Oswego vs Plattsburgh "The Whiteout game"

[Russell Jaslow]

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We're supposed to get 3-5 inches today, 2-4 tonight, 4-6 tomorrow, tomorrow night just flurries, and then just cloudy Saturday. So, anyone coming for the Potsdam game, drive safe. Roads should be decent for the Plattsburgh game.

And the temperature for the walk from and to the parking lot or the dorms will be 11 degrees. And that's without the wonderful "breeze" from Lake Ontario.

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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Sorry to miss the fun this morning - y'all been busy...

For the record - and for the last time (hold your applause til the end) - I fully and enthusiastically support A LOUD, DEAFENING, WILDLY SUPPORTIVE STUDENT SECTION THAT MAKES THE EFFORT OUT ON THE ICE LOOK LIKE CURLING....just be creative and respectful of the audience around you...

Done. Finished. Over.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Sorry to miss the fun this morning - y'all been busy...

For the record - and for the last time (hold your applause til the end) - I fully and enthusiastically support A LOUD, DEAFENING, WILDLY SUPPORTIVE STUDENT SECTION THAT MAKES THE EFFORT OUT ON THE ICE LOOK LIKE CURLING....just be creative and respectful of the audience around you...

Done. Finished. Over.

Fair enough.

Just realize if you sit near the student section you're going to hear a few obscenities...it's just going to happen.

 

[Laker Ranger]

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Wow Rob, that was rather out of place for a Shaivo reference. . .

"When we played Adrian, I yelled "I know it might be wrong but I'm in love with Casey's mom" (In reference to goalie Casey Tuttle and the notrorious Fountains of Wayne song) and it was pry the most enjoyable thing yelled all game.

Bigger buzzkill than Buzz Killington, my friend.

Sure, the world could always use a little less swearing. It's inevitable at a hockey game though (at some point or another), and dictating one's personal opinions into demands on a multitude of others is something I don't agree with or condone.

Yeah Prez, better dead than red - guess thats why I'm in the -650000 point range now and stuck with it. If anything, it looks like a burnt orange/red or brown though, and not really a "red"...*looks closer*. Yeah, not really a red.

 

[spwood]

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Forgive Steve.

His statements usually express the opinion that of the esteemed Plattsburgh State University and their employees.

And your statements usually express an inability to act your age and accept that there are viewpoints other than your own out there.

There - now we've called each other names. Has anything been accomplished? Other than you avoiding realistically addressing an opposing viewpoint?

I'll make one last attempt to have an intelligent conversation here:

You'd be surprised to learn that I don't have problems with much that goes on in a student section. I went to college and was part of it all. However, and maybe you'll learn this over the next 10 years if you get married and have a family, there is another viewpoint and another group of stakeholders in your precious [insert name of favorite team here]. How much do students pay for tickets to Oswego hockey games? How much do families and other non-students pay for tickets to the hockey games? Both groups are extremely important to the college and the sports amtosphere, but which one is the administration that pays for the cross country team (and every other team that doesn't bring revenue into the department) concerned with losing?

 

[ColdInRomney]

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And the temperature for the walk from and to the parking lot or the dorms will be 11 degrees. And that's without the wonderful "breeze" from Lake Ontario.

It is indeed a classic "whiteout" here at the moment- can't see across the street. Not to worry, should let up within the hour, just one of those lake effect (excuse me- "enhanced") bands drifting down towards Syracuse.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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And your statements usually express an inability to act your age and accept that there are viewpoints other than your own out there.

There - now we've called each other names. Has anything been accomplished? Other than you avoiding realistically addressing an opposing viewpoint?

I'll make one last attempt to have an intelligent conversation here:

You'd be surprised to learn that I don't have problems with much that goes on in a student section. I went to college and was part of it all. However, and maybe you'll learn this over the next 10 years if you get married and have a family, there is another viewpoint and another group of stakeholders in your precious [insert name of favorite team here]. How much do students pay for tickets to Oswego hockey games? How much do families and other non-students pay for tickets to the hockey games? Both groups are extremely important to the college and the sports amtosphere, but which one is the administration that pays for the cross country team (and every other team that doesn't bring revenue into the department) concerned with losing?

Fair enough.

