Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

[nysportsfan29]

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Do we think Carr will play friday?

I think Carr will play friday just so they can see what he's got. I mean he's a big boy at 6 foot 180 lbs. He should fit right in.

Not so sure Solomon. The team is on a roll right now and it looks like the defense is really gelling. The same 6 defensemen played in both games last weekend. Only 2 goals given up on the weekend and Van Boxmeer wasn't even in. If Gosek didn't put him in already, I don't see why he would now especially in one of the biggest games of the season.

Also, just to note how nasty they are - Selleck, Fox, and Laganiere are not only the top scorers in the SUNYAC (both in league play and overall) but are the top 3 scorers in the country. Just wow.

 

[Laker Ranger]

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Wow...it's been pretty quiet in here for the last day or so. Guess everyone's been commenting elsewhere.

So now for the Q of the day: how many Bulldogs can you fit in a penalty box without throwing a substantial number out of the game?

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Wow...it's been pretty quiet in here for the last day or so. Guess everyone's been commenting elsewhere.

So now for the Q of the day: how many Bulldogs can you fit in a penalty box without throwing a substantial number out of the game?

About as many refs as it does to screw up a good hockey game.

Adrian lost its cool. No denying that but they didnt catch a break all night from the refs.

The Skelly 5 minute boarding call was questionable.

The penalty I was the most disappointed in was when Adrian got penalized after Selleck took a swipe at Fogal after the whistle was blown and then an Adrian player came in to protect the goalie and he got whistled for the call.

It was a very tighly officiated game and it was a shame the refs didn't let the teams settle it on the ice.

Oswego was able to adjust their game better to the tight officiating and Adrian kept losing their cool and that was the difference in the game.

Think about this though. Adrian had just about every break go against them last night including losing maybe their best pure scorer in Skelly, a boneheaded play by Fogal that resulted in the gift wrapped third Oswego goal, killed off two 5x3's and they were still down just 3-2 with 2 minutes to go in the game against the #1 team in the nation on Oswego's home ice.

Not too shabby at all.

I would have loved to see the two teams play again today and see what happened.

I still say Adrian was the better team 5x5 a majority of the time. They absolutely swarmed Gunn-Taylor in the second period and were robbed on a few grade A scoring chances. It was only a matter of time before they were going to be put one home in that 5-6 minute stretch without a whistle. They did just that when Dahlinger put home a goal on a scrum in front of the net.

They certainly can skate with Oswego and if they would have kept their cool last night I think we would have seen a much tighter game than the 5-2 score would suggest.

Also, who the heck was keeping shots last night? It seemed like any time the puck came past the blue line they counted a shot on goal.

I will not be surprised one bit if Adrian is in Lake Placid come March.

They will have a tough road though trying to knock off a combination of St. Norbert/CSS/Hamline especially since they won't be battle tested anymore with the MCHA games all left to play.

 

[lakerfan]

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"The penalty I was the most disappointed in was when Adrian got penalized after Selleck took a swipe at Fogal after the whistle was blown and then an Adrian player came in to protect the goalie and he got whistled for the call."

The whistle had NOT blown yet, in I think that Fogal fumbled the puck a little too. How about the penalty that took a goal away from the laker's, VERY weak call!!!! Calls were bad BOTH ways.

 

[JMD9]

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I will not be surprised one bit if Adrian is in Lake Placid come March.

Hasn't Adrian always won this many games in a season and never make the tournament because they would have to qualify for Pool B(?) or C(?) bids but never play anyone all that fantastic until this year... so they run all over their weak conference which comes back to bite them come selection time. Although adding Oswego to their schedule this year helps their strength of schedule. However, this is a make or break year I would say because I dont think, after the fight at the end (I wasn't there, I was just told about it) that they will have a hard time convincing another top team to schedule them. Thus keeping them just on the cusp of breaking into the final four.

 

[The Real Georgia Peach]

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Well, they'll probably get into the tournament by winning their conference. If they have to face Hamline again, everybody knows how difficult it is to beat a team three times in a season, so they could pass that hurdle. A trip to Lake Placid is definately not out of the question....(BTW, they'll be at Norwich next year, still working on OOC good opponents.)

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Hasn't Adrian always won this many games in a season and never make the tournament because they would have to qualify for Pool B(?) or C(?) bids but never play anyone all that fantastic until this year... so they run all over their weak conference which comes back to bite them come selection time. Although adding Oswego to their schedule this year helps their strength of schedule. However, this is a make or break year I would say because I dont think, after the fight at the end (I wasn't there, I was just told about it) that they will have a hard time convincing another top team to schedule them. Thus keeping them just on the cusp of breaking into the final four.

Adrian is basically a given into the NCAA Tournament this year because they have Pool A automatic bid with the MCHA.

If Adrian loses in the MCHA tournament, it will be as big of an upset as the US team beating USSR in Placid

So basically...pencil Adrian in.

