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Osama bin Laden Declared Dead
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Handyman
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ScoobyDoo
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This would have been even better if CSI Miami (which I assume is the reference) had not been taken off the air at the same time. Alas, it was.
This would have been even better if CSI Miami (which I assume is the reference) had not been taken off the air at the same time. Alas, it was.
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my screen name reflects my "nontraditional student" standing in undergraduate courses. I'm the grumpy guy in the back row with some gray hairs.
I'm not quite SS age though.
my screen name reflects my "nontraditional student" standing in undergraduate courses. I'm the grumpy guy in the back row with some gray hairs.
I'm not quite SS age though.
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Most interesting news items today: 1)The necessary intel came by way of waterboarding before that practice was ended (how ironic if Obama gets the bulk of the credit for finding him), and 2) Pakistan military was knowingly harboring OBL.
Most interesting news items today: 1)The necessary intel came by way of waterboarding before that practice was ended (how ironic if Obama gets the bulk of the credit for finding him), and 2) Pakistan military was knowingly harboring OBL.
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Where are you getting this info? I have heard that it was a Gitmo prisoner, but haven't heard anything about the waterboarding. Also, as much as it doesn't take any stretch of imagination to deduce that the Pakistani military knew about him being there, I haven't heard of any proof of it as of yet.
Where are you getting this info? I have heard that it was a Gitmo prisoner, but haven't heard anything about the waterboarding. Also, as much as it doesn't take any stretch of imagination to deduce that the Pakistani military knew about him being there, I haven't heard of any proof of it as of yet.
ScoobyDoo
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On point one I'm pretty sure I have heard it reported a couple of times that "enhanced" interrogation techniques were used to get the information. That's water boarding in layman's terms.
On point one I'm pretty sure I have heard it reported a couple of times that "enhanced" interrogation techniques were used to get the information. That's water boarding in layman's terms.
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I should have said "speculation", not "news". The word "waterboarding" might have been in National Review Online or other Drudge source. I think the story also said it was in a middle east CIA prison, not Gitmo.
The Pakistan complicity is written about here and elsewhere.
I should have said "speculation", not "news". The word "waterboarding" might have been in National Review Online or other Drudge source. I think the story also said it was in a middle east CIA prison, not Gitmo.
The Pakistan complicity is written about here and elsewhere.
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except that article is obviously about ron jeremy!
except that article is obviously about ron jeremy!
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I don't know, I don't think it's that much of a leap to make. We waterboarded 3 detainees, KSM being one of them. Seems like a pretty good assumption that was one of the "harsh" tactics the article refers to.
I don't know, I don't think it's that much of a leap to make. We waterboarded 3 detainees, KSM being one of them. Seems like a pretty good assumption that was one of the "harsh" tactics the article refers to.
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Regarding Pakistan (oh, and let me get my approval from jmh before I post this...what's that? oh okay: "green light") its 100% believable to me that some members, perhaps even high ranking ones, where complicit in keeping OBL's whereabouts hidden. No big surprise there. However, that's different than saying it was the military's policy to shield him, or the central government's. Look, I'm not thrilled with Pakistan's actions in all of this, but some idiot suggested an investigation or launching some other formal accusastions. What's the point? OBL is dead. Why after the fact turn a sorta helpful government into an arch enemy based on speculations?
Regarding Pakistan (oh, and let me get my approval from jmh before I post this...what's that? oh okay: "green light") its 100% believable to me that some members, perhaps even high ranking ones, where complicit in keeping OBL's whereabouts hidden. No big surprise there. However, that's different than saying it was the military's policy to shield him, or the central government's. Look, I'm not thrilled with Pakistan's actions in all of this, but some idiot suggested an investigation or launching some other formal accusastions. What's the point? OBL is dead. Why after the fact turn a sorta helpful government into an arch enemy based on speculations?
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There won't be "investigations" of a sovereign nation. There will be more ops done without their knowledge or consent, and perhaps they'll see a cut in aid from the US.