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Ohio State Buckeyes 2016-2017

pgb-ohio said:
For most observers, the conversion rate is goals per PP opportunity, not goals per game. But either way the number is unacceptable. That said, it's also a stat that's being lifted out of context.

Most of the WCHA is currently challenged in this department. Six of our Eight teams rank 24th or worse. (Bottom Third) But would you argue that 6 of the 8 WCHA teams are among the worst in the country?

Further, you have a small n problem. Add 3 PP Goals and OSU would be exactly tied with UND and in a virtual dead heat with BSU. (at #24 & #25) In other words, in the middle of the WCHA pack. So just a small uptick would eliminate the "scandal," and the topic wouldn't have arisen.

Part of the issue is that WCHA teams face strong PK units week after week. It that category, Five of the Eight WCHA teams rank 13th or better. (Top Third)

FWIW, OSU's PK is 6th in the nation with a 91.5% success rate. In the league, that's behind only UND. Also part of the larger picture is the fact we're 2nd in the nation in Penalty Minutes taken at 6.2 per game. Only Minnesota has fewer.

No question the Buckeye PP needs work. But add a little context, see a fuller picture.
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Interesting however adding 3 goals to their 4 for 57 performance would be almost doubling their output on the pp which is no small task. This is a young team and I would not expect much more from them in the 2nd half unless they start shooting the puck a little more when they are on the pp. They seem to be looking for that perfect shot all the time. If you don't shoot, it is tough to score and their low shot count is a key contributor to their low offensive output so far this season.
 
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Puckdrop14 said:
Interesting however adding 3 goals to their 4 for 57 performance would be almost doubling their output on the pp which is no small task.
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Have to disagree on this point. It actually IS a small task. A single 3 for 5 night against Penn State or Mankato would get the job done.

Maybe this example makes my original point clearer. Even if the one big night comes through, you wouldn't argue that the PP was cured on that basis alone. Nor would you conclude the rest of year (on the man advantage) had been hunky dory after all. When the numbers are this small, doubling isn't that hard and doesn't constitute much of an accomplishment.

I still say that the big picture is that OSU is part of group of 6 WCHA teams that all need significant improvement on the PP. Within that group, the marginal difference of three goals isn't the real issue and isn't worth panicking over.

This is a young team and I would not expect much more from them in the 2nd half unless they start shooting the puck a little more when they are on the pp. They seem to be looking for that perfect shot all the time. If you don't shoot, it is tough to score and their low shot count is a key contributor to their low offensive output so far this season.
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Good observations. I would add that good defenses taking away shooting lanes has a lot to do with the reluctance to shoot. But you're right: If the finesse plays aren't clicking, it's time to get the puck to the net and try for the so-called greasy goals.
 
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Looks like Breanna Blesi is coming to UW and not OSU. Any idea to which coach she committed to at OSU? I always wonder on these flips what the backstory is as to why she was interested in OSU and at what point did MJ decide to get involved.
 
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Timothy A said:
Looks like Breanna Blesi is coming to UW and not OSU. Any idea to which coach she committed to at OSU? I always wonder on these flips what the backstory is as to why she was interested in OSU and at what point did MJ decide to get involved.
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I am sure it has more to do with playing behind Kassidy Sauve for the next 2 yrs...........one only gets 4 yrs and to ride the bench for 2 yrs would not be a great experience !
 
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BigFan said:
I am sure it has more to do with playing behind Kassidy Sauve for the next 2 yrs...........one only gets 4 yrs and to ride the bench for 2 yrs would not be a great experience !
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That though did cross my mind. She will be on the UW roster with Nicole Cece for 3 years, a highly regarded goalie also, we shall see if she can beat out Cece for PT as a Fr. when Cece will have probably 12 games under her belt already.
 
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I just wanted to get on here and wish all of you a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year! It's great to hang out here and talk college hockey 24/7/365 and I thoroughly appreciate the interactions with all my friends on here!
 
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osualum86 said:
I just wanted to get on here and wish all of you a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year! It's great to hang out here and talk college hockey 24/7/365 and I thoroughly appreciate the interactions with all my friends on here!
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Ho, Ho, Ho--------Merry Christmas :)
 
BigFan said:
I am sure it has more to do with playing behind Kassidy Sauve for the next 2 yrs...........one only gets 4 yrs and to ride the bench for 2 yrs would not be a great experience !
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With Sauve's history of injury issues not sure why she wouldn't stockpile some talented goalies. Must have someone else in mind to bring in for next year.
 