I paid over $60,000 to Oswego in my four years there and I'm now working at a job in my field for $11.50 an hour. I think that earned me the right to be able to have a little fun at hockey games. Honestly, I rarely swear at hockey games. The only swearing I really ever did was in the see ya chant and the occasional arsehole chant.

I'm not one that needs to throw out every curse word in the book to be able to make my point.

I'm more concerned about the crack down of noisemakers, flags, no standing, etc that has happened in the Campus Center. I guess I've gotten a little bit off topic from that original stand point.

I think the people that come to hockey games and just say F U to every player on the other team and don't even know what is happening in the game are an embarrasment and certainly don't support that.

My biggest problem with Oswego was the change over that they tried to put in place once the team moved from the Campus Center to Romney. Why should the big wigs that actually come to games now at the cozy CC be able to dictate and tell true fans that braved the cold in Romney they can't have some innocent fun?

Edit: as Nate said...I also paid an athletic fee and I believe that was $100-$150?

If that's what it was...that pays for my season tickets to a Laker game just every other season ticket holder out there.

Double Edit: My dad actually punished me when I was 12ish and didn't let me go to a game against Manhattanville because I heard someone swear at the Domes and repeated it after them. So it's not lost on me Steve. I can see the other side. I think that people that come to college hockey games where half of the crowd is students need to realize that the possibility of something like that happening is high.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

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And your statements usually express an inability to act your age and accept that there are viewpoints other than your own out there.

There - now we've called each other names. Has anything been accomplished? Other than you avoiding realistically addressing an opposing viewpoint?

I'll make one last attempt to have an intelligent conversation here:

You'd be surprised to learn that I don't have problems with much that goes on in a student section. I went to college and was part of it all. However, and maybe you'll learn this over the next 10 years if you get married and have a family, there is another viewpoint and another group of stakeholders in your precious [insert name of favorite team here]. How much do students pay for tickets to Oswego hockey games? How much do families and other non-students pay for tickets to the hockey games? Both groups are extremely important to the college and the sports amtosphere, but which one is the administration that pays for the cross country team (and every other team that doesn't bring revenue into the department) concerned with losing?

Totally agree with your statement as a whole, but there is a legitimate response to the part that I've bolded. Students DO pay for their tickets. Most colleges that provide student "comp" tickets or other free services make all students pay a student activities fee, which I know is nowhere the cost of attending every home game, but a fraction of the student body (albeit a significant fraction at schools like Oswego) actually use the ability to go to EVERY hockey game. So, those who go to every game are simply gettin a reduced-price season ticket subsidized by thousands of other

Thank God Siena didn't make me pay such a thing to subsidize someone's obsession with that game that involves a lot of squeaky shoes. But I still had to pay for the Big screen TV that somebody won in the Student Activites Board Bingo game, that they then proceeded to break in a drunken stupor

 

[Laker Ranger]

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And your statements usually express an inability to act your age and accept that there are viewpoints other than your own out there.

There - now we've called each other names. Has anything been accomplished? Other than you avoiding realistically addressing an opposing viewpoint?

I'll make one last attempt to have an intelligent conversation here:

You'd be surprised to learn that I don't have problems with much that goes on in a student section. I went to college and was part of it all. However, and maybe you'll learn this over the next 10 years if you get married and have a family, there is another viewpoint and another group of stakeholders in your precious [insert name of favorite team here]. How much do students pay for tickets to Oswego hockey games? How much do families and other non-students pay for tickets to the hockey games? Both groups are extremely important to the college and the sports amtosphere, but which one is the administration that pays for the cross country team (and every other team that doesn't bring revenue into the department) concerned with losing?

I think it's fair to say we're at a stalemate between parties then sir. The only thing I could point out is that students pay for their tickets too - its included in the tuition charges or what-have-you charges for em. We just don't have to pay at the counter or mail it in over games. Regardless, call a truce?

I don't think anything will come of this email (after speaking my piece already). The admin has really no means of enforcing restrictions on the student section, but the student section is always capable of restraining itself beyond becoming a hoard of hooligans, which it never really has become in the CC even during the P-Burgh game.

