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Penn State scandal and its effect on the rising hockey program

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uaafanblog said:
You argue using the rationale that because something is the way it is then it is best to continue. That's a logical fallacy. The BCS is already outside of the NCAA. The NCAA makes 90% of it's revenue on March Madness. How many teams are in the NCAA BBall Tourney? Isn't it 58? So if and when Big 10 schools leave the NCAA (and yes i'm crossing my fingers for it to happen) the NCAA BBall Tourney takes a bit of a hit but will continue strongly. Big 10 schools cannot exercise the same hegemony in bball that they do in Football and to an arguably larger extent Hockey; there are simply too many basketball schools for them to control everything (even with Indiana).
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There is 68 I believe. And if the Big Ten left the rest would follow. It is true of any of the major conferences. If the Pac-12 tomorrow said they were leaving the NCAA the rest would go. They are all just waiting for an excuse. Football rules the day and when a conference leaves in one, they will leave in all. (the NCAA would make them even if they wanted to stay) Feel free to ignore the facts though because it makes you feel better. BTW just because the NCAA does not sanction the BCS title does not mean the BCS left. See, the schools in the BCS still have to follow NCAA guidelines...ya know why? BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE NCAA!! Leaving the NCAA would eliminate those rules, and believe me they want those rules gone.

It isnt about the superiority of the Big Ten, it is about how the Haves dont want to deal with the Have Nots if they dont have to anymore. It is across the board too, that is why the superconferences are forming. Maximize profit with minimal risk.

As to me being a "Pretentious twat" you can think what you like. Your "qualified" opinions are bunk. You are so off base you are not even worth reading. Oh and I can post however much I choose and if you dont like it, block me. Me and my pretentious twat are not going anywhere so you can eat it :D
 
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uaafanblog said:
You don't know what a "qualified" statement or opinion is in the context used. Do you?

LOL
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Yes I do...and yours are worthless. Just keep on keeping on buddy I am sure someone pretends to care what you think :D

edit: Dont respond, you have been blocked :)
 
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McQueary denies turning & running.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/college-sp...tant-mcqueary-i-didnt-just-turn-an-ar-324807/

Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary "didn't just turn and run" after witnessing Jerry Sandusky allegedly sodomize a boy and "made sure it stopped," according to an email McQueary sent to friends and former teammates.

The email, reported by NBC News, would clarify McQueary's actions from the incident in 2002, when he was a graduate assistant on Joe Paterno's staff.

A grand jury report said McQueary witnessed seeing Sandusky, the team's former defensive coordinator, sexually assaulting the boy in a shower on campus, then reported it only to his father and head coach Joe Paterno. According to the report, McQueary did not notify law enforcement or do anything to halt the attack.

Public outrage followed McQueary's implied inaction, and he was placed on paid administrative leave Friday after receiving threats. The school did not provide details on who threatened McQueary.

His email would explain his involvement in what he allegedly witnessed.

"I did the right thing … you guys know me … the truth is not out there fully … I didn't just turn and run … I made sure it stopped … I had to make quick tough decisions," McQueary wrote, according to NBC News.

McQueary, Penn State's receivers coach, testified in the grand jury investigation that led Sandusky's arrest Saturday.

Sandusky, who retired in 1999 but maintained emeritus status and access to facilities, was charged with molesting eight boys over a 15-year period. On Monday, he told NBC News that he was not guilty of the charges, but said he did shower with boys and took part in "horse play."

The ensuing scandal brought down university President Graham Spanier and Paterno, who was fired by trustees amid growing criticism that he should have done more to stop the alleged abuse.

McQueary has endured similar scrutiny. Asked if McQueary was placed on leave for his conduct or to ensure his safety, new university President Rod Erickson said it was "a complicated situation."

McQueary faces no criminal charges but has hired an attorney. He has made no public comments on the case.

Athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz have each been charged with perjury and failing to report an incident of abuse to authorities after McQueary relayed what he had seen. Curley has taken administrative leave, while Schultz -- who was already working on an interim capacity -- has returned to retirement.