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Women's team got a little shoutout during the men's game vs. Miami. Gotta work on those shootout skills! ;) :D
 
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She wasn't "cut loose", she left on her own volition... Competing for starting position had nothing to do with her decision.
 
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Blester said:
She wasn't "cut loose", she left on her own volition... Competing for starting position had nothing to do with her decision.
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Don't take it too personally. Lots of folks assume a lot of stuff based on their own view of the world. Others just express thoughts in ways they probably don't mean. Its hard to tell the difference sometimes. since you can't fix the former and should forgive the latter it is best to just let it go.
 
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ne7minder said:
Don't take it too personally. Lots of folks assume a lot of stuff based on their own view of the world. Others just express thoughts in ways they probably don't mean. Its hard to tell the difference sometimes. since you can't fix the former and should forgive the latter it is best to just let it go.
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In other words, some people are uninformed idiots who think they know everything but yet they know nothing. One thing I do know is if I were a player relative or friend, I'd stay away from these boards for just such a reason.
 
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Have to give a shout out to the new coaching staff at OSU. Saw them all over New England at the Prep School tournaments before Christmas and the club team showcases over the holiday break.
 
Double Eagle said:
Have to give a shout out to the new coaching staff at OSU. Saw them all over New England at the Prep School tournaments before Christmas and the club team showcases over the holiday break.
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That is very good for them to be seen at those places but are top end prep school players really even looking at schools like OSU? I would think it's probably well down on their list but maybe the "second tier" of prep players might be more open and interested in an opportunity at a school like OSU. The problem is OSU needs better than second tier players. It will be interesting to see how successful their recruiting efforts are in the prep school market.
 
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Game action resumes this weekend as Ohio State travels to Hockey Valley for a non-league series with Penn State. The Nittany Lions come into the game with a 4-3-1 record in CHA play, but only 5-11-4 overall. The Buckeyes will come into the weekend with an 8-10-2 record overall (4-10-2 WCHA). Should be an interesting series and could go either way. The only common opponent is Lindenwood. Ohio State swept Lindenwood. Penn State defeated and tied Lindenwood.
 
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shelfit said:
That is very good for them to be seen at those places but are top end prep school players really even looking at schools like OSU? I would think it's probably well down on their list but maybe the "second tier" of prep players might be more open and interested in an opportunity at a school like OSU. The problem is OSU needs better than second tier players. It will be interesting to see how successful their recruiting efforts are in the prep school market.
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One would think Muzzy would use her MN connections to the fullest. They only need to land 2 per year from MN that MN would have picked up (had WI passed on them of course ;)). Ride the pine @ UM for 2 years as they hoard players, then maybe play, or come to OSU and play 4 years.
 
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Timothy A said:
In other words, some people are uninformed idiots who think they know everything but yet they know nothing. One thing I do know is if I were a player relative or friend, I'd stay away from these boards for just such a reason.
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Or develop a thick skin & remind themselves that some people are idiots. To me the hard part would be when I knew something firsthand but couldn't share it. Blester seems to know something they are not sharing & thats OK. I have had a couple of those times and you just have to laugh at the know-it-all.

That filter that people use can be interesting. I first really noticed in back on collegehockey-l 30 years ago. The guy on your team was a goon but that guy on my team is a policeman. Your's was an instigator, mine was a pest. I found it funny after a while.
 
shelfit said:
That is very good for them to be seen at those places but are top end prep school players really even looking at schools like OSU? I would think it's probably well down on their list but maybe the "second tier" of prep players might be more open and interested in an opportunity at a school like OSU. The problem is OSU needs better than second tier players. It will be interesting to see how successful their recruiting efforts are in the prep school market.
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Second tier players like Dunne, Sauve, Fields and Maltais? More top players coming and with the new staff in place, they should be able to compete for players that will view a top state school as a great option. A new facility will not hurt if that's in the cards.Top tier players who want to make an immediate impact will be looking at this school. Coaching stability is key. Time will tell.
 
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