And Kennedy Blair as a graduate transfer. No shade at the transfers, they are everywhere and it’s their right. I did get a kick out of “Transfers 3 - OSU 2.”
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Playoff Results 2021
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And Kennedy Blair as a graduate transfer. No shade at the transfers, they are everywhere and it’s their right. I did get a kick out of “Transfers 3 - OSU 2.”
robertearle
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and Kyleigh Hanzlik, from Wisconsin
Offsides Guy
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No arguing that. The issue some of us have with women’s hockey transfers is the pool of top talent isn’t that deep so transfers can have an outsized impact on a team’s performance. And it’s a double hit because the program the transfer leaves is typically left further in the dust which also isn’t great for the sport.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
When D2D made his post, it actually made me go back and check if a HS recruit goalie had won a game for UW in the last four years. I'd forgotten that Blesi had a few wins last year. It does make me wonder how Wisconsin, which has been Goaltender U over most of its history, got in the position where it has been as reliant on G transfers as it has been over the past few years. There were a lot of years where the Badgers' second-string goalie was better than just about every opponent's starter. That hasn't been the case since Desbiens became the starter. I wonder what changed.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
I am a goalie centric guy and this is really baffling to me. Cece was the heir apparent to the goalie throne after ARD. She played well when ARD was injured and I felt really good about her. They lucked into Soup when the Sue shut down the program (so I would not call her a typical transfer). They did recruit her out of HS but lost out to the Sue. Anyway, she shut Cece and Blesi out for 3 years. This year Blesi was the apparent to the goalie throne (though I had concerns about her when she filled in when Soup was injured; there was the Mankato meltdown) with Kronish or freshman Gervais (who there isn't much known about) as the back-up, but somehow they get the grad transfer Blair and she wins the starting spot. Next year does/can Blair come back or will she have her masters after this season and be done?
Hockeybuckeye
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https://victorypress.org/2021/03/07...olonials-college-hockey-america-championship/
Meant to post this earlier in the week. Nice recap of the CHA final by Melissa Burgess. Interesting quote from Flanagan that his team didn’t have a single positive Covid test this year, but that they played least games in the league due to other teams cancelling on them.
As to RMU and the strangeness of sports - I think they were weaker offensively this year without Gebhard. And 2 years before that they took a hit when Brit Howard graduated. Who would have thought this is the year they win CHAs.
Meant to post this earlier in the week. Nice recap of the CHA final by Melissa Burgess. Interesting quote from Flanagan that his team didn’t have a single positive Covid test this year, but that they played least games in the league due to other teams cancelling on them.
As to RMU and the strangeness of sports - I think they were weaker offensively this year without Gebhard. And 2 years before that they took a hit when Brit Howard graduated. Who would have thought this is the year they win CHAs.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
The top four in the CHA were so evenly matched. Three games, 11 goals total, and all one-goal games. Not much has to change in order to get a different outcome. A key save, a bounce, a call, and a game can swing on very little.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Once Mercyhurst quit being an at-large team, the CHA has been balanced enough that, especially among the top three, no surprise was that surprising. Okay, RIT's worst-to-first in the tourney was a surprise, but there have been a lot of OT and other one-goal games. Weren't many years where, given the choice, I'd have taken the favorite over the rest of the field.
Yep. And even in the years that RMU had Howard/Gebhard, Hurst had Nuutinen so maybe it all cancels out. It actually makes for more interesting hockey, the parity. The CHA is more fun to follow now than it was in 2014, even though up until end of 2020 there was no team making a case for an at large bid.
Recruiting challenges exist, but I’m always hopeful Mercyhurst (and if not them, any CHA team) will emerge as a clear top ten team. It seems Penn State is on that path.
