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Ok Penn State....but who is next???
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SoCalSiouxFan
Registered User
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Speaking of $$$ arenas outside the BTHC!
What about PAC 8 hockey?
http://www.pac8hockey.com/
Moving PAC 8 ice hockey to Division I would be huge.
California alone has a population approaching $39 million and is rapidly becomming the Golden State of Hockey with enormous growth potential. California already has 3 NHL arenas that are usually filled to capacity. Tickets are expensive.
California also has large hockey arena's (seating of 10,000 or more) that are used for purposes other than hockey. Such as the Great Western Forum, the Los Angeles Sports Arena, and the Long Beach Sports Arena
http://www.longbeachcc.com/static/index.cfm?contentID=1208&navid=1200
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forum_(Inglewood,_California)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Memorial_Sports_Arena
California also has Tier I developmental programs that are supplying players to Division I hockey.
PAC 8 may make a move to division I hockey eventually but I would rather see something happen now rather than later. Big problem is that no individual team seems to want to take the move on their own because of the travel costs. Currently the only Division I ice hockey programs on the west coast are in Alaska.
Southern California would be a nice place for Holiday Tournaments also.
You know, if this is the result of the BTHC (BSU and the like with multi million $$$ arenas, and start-ups like SDSU playing in the equivilant of some of the high school rinks I go to), maybe that's not so bad. BSU instantly becomes a have (at least of those outside the BTHC)...
Speaking of $$$ arenas outside the BTHC!
What about PAC 8 hockey?
http://www.pac8hockey.com/
Moving PAC 8 ice hockey to Division I would be huge.
California alone has a population approaching $39 million and is rapidly becomming the Golden State of Hockey with enormous growth potential. California already has 3 NHL arenas that are usually filled to capacity. Tickets are expensive.
California also has large hockey arena's (seating of 10,000 or more) that are used for purposes other than hockey. Such as the Great Western Forum, the Los Angeles Sports Arena, and the Long Beach Sports Arena
http://www.longbeachcc.com/static/index.cfm?contentID=1208&navid=1200
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forum_(Inglewood,_California)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Memorial_Sports_Arena
California also has Tier I developmental programs that are supplying players to Division I hockey.
PAC 8 may make a move to division I hockey eventually but I would rather see something happen now rather than later. Big problem is that no individual team seems to want to take the move on their own because of the travel costs. Currently the only Division I ice hockey programs on the west coast are in Alaska.
Southern California would be a nice place for Holiday Tournaments also.
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Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Penn could instantly add D-I hockey, but they just dont care enough to do it. Btw, their support for basketball and football isn't too good right now. We need D-I hockey in Philly, but other than Penn, no one has the money to get it done. We certainly dont. Wish we did, and maybe one day, but not anytime soon. The best bet for D-I hockey in Philly is Penn, and that's a huge longshot unfortunately, and for the rest of us, it's a pipedream.
Penn could instantly add D-I hockey, but they just dont care enough to do it. Btw, their support for basketball and football isn't too good right now. We need D-I hockey in Philly, but other than Penn, no one has the money to get it done. We certainly dont. Wish we did, and maybe one day, but not anytime soon. The best bet for D-I hockey in Philly is Penn, and that's a huge longshot unfortunately, and for the rest of us, it's a pipedream.
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Never say never on what? Penn or another Philly school?
Never say never on what? Penn or another Philly school?
Driftryder
Gopher Hockey
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Very true, I never thought another Big Ten/Penn St thread could possibly pop up after the first 10 but I was wrong.
Very true, I never thought another Big Ten/Penn St thread could possibly pop up after the first 10 but I was wrong.
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
This really is huge news, even the folks in the NHL are talking about it. lol
This really is huge news, even the folks in the NHL are talking about it. lol
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Who are the other options in Philly, really? Villanova? Temple? Neither of them strike me as candidates.
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
On a collegiate basis, Philly is a basketball town. Why? Big Five. They have plenty of games without having to travel.
Temple can barely support a football team, in a city where the most popular pro sport is football. Villanova finally restarted its football program after I don't know how many years of shutdown. I don't see them putting any money into hockey.
I'd love to see a college hockey team in Philly, especially if it were Penn, but it ain't gonna happen.
What scares me more is if Syracuse goes D1. I could see that being the start of the new Empire State Hockey League. That would pull schools from the ECAC and AHA leaving the Ivies on their own.
On a collegiate basis, Philly is a basketball town. Why? Big Five. They have plenty of games without having to travel.
Temple can barely support a football team, in a city where the most popular pro sport is football. Villanova finally restarted its football program after I don't know how many years of shutdown. I don't see them putting any money into hockey.
I'd love to see a college hockey team in Philly, especially if it were Penn, but it ain't gonna happen.