Paterno has not been implicated, and prosecutors have said he is not a target of the investigation. Curley and Schultz, through their attorneys, have denied wrongdoing.

The campus leaders faced mounting public criticism for failing to call police and prevent further suspected cases.

Described in court papers as distraught about witnessing the 2002 attack, unrelated local newspaper accounts from the time indicate McQueary appeared in the months and years that followed in charity events that Sandusky also took part in, or were to benefit The Second Mile, the charity started by Sandusky through which he allegedly met victims.
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Just a few short days with this topic, whew! can you imagine the jurors... This mess is nothing yet...
 
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a few days ago I laughed at the thought of Penn State folding football or other sports or the hockey program.

I'm not laughing now.
 
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I'm still laughing, but it's a very nervous and awkward laugh... :-/
 
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the scandal reaches as high as the Governors office. NCAA sanctions? FBI investigations? Department of Education? Big Ten problems? civil suits? costs? ticket sales go down? enrollment goes down? how about that logo wear? (who would send a kid there for god's sake) recruits backing out. this is an absolute mess. it will take years to shake out. if I had just donated $$$$ for the hockey program, I'd sure be rethinking that. hell, if I had donated $5 to Penn State, I'd be rethinking THAT!!
 
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Pegula donated $80+ million to build a new rink, he's one of their biggest donors. He's reaffirmed his commitment to his donation. I sincerely doubt any of this will result in Penn State not playing hockey in the Big Ten in 2013. Will it effect their athletic programs? Certainly. Recruiting? Certainly. But let's face the facts. Penn State wasn't going to light the college hockey world on fire (at least right away) anyways.

My guess is that this will have a FAR greater impact on Penn State football and basketball. There are far fewer D1 college hockey programs, and thus far less opportunities for kids to play D1 hockey. They will get recruits. Probably won't get as many highly touted recruits as other programs, but they probably weren't getting those (at least right away) anyways.

Tobe honest, I think Penn State's other programs are going to feel the effects of this situation far more than their hockey program, and will probably struggle (at least by their standards) for a while because of it. Therefore, the new hockey program might actually be the distraction that school needs right about now.
 
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huskyfan said:
the scandal reaches as high as the Governors office. NCAA sanctions? FBI investigations? Department of Education? Big Ten problems? civil suits? costs? ticket sales go down? enrollment goes down? how about that logo wear? (who would send a kid there for god's sake) recruits backing out. this is an absolute mess. it will take years to shake out. if I had just donated $$$$ for the hockey program, I'd sure be rethinking that. hell, if I had donated $5 to Penn State, I'd be rethinking THAT!!
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so, if some sick bastard was associated with your school, you would tar and feather and blame the other 20,000 normal people?
 
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Pegula has reaffirmed his commitment? actually this could help PSUs hockey program, what with the spotlight off football.
 
huskyfan said:
Pegula has reaffirmed his commitment? actually this could help PSUs hockey program, what with the spotlight off football.
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Yes, he did.

<A HREF="http://www.themackreport.com/2011/11/pegula-reaffirms-donation-to-penn-state.html">http://www.themackreport.com/2011/11/pegula-reaffirms-donation-to-penn-state.html</A>
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
Yes, he did.

<A HREF="http://www.themackreport.com/2011/11/pegula-reaffirms-donation-to-penn-state.html">http://www.themackreport.com/2011/11/pegula-reaffirms-donation-to-penn-state.html</A>
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well, good. the hockey program shouldn't suffer for the football programs sins.
 
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huskyfan said:
well, good. the hockey program shouldn't suffer for the football programs sins.
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Unless of course this was willfully covered up by the athletic department. Then the banhammer should be dropped. You simply cannot allow an institution to commit these crimes.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Unless of course this was willfully covered up by the athletic department. Then the banhammer should be dropped. You simply cannot allow an institution to commit these crimes.
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agreed. but surely the hockey program ... it wasn't even started when this thing went on ... well, club hockey ... but that ... oh was that under the athletic department? uh oh.
 
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