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Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

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If I'm not mistaken, Carr did not play did he? When is he expected to take the ice? Anybody know where he will fit in?

He did not play.

I'm not sure when he'll finally get to take the ice. Oswego's current six defensemen are playing VERY well and it's going to be a tough lineup to crack.

I'm sure he'll get his chance sooner or later. All depends how much Gosek wants to shake up the lines. Kind of hard to do with a team on a 15 game winning streak:cool:
 
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I didn't think Adrian was slow at all. I thought they were very skilled and was always looking to shoot from any angle any time. I thought they were a little too offensive minded at times and certainly lost their cool at points.

Speaking of which...I was thoroughly impressed with Selleck being able to keep his cool throughout the game. He was certainly barking during the game but never once retaliated or threw a punch/shove like he normally does. Maybe Gosek has finally gotten to Selleck?

How about the job KGT did? I thought he was excellent again. Made some strong saves on excellent scoring opportunities that kept the Lakers ahead.

Two of his best came in the second period when he stoned an Adrian player twice on the doorstep by throwing his right leg out and stuffing the two chances the Adrian player had from right on top of the crease. Kept Adrian off the board for a little while longer until they finally broke through there with Dahlinger during the long period with no stoppages.
 
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Until Wick lost, there wasn't going to be a unanimous #1 for the Wego. Good to see us finally get it, but still a long way to go.
 
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I think a dream scenario for the NCAA would be to put Oswego as the #1 seed and have two play-in games in the East and one in the West while Adrian travels to Elmira for a play-in game. Then the Bulldogs could just go to Oswego right after if they beat Elmira for the quarterfinals.

Having seen Oswego play both Elmira and Adrian in the last two weeks, I'd give Elmira the edge in that dream.
 
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Don't know if this video of the latest installment of the Oswego/Plattsburgh rivalry was posted on here yet. Lots of good stuff from the Laker Lowdown crew. The first 5:35 is about the game last semester. After that there is an interesting bit about a player on the women's hockey team. Enjoy, courtesy of WTOP.
 
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This is something I posted in the Potsdam thread, but in order to make sure the Bears' thread didn't get hijacked, I have posted it here as well so people can respond and it will be relevant:

I will never forget that classic SUNYAC playoff series at Maxcy about 10 years ago. Potsdam and Oswego played well into the wee hours of the morning when the SUNYAC playoffs had the mini-game as the tie breaker. I think there is some rivalry there with Oswego but not as much IMHO as Plattsburgh vs Potsdam.

Maybe from a Potsdam perspective, but I'd have to say that's not the case in the view of the Lakers and their fans. During my four years at Oswego the Bears only got the better of Oswego once - the regular season finale last year. While that loss left a bitter taste in many of the fans' mouths as it was senior night for the core of our Championship team, I know that few of the players really cared much at all about that game. It was more about enjoying Senior Night than getting a win. Plus the team knew they needed to win the SUNYAC to get to the NCAAs at that point.

Most of Oswego's wins over the last four or five years have been blowouts too. IMHO, I would say that of all the SUNYAC teams, there is the least amount of rivalry with Potsdam. There just seems to be more recent history between every other team and therefore more cause for a rivalry right now.

Here's how I rank the biggest SUNYAC rivals:

1. Plattsburgh - Duh.
2. Geneseo - There have been quite a few knock down drag out fights between these two in recent memory, despite Geneseo's recent slip from the top of the SUNYAC standings 2 of the last 3 years (current season included so that could change)
3. Fredonia - 2007 SUNYAC semi-finals is all that needs to be said, but they never go down quietly either.
4. Buff State It was tough for me to put Buff. State this high as they've never beaten the Lakers, but a lot of it has to do with Coach Carriere. And the fact that 4 of the last 5 between these two have gone to OT... Wait... In all seriousness, the Lakers haven't beaten the Bengals by more than 3 goals since Fall of '05.
5. Brockport - The only reason I put Brockport this low is because for every game they played the Lakers close the last 4.5 years, they got crushed in the other. It's hard for me to put them below Buff. St, but it would be a lot easier if it weren't for that little scuffle after the game ended in Fall of '07.
6. Morrisville - This one may come out of left field, but last year's tie against the Mustangs still has to have the Lakers not taking this team too lightly. They also only beat them 3-1 the second semester. Combine that with their improvement this year and the Lakers can't treat them like a junior college team anymore.
7. Cortland - Honestly, the only reason why they aren't last is because of the 06-07 season. The Red Dragons (miraculously) tied the Lakers to give them their first non-win of the season and several fights were started by Cortland goalie Ben Binga in the rubber match. Perhaps the whole travel partner thing gives this matchup enough 'fluff' to keep them out of the cellar.
8. Potsdam - Yes they seem to be a team on the upswing, however, other than Potsdam's win in the regular season finale last year, only 2 games over the last 4.5 seasons have been decided by fewer than 4 goals.