What scares me more is if Syracuse goes D1. I could see that being the start of the new Empire State Hockey League. That would pull schools from the ECAC and AHA leaving the Ivies on their own.
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Hey all,
I haven't really read the forum on this at all, but what does this mean for other conferences?
Obviously it's destined for the CCHA to lose Michigan, Michigan State, and Ohio State with the WCHA losing Wisconsin and Notre Dame. CHN had a great article about the potential for some schools to branch off and build their own conference. What are the possibilities?
I was doing some thinking, and it seems like there's a good shot at some heavy realignment among the Great Lakes schools and the western schools. I see the potential for some conferences looking to Canisius and Mercyhurst in AHA and St. Lawrence/Clarkson in ECAC. RIT might be a juicy option since they're fresh off a Frozen Four appearance and they're playing in a conference that (while I love it because I'm involved with it) does not have nearly the reputation of producing national title contenders...
What are the thoughts of what might happen from here?
Hey all,
I haven't really read the forum on this at all, but what does this mean for other conferences?
Obviously it's destined for the CCHA to lose Michigan, Michigan State, and Ohio State with the WCHA losing Wisconsin and Notre Dame. CHN had a great article about the potential for some schools to branch off and build their own conference. What are the possibilities?
I was doing some thinking, and it seems like there's a good shot at some heavy realignment among the Great Lakes schools and the western schools. I see the potential for some conferences looking to Canisius and Mercyhurst in AHA and St. Lawrence/Clarkson in ECAC. RIT might be a juicy option since they're fresh off a Frozen Four appearance and they're playing in a conference that (while I love it because I'm involved with it) does not have nearly the reputation of producing national title contenders...
What are the thoughts of what might happen from here?
Beer Pong Horn
soldier of fortune
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
It's like 1981 all over again!
As for the other possibilities, read back in all of the threads - general consensus is that the WCHA could survive on its own without Minnesota and Wisconsin, but the CCHA will return to its pre-1981 condition of being a bottom-feeder league, or will perhaps fold altogether. Some think that the better teams from both conferences will try to merge into an Anti-BTHC, leaving the bottom halves of both to band together or die as they choose.
It's like 1981 all over again!
As for the other possibilities, read back in all of the threads - general consensus is that the WCHA could survive on its own without Minnesota and Wisconsin, but the CCHA will return to its pre-1981 condition of being a bottom-feeder league, or will perhaps fold altogether. Some think that the better teams from both conferences will try to merge into an Anti-BTHC, leaving the bottom halves of both to band together or die as they choose.
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
The bolded is not going to happen short of the complete dynamiting of the ECAC.
The bolded is not going to happen short of the complete dynamiting of the ECAC.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
and I don't see any reason to dynamite the ECAC... I swear, something happens and all the crazies think somehow their ideas just became better.
and I don't see any reason to dynamite the ECAC... I swear, something happens and all the crazies think somehow their ideas just became better.
G
Gurtholfin
Guest
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
re: on never saying never
I will NEVER feel anything but utter contempt and hatred for the Gophers and Vikings.
I actually feel pretty confident in that statement.
re: on never saying never
I will NEVER feel anything but utter contempt and hatred for the Gophers and Vikings.
I actually feel pretty confident in that statement.
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Phew.
Nice to see that you are are Twins fan!
re: on never saying never
I will NEVER feel anything but utter contempt and hatred for the Gophers and Vikings.
I actually feel pretty confident in that statement.
Phew.
Nice to see that you are are Twins fan!
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
MSU-Moorhead DI hockey still on backburner
MSU-Moorhead DI hockey still on backburner
(i.e. until state budget situation is better and a conference opens up a spot)
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Even if it is on the back burner it is still a good thing. They are probably in discussions about the program and are figuring something out. The most realistic way for them to start up a team is to get an alumni or group of alumni to donate money to get the team going. They could easily play as an independent and play the other MN schools/UND and CCHA teams in games and maybe make a deal to come out east once a year against an ECAC or HE team.
Even if it is on the back burner it is still a good thing. They are probably in discussions about the program and are figuring something out. The most realistic way for them to start up a team is to get an alumni or group of alumni to donate money to get the team going. They could easily play as an independent and play the other MN schools/UND and CCHA teams in games and maybe make a deal to come out east once a year against an ECAC or HE team.
Re: Ok Penn State....but who is next???
Doesn't matter what burner the issue is on, there are no spots in the current conferences.
The only realistic way that changes is if a) teams start folding, or b) the BTHC forms.
I know a lot of people don't want to see it, but the current structure of college hockey is unsustainable, and the BTHC might actually be able to help that.
Doesn't matter what burner the issue is on, there are no spots in the current conferences.
The only realistic way that changes is if a) teams start folding, or b) the BTHC forms.
I know a lot of people don't want to see it, but the current structure of college hockey is unsustainable, and the BTHC might actually be able to help that.