Plattsburgh State Hockey 2010-11

[Birdwatcher]

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Unfortunately I am unable to go to the Stafford for the game tonight. I am listening on the radio. Where is the Pep Band? The organist that has been doing the games for years and years was told his services would no longer be needed because they have a pep band. Seems very quiet there!

 

[CardsFan91]

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Did you hear that noise?! Oh, that's just me hitting the PANIC BUTTON!

1-8 on the power play, turnovers in the defensive zone, a soft goal, and undisciplined hockey results in a 3-2 loss.

There is no joy in Mudville tonight - the mighty Cardinals have lost at home.

 

[sticksnstones]

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I think Taco Rob is going to figure out a way to blame Leis

 

[wallhd]

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Had the Cards played this poorly against Oswego last week, the result would have been an 8 or 10 goal loss.

C'mon Cards, show us what you can REALLY do !!


Wally
Cornell '67

 

[Bill-R-]

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Hats off to Morrisville on the win. PSU lost this game in the first period. The Cards couldn't capitalize on the 8 mins of power-play time. Then Williams gives up a SUPER SOFT goal. Also in the first, Satim blocks a shot and gets an upperbody injury. Hopefully, it is not a long term thing.

 

[LoudHorns31]

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Sloppy about sums it up for me. passes were either way infront of the receiver, way behind him or in his skates..... they couldn't seem to make up their minds.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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I think Taco Rob is going to figure out a way to blame Leis

I had this exact same thought!

 

[TacoRob]

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Nah...There is one thing that's for sure, though - Plattsburgh is in some real trouble this year. Not only from a goaltending perspective, but all the way 'round. Tonight's game against Morrisville was just painful - and while our goaltending is unstable this year (at best), it hasn't been helped by our lines skating into each other - and defensive "coverage" that has more holes than swiss cheese.

While I wasn't impressed with Leis' performance against Oswego (yes, to his credit he made some INCREDIBLE saves - but there was a lot of garbage he put out there as well), I was hoping to see the same energy and fight we had. Despite a rough start to the season, it did seem as if Plattsburgh was a contender against one of the top teams in the nation.

...at least, so I thought. The performance by the team tonight was nothing short of embarrassing. Morrisville can be a solid team to go up against, but for Plattsburgh to go out there and throw down two lifeless periods is atrocious. We've had rough starts the entire season (excluding the Brockport game), but man...perhaps instead of celebrating the "Year of the Fan" they could work on getting back to basics? You know, silly stuff like making plays, going after the puck, and perhaps even being a contender?

I truly hope they can turn things around and fix these gaping holes. We've had problems with defensive coverage for a long time, but the team that was on the ice tonight...wow. It almost had the sense of an entirely green lineup trying to get their bearings. It's hard to believe this is most of the team from last year.

Tonight's game completely befuddled me, but regardless my take on it is available at
http://www.therobbrennan.com/journa...-falls-3-2-to-morrisville-in-home-opener.html

 

[dmac1103]

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Poor ref's, poor decision making and one heck of a goalie leads to a Cards loss. Morrisville is a good team and some speed but they did remind me at times of the first Mighty Ducks movie when Coach Bombay tells them to take falls and act hurt. The refs bit on some of them to, there was no flow to this game. The first goal was a soft goal, the second was a good goal and the third was not Williams fault. MacLeod should cleared the puck when he had the chance (he tried to carry it in traffic) and then never got his leg out of the way for Williams to get against the post puck went off him and in. This was ugly and except for a couple of players I would expect to see some new faces out there next week.

 

[norm1909]

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Morrisville downs Cardinals {Excerpts from the Plattsburgh Press-Republican 11/14/2010}

The Plattsburgh State men's hockey team has had a tough time getting on the board first.
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"We can't be playing from behind," Plattsburgh coach Bob Emery said. "We've played from behind in four of our five games. I thought we were playing well, but once they scored their first goal, our guys started squeezing their sticks too tight."
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"The power play moved the puck tonight better than I can remember," Emery said of his team's play during its eight man-advantages. "Unfortunately, we don't have anything to show for it."
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Plattsburgh outshot Morrisville 34-20, but the Cardinals were not given many rebounds.

"The one thing our players learned, if they hadn't learned it before tonight, is that defense wins games," Emery said. "(The Mustangs) are a good hockey team. They focus on defense and didn't give up a lot of second shots.

"I said early in the week we had to be prepared to win this game 1-0, and obviously we weren't."
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We were struggling mentally coming into this game, and two goals we gave up tonight were real bad mental mistakes," Emery said. "We've got to go back to the drawing board, and as coaches, we're going to work even harder.
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"We, as coaches, have to start out with player accountability. If you can't do the job then you shouldn't be playing."
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"I thought a lot of guys played well and a lot of guys played hard. It's a shame that there's no reward."
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Morrisville College Perspective.

 

[nyi19]

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Poor ref's, poor decision making and one heck of a goalie leads to a Cards loss. Morrisville is a good team and some speed but they did remind me at times of the first Mighty Ducks movie when Coach Bombay tells them to take falls and act hurt. The refs bit on some of them to, there was no flow to this game. The first goal was a soft goal, the second was a good goal and the third was not Williams fault. MacLeod should cleared the puck when he had the chance (he tried to carry it in traffic) and then never got his leg out of the way for Williams to get against the post puck went off him and in. This was ugly and except for a couple of players I would expect to see some new faces out there next week.

poor refs? There were 17 calls made and platty had 8 power-play chances. how can you determine if there was bad refereeing with 17 calls? i can't think of one penalty that was severely unwarranted. i also didn't see any hesitation on the refs' parts when making calls. so the whole "the refs bit on some of them" doesn't really mean anything to me. no calls seemed to be made based on any morrisville player's reaction. but i can understand why you would think there should have been 9 morrisville penalties and no plattsburgh penalties...?