So that's my take as a Laker fan who started following the team in the 05-06 season.

I don't want this to result in a thread hijacking, so I'm going to post this in the Oswego thread too. Any responses can be made there so we give the Bears their due.

What do other Laker fans think?
 
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Here's how I rank the biggest SUNYAC rivals:

1. Plattsburgh - Duh.
2. Geneseo - There have been quite a few knock down drag out fights between these two in recent memory, despite Geneseo's recent slip from the top of the SUNYAC standings 2 of the last 3 years (current season included so that could change)
3. Fredonia - 2007 SUNYAC semi-finals is all that needs to be said, but they never go down quietly either.
4. Buff State It was tough for me to put Buff. State this high as they've never beaten the Lakers, but a lot of it has to do with Coach Carriere. And the fact that 4 of the last 5 between these two have gone to OT... Wait... In all seriousness, the Lakers haven't beaten the Bengals by more than 3 goals since Fall of '05.
5. Brockport - The only reason I put Brockport this low is because for every game they played the Lakers close the last 4.5 years, they got crushed in the other. It's hard for me to put them below Buff. St, but it would be a lot easier if it weren't for that little scuffle after the game ended in Fall of '07.
6. Morrisville - This one may come out of left field, but last year's tie against the Mustangs still has to have the Lakers not taking this team too lightly. They also only beat them 3-1 the second semester. Combine that with their improvement this year and the Lakers can't treat them like a junior college team anymore.
7. Cortland - Honestly, the only reason why they aren't last is because of the 06-07 season. The Red Dragons (miraculously) tied the Lakers to give them their first non-win of the season and several fights were started by Cortland goalie Ben Binga in the rubber match. Perhaps the whole travel partner thing gives this matchup enough 'fluff' to keep them out of the cellar.
8. Potsdam - Yes they seem to be a team on the upswing, however, other than Potsdam's win in the regular season finale last year, only 2 games over the last 4.5 seasons have been decided by fewer than 4 goals.

So that's my take as a Laker fan who started following the team in the 05-06 season.

I don't want this to result in a thread hijacking, so I'm going to post this in the Oswego thread too. Any responses can be made there so we give the Bears their due.

What do other Laker fans think?




Platty
Genny
Fredonia

The ranking only needs to go three spots
 
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Platty
Genny
Fredonia

The ranking only needs to go three spots

I agree with you Ozz, although Andrew your rankings are very good. The ranking system however doesn't need to go past Fredonia. The rivalry with Geneseo has lost some of its luster as of late and I would actually put Fredonia a step ahead of them. The others on the list have not beaten us too often over the last 10 years to even be called a rival.

I don't know if it has been said before, but I do think that we have gained two rivals over the last couple years out of conference. The first being the Soaring Eagles, who since 2007 have played the Lakers tightly (with the exception of the 3rd period of the home opener this year) in every game. There is a lot of bad blood between the two teams as well especially during last years games. If you can remember some of the dirty hits and play including Velich's incident with McLaughlin (the infamous butt of the stick to the face).

The second I think is a another obvious one to all of you and this is Utica. The Pioneers stopped the Lakers unbeaten season at "The Aud" back in 2007 and have come close plenty of times in beating the Lakers at home and on their ice. The Lakers were even given a scare this season at "The Aud". The proximity of the school gives that extra flavor to the rivalry (in regards to recruiting even).

The last out of conference rival that I see out there is one that was created this past Friday. Adrian played very well and physical with the Lakers creating a lot of chippiness that you would see in a Platty game. The Bulldogs went toe to toe for much of the game with Lakers until the ref's let things get out of hand during the third. Adrian has the talent to match Oswego and create many more fantastic games like the first two periods of last weekend's game only if given the chance. Sadly I don't know if Tim Hale will look past the poor sportsmanship exhibited at the end of the game to allow another game to happen.
 
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Sadly I don't know if Tim Hale will look past the poor sportsmanship exhibited at the end of the game to allow another game to happen.

I can't wait until the Alumni association starts calling me. I plan on telling them I will not donate a cent to that school until Tim Hale is no longer the Athletic Director and the Lakers finally have a mascot.
 
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Sadly I don't know if Tim Hale will look past the poor sportsmanship exhibited at the end of the game to allow another game to happen.