(Yes i know anything can happen but lets call a spade a spade. Adrian will know an NCAA tournament bid is on the line in those MCHA tournament games and will be playing as hard as they ever have more than likely.)

 

[norm1909]

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..., a boneheaded play by Fogal that resulted in the gift wrapped third Oswego goal, killed off two 5x3's and they were still down just 3-2 with 2 minutes to go in the game against the #1 team in the nation on Oswego's home ice.

Not too shabby at all...

Did you teach this to Solly

 

[mtuck20]

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Well I know one of the plays in the period that disturbed me happened right in front of Fogal. Now, I didn't pay attention to who it was, and I believe the penalty was called on it. A Laker ended up face down on the ice in front of Fogal. One of the Bulldogs put a cross check into the back of his head and just started slamming his head into the ice. In fact, the stick ended up slipping off the helmet onto the neck. Thats uncalled for. I'm all for physical hockey. Hits from behind happen on accident sometimes, and I can deal with that. But this penalty was ridiculous. That should be intent to injure and a match. You can break someones neck that way......And I still don't think Adrian was with Oswego 5v5. They had 1 good 5v5 set that ended in a goal. Most of the rest of the time shots were blocked, bad angle, out far, passes blocked, etc. Like I said somewhere else, Adrian would be between 3-5 if you dropped them into SUNYAC. As far as non-league games go, I think all of the ECAC-W teams the Lakers have played (Hobart, Utica, Elmira) have put up a better fight.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Well I know one of the plays in the period that disturbed me happened right in front of Fogal. Now, I didn't pay attention to who it was, and I believe the penalty was called on it. A Laker ended up face down on the ice in front of Fogal. One of the Bulldogs put a cross check into the back of his head and just started slamming his head into the ice. In fact, the stick ended up slipping off the helmet onto the neck. Thats uncalled for. I'm all for physical hockey. Hits from behind happen on accident sometimes, and I can deal with that. But this penalty was ridiculous. That should be intent to injure and a match. You can break someones neck that way......And I still don't think Adrian was with Oswego 5v5. They had 1 good 5v5 set that ended in a goal. Most of the rest of the time shots were blocked, bad angle, out far, passes blocked, etc. Like I said somewhere else, Adrian would be between 3-5 if you dropped them into SUNYAC. As far as non-league games go, I think all of the ECAC-W teams the Lakers have played (Hobart, Utica, Elmira) have put up a better fight.

Adrian would skate circles around Utica.

Hobart is nowhere near impressive anymore this year without DeCroo and Longo and the seniors they lost last year.

Elmira and Adrian would be a good game.

Adrian dominated the second period man. The set you speak of was also 5-6 minutes long too as there wasn't a whistle.

Oswego was gassed and desperately needed a rest and they didnt get it until Dahlinger put it in the back of the net.

 

[nysportsfan29]

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Adrian would skate circles around Utica.

Hobart is nowhere near impressive anymore this year without DeCroo and Longo and the seniors they lost last year.

Elmira and Adrian would be a good game.

Adrian dominated the second period man. The set you speak of was also 5-6 minutes long too as there wasn't a whistle.

Oswego was gassed and desperately needed a rest and they didnt get it until Dahlinger put it in the back of the net.

Is DeCroo hurt? Or did he leave school?

 

[mtuck20]

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Adrian would skate circles around Utica.

Hobart is nowhere near impressive anymore this year without DeCroo and Longo and the seniors they lost last year.

Elmira and Adrian would be a good game.

Adrian dominated the second period man. The set you speak of was also 5-6 minutes long too as there wasn't a whistle.

Oswego was gassed and desperately needed a rest and they didnt get it until Dahlinger put it in the back of the net.

What I'm trying to say is that those games seemed more "in doubt" than this one ever seemed. Oswego has a tendency to keep the score close for too long. In the Adrian game, while the score was close, I never felt like Oswego was threatened, not until Fogal was pulled at the end. The game seemed more like one of those "We are outplaying them aside from the goalie, so we better put one in before they do." Had a feel much like the Laker/Fredonia playoff where the kid stood on his head for 2 rounds and won them the SUNYAC by himself. Maybe in that 5-6 minute stretch they needed a rest, but thats because a couple of early injuries had shortened their bench. After Oswego put in goal 3, it was basically done.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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What I'm trying to say is that those games seemed more "in doubt" than this one ever seemed. Oswego has a tendency to keep the score close for too long. In the Adrian game, while the score was close, I never felt like Oswego was threatened, not until Fogal was pulled at the end. The game seemed more like one of those "We are outplaying them aside from the goalie, so we better put one in before they do." Had a feel much like the Laker/Fredonia playoff where the kid stood on his head for 2 rounds and won them the SUNYAC by himself. Maybe in that 5-6 minute stretch they needed a rest, but thats because a couple of early injuries had shortened their bench. After Oswego put in goal 3, it was basically done.