 

[dmac1103]

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poor refs? There were 17 calls made and platty had 8 power-play chances. how can you determine if there was bad refereeing with 17 calls? i can't think of one penalty that was severely unwarranted. i also didn't see any hesitation on the refs' parts when making calls. so the whole "the refs bit on some of them" doesn't really mean anything to me. no calls seemed to be made based on any morrisville player's reaction. but i can understand why you would think there should have been 9 morrisville penalties and no plattsburgh penalties...?

I determined that because they had poor calls from both sides that did not allow any flow in the game. No there shouldn't have been 9 Morrisville penalties no Plattsburgh penalties. But last time I checked diving was a penalty and Morrisville did A LOT of that and if you disagree then you didn't see the game.

 

[nyi19]

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I determined that because they had poor calls from both sides that did not allow any flow in the game. No there shouldn't have been 9 Morrisville penalties no Plattsburgh penalties. But last time I checked diving was a penalty and Morrisville did A LOT of that and if you disagree then you didn't see the game.

clearly that was the case look i'm not saying that morrisville did or didn't dive or whatever the case...but you can't say that the refs made bad calls because it took away from the flow of the game...if there's a penalty there's a penalty and with as physical as that game was last night, not calling penalties leads to players getting hurt. agreed, there was no flow to the game. but you can't blame that on the fact that the referees had the make calls. blame it on lazy, sloppy play. and if there was in fact diving, penalties still would be called and there would still be no flow.

 

[norm1909]

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The refereeing was typical Mike St Louis refereeing, poor, but (for a change) indiscriminate - i.e. calling minor, incidental events that did not affect play, blowing the whistle because he lost site of the puck (I doubt there was anything more mischievous, but given the face-off circles used, he couldn’t have seen what actually happened), and ignoring calls such as diving, and a very loose interpretation of the hybrid icing rule. That said, as there was no apparent favoritism, the net effect on the outcome was irrelevant, though as spectators, it was at times frustrating.

 

[Stormy8174]

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The refereeing was typical Mike St Louis refereeing, poor, but (for a change) indiscriminate - i.e. calling minor, incidental events that did not affect play, blowing the whistle because he lost site of the puck (I doubt there was anything more mischievous, but given the face-off circles used, he couldn’t have seen what actually happened), and ignoring calls such as diving, and a very loose interpretation of the hybrid icing rule. That said, as there was no apparent favoritism, the net effect on the outcome was irrelevant, though as spectators, it was at times frustrating.

How did St. Louis even get to ref that game? Unless I was just being overly naive...several years ago I thought someone had said he was "not allowed" to ref in Plattsburgh anymore. Could have just been my "student attitude" regarding Baldwin and Petrus and Wisnowski etc. from Oswego games about 4-5 years ago.

 

[Henry]

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Ah blame the ref. The last bastion of scoundrels.

 

[bakdraft21]

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poor refs? There were 17 calls made and platty had 8 power-play chances. how can you determine if there was bad refereeing with 17 calls? i can't think of one penalty that was severely unwarranted. i also didn't see any hesitation on the refs' parts when making calls. so the whole "the refs bit on some of them" doesn't really mean anything to me. no calls seemed to be made based on any morrisville player's reaction. but i can understand why you would think there should have been 9 morrisville penalties and no plattsburgh penalties...?

as far as the diving??? dont know I didnt see the game, the refs will catch up with Mville sooner or later, they will get a rep for diving and it come back to bit them in the arse....

 

[dmac1103]

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clearly that was the case look i'm not saying that morrisville did or didn't dive or whatever the case...but you can't say that the refs made bad calls because it took away from the flow of the game...if there's a penalty there's a penalty and with as physical as that game was last night, not calling penalties leads to players getting hurt. agreed, there was no flow to the game. but you can't blame that on the fact that the referees had the make calls. blame it on lazy, sloppy play. and if there was in fact diving, penalties still would be called and there would still be no flow.

I apologize I misspoke twice I meant you didn't see the same game and the refs were part of the problem with no flow to the game. The coach's, players and ref's control the flow of the game. The coach's did their best to get the flow going (but I can't say for sure if Morrisville's coach was happy with their diving or upset they were doing it), Plattsburgh players were sloppy with their breakout missing passes and just not skating well, Morrisville players had a flow going when they were not flopping on the ice like somebody just shot them. The ref's never to control of the game with the diving, they did take control with the rough play in the beginning handing out a game misconduct in the beginning, but in my personal opinion if they had made some diving calls then the players would have not "acted" like they did throughout the game which could have lead to a little more flow possibly from both teams. When you get frustrated like what Emery said in the paper "you grip the stick a little tighter" which could have lead to the sloppy play,who knows. But one bad call does stand out to me the tripping call on Grace which lead to the PP game wining goal. When a player slides and get's the puck before making contact with the opposing player then it is not a trip, Grace from my point of view ( I was on the other side of the ice) he got the puck first before sliding into the path of the Morrisville player and there should have been no call there.

 

[dmac1103]

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Ah blame the ref. The last bastion of scoundrels.

Who is blaming the refs, I blamed sloppy play by Plattsburgh, a Hot goaltender for Morrisville and poor ref's decisions on the style of the game and the Platty loss.

 

[joecct]

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From a Red Sox fan....
1st place only counts on the last day of the season.
NCAA bids are decided after the final horn of the playoffs.

You just have to be in the top 6, then it is a new season.