According sources, although there obviously won't be an official announcement until next January, that Gosek invited the Bulldogs to the Pathfinder for 2011-2012, and Fogarty accepted. Again, just hearsay, but it looks good.
 
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The last out of conference rival that I see out there is one that was created this past Friday. Adrian played very well and physical with the Lakers creating a lot of chippiness that you would see in a Platty game. The Bulldogs went toe to toe for much of the game with Lakers until the ref's let things get out of hand during the third. Adrian has the talent to match Oswego and create many more fantastic games like the first two periods of last weekend's game only if given the chance. Sadly I don't know if Tim Hale will look past the poor sportsmanship exhibited at the end of the game to allow another game to happen.

I wouldn't say one game against a team can constitute a rivalry. It will be especially hard for a rivalry to develop between an Eastern and Western team. Now they will be back for the Pathfinder in two years and they may meet in the NCAAs so you never know..
 
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He [Carr] did not play.

I'm not sure when he'll finally get to take the ice. Oswego's current six defensemen are playing VERY well and it's going to be a tough lineup to crack.

I'm sure he'll get his chance sooner or later. All depends how much Gosek wants to shake up the lines. Kind of hard to do with a team on a 15 game winning streak:cool:

He's not eligible to play until classes start.
 
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I agree with you Ozz, although Andrew your rankings are very good. The ranking system however doesn't need to go past Fredonia. The rivalry with Geneseo has lost some of its luster as of late and I would actually put Fredonia a step ahead of them. The others on the list have not beaten us too often over the last 10 years to even be called a rival.

I don't know if it has been said before, but I do think that we have gained two rivals over the last couple years out of conference. The first being the Soaring Eagles, who since 2007 have played the Lakers tightly (with the exception of the 3rd period of the home opener this year) in every game. There is a lot of bad blood between the two teams as well especially during last years games. If you can remember some of the dirty hits and play including Velich's incident with McLaughlin (the infamous butt of the stick to the face).

The second I think is a another obvious one to all of you and this is Utica. The Pioneers stopped the Lakers unbeaten season at "The Aud" back in 2007 and have come close plenty of times in beating the Lakers at home and on their ice. The Lakers were even given a scare this season at "The Aud". The proximity of the school gives that extra flavor to the rivalry (in regards to recruiting even).

The last out of conference rival that I see out there is one that was created this past Friday. Adrian played very well and physical with the Lakers creating a lot of chippiness that you would see in a Platty game. The Bulldogs went toe to toe for much of the game with Lakers until the ref's let things get out of hand during the third. Adrian has the talent to match Oswego and create many more fantastic games like the first two periods of last weekend's game only if given the chance. Sadly I don't know if Tim Hale will look past the poor sportsmanship exhibited at the end of the game to allow another game to happen.

Couple of things.

You can't develop a rivalry with a team after one game. Sure the Adrian/Oswego game was heated but so was the LVC game two years ago at the Campus Center and I wouldnt called LVC a rival. Plus the regional difficulties and the fact these two teams will sparsely play more than likely over the course of the next few years (unless they meet in the NCAA's) will make it hard to develop any sort of rivalry.

Second, Tim Hale doesn't make the decisions on the Lakers schedule. That's Gosek's call and he's allowed to schedule whoever he wants as long as it meets the budget etc. Adrian was no different than any other team that has come into Oswego before and gotten into heated altercations with the Lakers.

Third, I agree about Utica. It's developed a bit of rivalry due to Utica ending the Lakers' bid for the undefeated season as well as Steve Levy being an absolute d-bag on the PA to Utica while they stood out on the ice for 45 minutes watching the stupid Campus Center opening ceremony.
I'm glad both teams were able to get each other back on the schedule this year for a home and home and hopefully it continues in the coming years.

Fourth, The Elmira/Oswego rivalry dates farther back than just a few years ago. They have had a heated rivalry for nearly two decades. There was the Times-Argus incident in 2002 or 2003 where an Oswego player checked an Elmira player IIRC into an open bench door causing the EC player to miss the rest of the game and a few games after I believe. The also played each other back in the days of the old New York College Hockey Conference before the ECAC West and SUNYAC were established.

The SUNYAC rankings...I would agree that it doesnt really matter after the top three.

Buffalo State is a good pick for fourth due to all the player transfers between schools, but I can't see justifying anyone over Potsdam for 5th.

Potsdam and Oswego have engaged in some good battles over the years even with lopsides scores. Don't forget the game in 2006 on Romney Farewell weekend where Potsdam players were shooting pucks into the stands, celebrating in front of the student section, flipping the bird to the crowd, and doing jerking off motions throughout the game.