I can agree with that.

Oswego's third goal was huge on a variety of levels. It was a weak goal and unfortunate for Adrian that it happened right after they scored. They escape with a 2-1 deficit, the third might have been completely different.

 

[Laker Ranger]

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I can agree with that.

Oswego's third goal was huge on a variety of levels. It was a weak goal and unfortunate for Adrian that it happened right after they scored. They escape with a 2-1 deficit, the third might have been completely different.

Indeed - OT would have been a likely result had the 3rd still played out the way it did, and I bet the Bulldogs wouldn't have taken as many stupid penalties as they did when the period was ticking down slooooowwwlly (9:30 for end of game is pretty long). What it may have emphasized was that the Bulldogs and Lakers were evenly matched , but Oswego could put it over the top by taking advantage of those opportunities like when the goalie waltzed out and the second goal blast.

As for the penalties, I believe some of what you said is true, and the Adrianers have said it flat out - out west, its a new style of aggresive play for the Bulldogs. They can do the roughing and checking there that would otherwise be called here. However, there was still plenty of garbage committed on their part to warrant some of those penalties - it's what makes you stand out as a decent team on the road to use your style of play to make the game move at your pace, but not be stuck in that single dimension when conditions deem otherwise, even with zealot refs. If the Lakers could play to the ref's level, so could the Bulldogs, and aggression is not the single key to victory.

Just my humble opinion - and yes, I also would like to see Adrian again in the NCAA. Its a heluva game they play.

 

[97osu]

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Oswego skated the worst game they have had this season. If they continue to not pick the pace up, they will come out of the SUNYAC with 2-3 loses. The lack of using their speed and opening up the game against Adrian, would have resulted in losses to any of the 3rd-4th place SUNYAC teams.

Adrian I thought was a weak skating team - good hands and skills, yet slow! The ECAC West has some good skating teams regardless of their records, and if Adrian made an East trip through the ECAC West and SUNYAC, they would be out skated and go home with a bunch of losses

 

[bakdraft21]

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ok all you OSU insiders, give me the updates on all the injuries/new guy/s, dog house residents, and what will shakeout for the next few weeks, as I plan to go bak to Oz for the Hockey alum weekend, and want to see a kick-*** weekend of hockey and drink a few with my nephew..... thnks.....

 

[one_to7]

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Adrian is not slow.

Any appearance of slowness would be 1) you're not good at guaging speed or 2) Oswego was doing a good job clogging up passing lanes so that the bulldogs just weren't able o get moving before having to chip the puck up.

Georgia Peach: Adrian would have to be flown to Hamline for the NCAAs, so I really doubt we'd see that matchup unless both teams made it to Placid.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Adrian is not slow.

Any appearance of slowness would be 1) you're not good at guaging speed or 2) Oswego was doing a good job clogging up passing lanes so that the bulldogs just weren't able o get moving before having to chip the puck up.

Georgia Peach: Adrian would have to be flown to Hamline for the NCAAs, so I really doubt we'd see that matchup unless both teams made it to Placid.

Oswego did an OUTSTANDING job clogging passing lanes. I didnt think Adrian looked slow but that was just my opinion. They hung right with Oswego who is usually one of the faster teams in the East.

I initially told NorthernLite that I said there is no way the West gets two teams to Placid. However, Now I thought about it a little bit more and I think 2-2 Frozen Fours might become the norm depending on how they deal with Adrian and where they send them for games.

The West is guaranteed three teams now and more than likely the loser of CSS and SNC will be locking up a Pool C bid baring a collapse.

The committee would only be able to send Adrian to SNC in that scenario correct? Unless they shipped them to Oswego or Elmira (assuming they both get in)

I think a dream scenario for the NCAA would be to put Oswego as the #1 seed and have two play-in games in the East and one in the West while Adrian travels to Elmira for a play-in game. Then the Bulldogs could just go to Oswego right after if they beat Elmira for the quarterfinals.

That makes it a 3-1 split and the committee still only has to fly one team. Unless I'm missing something. Obviously this is a lot of speculating and there is a ton of hockey left to be played. Just thinking out loud here

 

[WTOPAsstChief]

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If I'm not mistaken, Carr did not play did he? When is he expected to take the ice? Anybody know where he will fit in?

 

[Ozz]

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I didn't think Adrian was slow at all. I thought they were very skilled and was always looking to shoot from any angle any time. I thought they were a little too offensive minded at times and certainly lost their cool at points.

Speaking of which...I was thoroughly impressed with Selleck being able to keep his cool throughout the game. He was certainly barking during the game but never once retaliated or threw a punch/shove like he normally does. Maybe Gosek has finally gotten to Selleck?

How about the job KGT did? I thought he was excellent again. Made some strong saves on excellent scoring opportunities that kept the Lakers ahead.