It's moot. The game is 2 days away now, and any party should just look forward to the game itself, and stop squabbling about something that has (and will have) no impact except sparking fruitless bickering. The rivalry continues just as it did last year, and no worries.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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How much do students pay for tickets to Oswego hockey games? How much do families and other non-students pay for tickets to the hockey games? Both groups are extremely important to the college and the sports amtosphere, but which one is the administration that pays for the cross country team (and every other team that doesn't bring revenue into the department) concerned with losing?

Student activity fees pays for all sports at SUNY schools (and many other colleges around the country) which is why students get in for free.

The amount schools get from the paying audience is miniscule in the total athletic budget.

The schools should be concerned about losing students, not fans at hockey games.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Last thing:

Depending on the size of your cross country team, the sport is one of the least costliest at the school. They only travel about six to eight times a season, if that. Meaning they only need to rent a bus a few times. Sometimes we just take school vans instead of the big coach busses anyways.

We have NO equipment and the only thing the school provides is $30 towards a pair of training shoes or spikes.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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Makes total sense to have a different video for the house than for air - different displays, viewing environments, objectives....don't confuse making television shows with arena display programming - they are two different animals that demand different visuals, timing and sound.....I have been in both businesses and they don't mix well....good luck with the cut, I will be at the Ice Palace early to make a pest of myself.....

Has anyone checked out Todd Milewski's recent blog entry about the Alaska-Anchorage video board intro before games? Good heavens! Talk about bizarre and perhaps bad taste!

 

[jconnor]

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Why can't you "Wego" and "Platty" fans just get along like us EC and RIT fans used to.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Has anyone checked out Todd Milewski's recent blog entry about the Alaska-Anchorage video board intro before games? Good heavens! Talk about bizarre and perhaps bad taste!

It may be taking it a BIT too far but still that was AWESOME! I wish Oswego had something along those lines. Great music too.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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Why can't you "Wego" and "Platty" fans just get along like us EC and RIT fans used to.

I heard you are inline to negotiate Middle East peace.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Why can't you "Wego" and "Platty" fans just get along like us EC and RIT fans used to.

Heck...those used to be the three biggest games of the year (RIT, Plattsburgh, Oswego)

Throw in Mercyhurst and Canisius and were right back to the grand ole days of the ECAC West

I think we can all agree that we hated Niagara.

 

[JMD9]

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Clearly video review would be available at many DIII college venues.

I don't know if anyone has argued this yet, I'm still catching up.

But Oswego has one of the better arenas in DIII hockey yet there is no system set up for video replay. And if you try to say that WTOP's camera's suffice you would be mistaken. Yes our camera operators do a fantastic job, but our equipment is not top of the line, nor is it in the best position(s) to get a good shot at whether a goal went in or not. Also, our camera operators are still college students learning rather than practiced professionals. I would be amazed at any rink that had a full fledged NHL standard replay system installed in a DIII rink.

 

[OSUPBPMike]

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I don't know if anyone has argued this yet, I'm still catching up.

But Oswego has one of the better arenas in DIII hockey yet there is no system set up for video replay. And if you try to say that WTOP's camera's suffice you would be mistaken. Yes our camera operators do a fantastic job, but our equipment is not top of the line, nor is it in the best position(s) to get a good shot at whether a goal went in or not. Also, our camera operators are still college students learning rather than practiced professionals. I would be amazed at any rink that had a full fledged NHL standard replay system installed in a DIII rink.

...not to say the NHL standard replay system is even adequate itself, but that's another story

 

[SB in the 'Seo]

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Anybody have any extra tickets for the game? There was a bit of a mix up with my friend who was getting the tickets (cliff notes: my friend is a student there and just assumed he could ask for three tickets when he walked up on Monday ... that doesn't fly.) So anyway he's asking around to see if he can get any tickets, but I figured I'd throw it out there on the boards as well. So we're technically looking for 2 but even if you only have 1 I'd appreciate it because we may get 1 from another source.

e-mail:

stevenjamesbennett@gmail.com

Thanks much.

 

[Stormy8174]

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It is indeed a classic "whiteout" here at the moment- can't see across the street. Not to worry, should let up within the hour, just one of those lake effect (excuse me- "enhanced") bands drifting down towards Syracuse.

I think the classic whiteout came back in 2007...the whole week leading up to the game and the day of was literally closing roads and counties if I remember correctly (150 or so inches I believe in Redfield...but who was counting by then? )