Also don't forget about Potsdam goalie Rob Barnhardt decking Tony DiNunzio in a game up in Potsdam in 2007 and getting tossed from the game.

Potsdam and Oswego have had their scrums and I'd say it definitely has its intense moments. (Vince Tarantino being friends with a lot of the Oswego players). I'd put it at about a tie for fourth, maybe slightly below Buffalo State, but definitely no worse than fifth if there were a SUNYAC rival rankings.
 
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He's not eligible to play until classes start.

Really?

This is surprising to me because Oswego's transfers in the past have been eligible before classes started. Tim Potter played immediately after enrolling last year.

Are the rules different now?
 
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Here's how I rank the biggest SUNYAC rivals:

1. Plattsburgh - Duh.
2. Geneseo - There have been quite a few knock down drag out fights between these two in recent memory, despite Geneseo's recent slip from the top of the SUNYAC standings 2 of the last 3 years (current season included so that could change)
3. Fredonia - 2007 SUNYAC semi-finals is all that needs to be said, but they never go down quietly either.
4. Buff State It was tough for me to put Buff. State this high as they've never beaten the Lakers, but a lot of it has to do with Coach Carriere. And the fact that 4 of the last 5 between these two have gone to OT... Wait... In all seriousness, the Lakers haven't beaten the Bengals by more than 3 goals since Fall of '05.
5. Brockport - The only reason I put Brockport this low is because for every game they played the Lakers close the last 4.5 years, they got crushed in the other. It's hard for me to put them below Buff. St, but it would be a lot easier if it weren't for that little scuffle after the game ended in Fall of '07.
6. Morrisville - This one may come out of left field, but last year's tie against the Mustangs still has to have the Lakers not taking this team too lightly. They also only beat them 3-1 the second semester. Combine that with their improvement this year and the Lakers can't treat them like a junior college team anymore.
7. Cortland - Honestly, the only reason why they aren't last is because of the 06-07 season. The Red Dragons (miraculously) tied the Lakers to give them their first non-win of the season and several fights were started by Cortland goalie Ben Binga in the rubber match. Perhaps the whole travel partner thing gives this matchup enough 'fluff' to keep them out of the cellar.
8. Potsdam - Yes they seem to be a team on the upswing, however, other than Potsdam's win in the regular season finale last year, only 2 games over the last 4.5 seasons have been decided by fewer than 4 goals.

So that's my take as a Laker fan who started following the team in the 05-06 season.

I don't want this to result in a thread hijacking, so I'm going to post this in the Oswego thread too. Any responses can be made there so we give the Bears their due.

What do other Laker fans think?

For someone who has seen Oswego hockey since the mid 90's (boy I feel old all of a sudden) it ranks:

Platty--nothing needs to be said
Geneseo--always have trouble up in Geneseo and they have come to Oswego many a time and won and also have knocked us out of the playoffs as well.
Fredonia--Fredonia as well has beaten us in the playoffs and I have seen many a fierce battle

As for what you all say about Potsdam. No matter how bad they have been, they have always been a rival. They were good when I started school and we had some great battles with them through the 90's into the early 2000's.

Cortland is def a small rival just b/c of being travel partners. Brockport and Buff State not too much even though both have gotten a little better at times. Brockport has played some tough games against us but sparingly. I don't know much about Morrisville.

Elmira as well has always been a big rival. We have always had great battles with them and Utica I can't speak too much of.
 
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Really?

This is surprising to me because Oswego's transfers in the past have been eligible before classes started. Tim Potter played immediately after enrolling last year.

Are the rules different now?

Did Potter play immediately? I remember the NCAA changing this rule a couple of years ago, because it affected somebody in the ECAC East right after they changed it (I don't remember the details). Of course, there's always the chance that I am all wet, too. I thought this was another part of the DIII "reform" package.
 
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Did Potter play immediately? I remember the NCAA changing this rule a couple of years ago, because it affected somebody in the ECAC East right after they changed it (I don't remember the details). Of course, there's always the chance that I am all wet, too. I thought this was another part of the DIII "reform" package.

Potter played his first game in the Pathfinder last year against Skidmore, well before classes started..

I remember him giving up 2 goals in the first ten minutes of the game, wondering if he really was a DI player...
 
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Potter played his first game in the Pathfinder last year against Skidmore, well before classes started..

I remember him giving up 2 goals in the first ten minutes of the game, wondering if he really was a DI player...

Barely. I think he played two games with Clarkson and got beat out by a frosh last year once Leggio graduated and then he transfered.

He however is the Northeast's premier Midol salesman:cool:
 
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