with their purity test. Then you had the misogyny. Those 3 together took her down.

 

[E.J. Smith]

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I think you underestimate the impact the election of Obama had on some people.

This.

I figured it was a tough loss but I'm one of those coastal elites so it's only now that it's clear that heads must have freaking exploded back in 2008.

It's astounding and appalling how broad and deep the racism is in this country. I know there's been a huge amount of economic disruption, and it's a legitimate and truly serious issue, but for people to go so strongly and completely to racism in their response to it goes to an absolutely gigantic vein of racism in our society.

 

[leswp1]

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That's exactly how these groups work. Mussolini's blackshirts justified their attacks as a response to Communists and Anarchists, and of course as protecting the pure womenfolk of Italy against the dangerous predations of minorities or libertines. Protecting virginity is always big with paramilitary rightwingers. Their sexual dysfunction and religious fanaticism color everything they see.

The far right is basically just the lingering adolescent cry that Prom went badly.

I forgot the Commie part- all those violent lefties are also COmmies come out of the closet. The irony of supporting a prez who wants to do the nasty with Putin is not escaping me but it does escape them.

Sadly, we didn't get to hear the swearing on the NPR interview this morning. Bummer.

What I don't get about the white house group- who in the world is really controlling the message??? Not including dump- who is off on his own. If I were the Chief of Staff, I'd kick Bannon out just for doing what he did.

It isn't about who is in control. It is about who gets more attention. Like a bunch of rich kids vying for Daddy's attention when he comes home. Daddy being the media- doesn't matter what kind of attention. Only that they get more than the next guy

And you were voting for security right...good thing we didnt have Hillary as President we might actually feel a bit secure. She certainly wouldnt have given away classified information hand to hand though I a sure you and your friends would have pretended she did even after she was cleared of it.

No matter how many times you repeat this it still won't be true.

I don't want to downplay the seriousness of things we've seen on display of late, but let's not overplay them either. The conditions that existed in 1930's Germany do not exist in the United States. Particularly large scale dissatisfaction from losing a major war with more than 3 million war time deaths and 4.5 million wounded, the perception of a stab in the back reason for losing the war, the hatred of peace terms enforced by an enemy, a total economic collapse, nor constitutional provisions that aided dictatorship and widespread, virulent antisemitism.

We have issues and need to remain on alert but to overreact would be an unhealthy distraction and plays right into Trump's handler's hands.

Considering the ability to expertly manipulate the media do you think that matters? There are certain sites that will tell you the same conditions exist now.

I see it first hand here in Anchorage, irrational hatred towards any mention of him. People will blame anything and everything on him.

This reminds me of the knee jerk reaction my Dad has to any mention of a Kennedy. I have never been able to get him to articulate anything other than he is bad

Maybe, but the parallels are still in place. It's as if history is repeating itself. Thugs are trying to intimidate people to think like they do, and they are the minority. And their point is somehow they are superior just because of who they are.

The fact they feel emboldened to come out BECAUSE of this president is disturbing. And disturbing that dump barely blames them for murdering someone.

Apparently, dump isn't going to stop them, so we are forced to.

I admit to feeling intimidated

 

[E.J. Smith]

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No. You heard over and over and over again from the centrists that they were the same. No difference. Then you had the Democrats with their purity test. Then you had the misogyny. Those 3 together took her down.

You need to add in what passes for journalism now. tRump ran a reality show for a campaign and the media companies couldn't give him enough free air time - just as long as we all tuned in in slack jawed awe at the spectacle - and those "journalists" sure weren't going to call him on any of his crass idiocy because see us all tuning in to watch.

 

[E.J. Smith]

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Maybe, but the parallels are still in place. It's as if history is repeating itself. Thugs are trying to intimidate people to think like they do, and they are the minority. And their point is somehow they are superior just because of who they are.

The fact they feel emboldened to come out BECAUSE of this president is disturbing. And disturbing that dump barely blames them for murdering someone.

Apparently, dump isn't going to stop them, so we are forced to.

This is why I think one of the more underappreciated stories this week is the CEOs jumping ship. If we're going with the 1930s parallel, that didn't happen back then, the corporations rode their horse right up to and past when it turned into a fire breathing dragon. Their economy being in utter disarray and ours being the strongest in the world have more than a little to do with that. They had nothing to lose, we do. Of course, 4, or god forbid 8, years of tRump might solve that "problem."

 

[BassAle]

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And then when the book burning starts? Because that's what comes after the monuments...

no it doesn't you stupid ****. I don't have a problem reading about Adolph Hitler, I do have a problem putting up a statue to memorialize him.

 

[E.J. Smith]

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Finally, do people really not see the difference between monuments to people who fought FOR this country and monuments to people who fought AGAINST this country? Really? That can't be that hard.

We're talking, literally, about monuments to traitors who fought against the United States and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. In 50 years are we going to be putting up monuments to the 9/11 hi jackers? Because the only difference there is that they weren't also traitors and killed far fewer Americans.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Finally, do people really not see the difference between monuments to people who fought FOR this country and monuments to people who fought AGAINST this country? Really? That can't be that hard.

We're talking, literally, about monuments to traitors who fought against the United States and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. In 50 years are we going to be putting up monuments to the 9/11 hi jackers? Because the only difference there is that they weren't also traitors and killed far fewer Americans.

One man's traitor is another man's "free-dumb fighter". "The South shall rise again!"