In the long term, growth of girls hockey in Pittsburgh, north east Ohio and western New York is what I think will help this league. Presumably the Columbus girls would aspire to Ohio State. Right now star players from these areas are choosing to play elsewhere (most recently Kasidy Anderson who did great things at NU, and Chayla Edwards who chose Wisconsin). As volume of players increase in the area, maybe that’ll help the CHA. Izzy Heminger from Columbus - the first girls hockey player for the local Columbus minor hockey system to get to D1 - chose Penn State back when they had a different coach. She was 2nd team all CHA this year. A great story, a win for Penn State, and for the development of girls hockey in this area (aka the CHA area).
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
No doubt. I think that recent stability will also start to pay dividends. Few probably remember Findlay, or that Quinnipiac was once in the league, but losing Wayne State and Niagara in back-to-back seasons had to hurt.
I do think being home to transfers when programs get cut is kind of a different story. Those players are program less.You do wonder how scholarships are available but maybe people get academic money.
Speaking of transfers...
It might be considered a transfer rumor but would not be surprised at all if it was not true from what I have heard first hand from some OSU recruits over the last couple of years...
Have heard from more than 1 person in the last few days (who run in completely different circles) that Ohio State has let their current freshman know that there will be ZERO scholly $$$ available to them next season. There will be "better players transferring in next season" and they can look for another place to play cuz their $$$ will be going to the better players. True or false this is sad, scary and flat out gross but feels par for the course from what I have heard over the years about Muzzy...beware OSU commits!
robertearle
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(I'm sure this will be a BIG topic of conversation in the coming weeks and months, but...)
I have two things to add, neither particularly definitive and neither having to do specifically with Ohio State.
- this web site says that the NCAA has told D1 schools that "For D1 fall sports, seniors who have scholarships and who will be using the extra year of eligibility will not count against the team’s scholarship limit for the 2021-22 season." It does not mention winter sports in its section on scholarships, so there may well NOT be a similar waiver, etc, for hockey.
https://www.ncsasports.org/coronavirus-sports/ncaa-eligibility-coronavirus
- Just this week, the Wisconsin volleyball coach did a podcast (with a well-known retired D1 volleyball coach, Terry Pettet) and the UW coach was asked "At the beginning of COVID, Wisconsin Athletic Director Barry Alvarez announced early on that Wisconsin would not be allowing seniors to pursue another year of eligibility in 2021. Has he reconsidered that?" "Yeah, or players will have the ability to return if they want to... we've given that option to our players."
Now, volleyball is a "fall sport", so the scholarship limits that hockey might have, he won't. And the coach did not specifically address scholarships or money.
So that's FWIW.
Bur I think OSU would be nuts to pass on four more years (and remember, not three, but four) having players like Buglioni and Brengman in exchange for a year of some fifth-year eligible senior transfer from somewhere else, for example.
robertearle
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... and if you are planning on messing with their lives like that, you sure as hell shouldn't tell them just before they play in the national championships!
TonyTheTiger20
#SOAR
Tourney preview for BCI: https://www.bcinterruption.com/bost...frozen-four-northeastern-wisconsin-ohio-state
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Yeah, but it is Muzzy. There is a reason she goes through assistant coaches like they are car engine filters.
Tony, great preview.
I agree the UMD Colgate matchup is hard to pick. If Colgate wins, it also invites a conversation about how good St Lawrence is and where they fit in the ECAC next year.
One thing about Frankel that really impressed me was last year when she made her national team debut in a rivalry series game in Canada in front of thousands of Canadians who obvs were cheering for Canada, broadcast on tv as well. That was a big moment that Frankel handled well. While NU has to adjust to the tougher teams at some point in the tournament, I don’t think Frankel will be fazed.
I’ve never said this before but: Let’s go, Bobby Mo.
I agree the UMD Colgate matchup is hard to pick. If Colgate wins, it also invites a conversation about how good St Lawrence is and where they fit in the ECAC next year.
One thing about Frankel that really impressed me was last year when she made her national team debut in a rivalry series game in Canada in front of thousands of Canadians who obvs were cheering for Canada, broadcast on tv as well. That was a big moment that Frankel handled well. While NU has to adjust to the tougher teams at some point in the tournament, I don’t think Frankel will be fazed.
I’ve never said this before but: Let’s go, Bobby Mo.