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Ohio State Buckeyes 2012-2013 Thread

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Would Ohio State ever consider a move to the CHA to give that conference the required numbers for an auto-bid to the NCAA Playoffs?
 
Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2012-2013 Thread

Would Ohio State ever consider a move to the CHA to give that conference the required numbers for an auto-bid to the NCAA Playoffs?
Assuming no defections, the CHA should have the six teams in another couple of years w/o Ohio State. The conference has to play together as six for two years, so the Buckeyes wouldn't expedite the process at this point.
 
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Assuming no defections, the CHA should have the six teams in another couple of years w/o Ohio State. The conference has to play together as six for two years, so the Buckeyes wouldn't expedite the process at this point.

I thought it was 7 teams? My mistake. I guess another question is, would they consider a move to both, cut back on their travel and put them in a conference where they could have immediate success. Those points being made given that an auto-bid spot would be available?
 
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I thought it was 7 teams? My mistake. I guess another question is, would they consider a move to both, cut back on their travel and put them in a conference where they could have immediate success. Those points being made given that an auto-bid spot would be available?

Pgb would know this for sure but it seems to me OSU explored the possibility in the past of going to the CHA, but in the end they opted to stay in the WCHA, which I agree with. In order to be the best, you have to compete against and beat the best. We may not be there yet, but I agree with staying in the WCHA and playing in the best conference in NCAA womens hockey.
 
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I've posted quite a bit on this over the years; I'm reluctant to put up a long re-run on the subject. But the short version of a long story:

In the early years of the OSU program, serious consideration was given to making the move. The possibility of reducing travel costs was clearly relevant; having an in-state league rival was attractive. Back when the Findlay program was active I used to drive up there for each year's road game with the Oilers. Unfortunately Findlay dropped it's program. Only insiders know for sure, but the timing suggests that development helped turned the tide against the possible move.

Personally I have always been in favor of staying in the WCHA. I agree with '86 100% -- as Buckeyes we want to be in the best possible league and play the strongest possible competition. With all due respect to the improving CHA, that objective is best met by staying put.

Further, I've greatly enjoyed the fact that we play league games against fellow Big Ten schools Minnesota and Wisconsin. Obviously those schools aren't in the Men's CCHA, so their hockey visits to Columbus have been very limited. I actually can't remember if the Badger Men have ever made the trip.

Beyond the BT rivals, we now have a long-standing association with all of the member schools. We're a charter member of the Women's WCHA. The league has a proud history of 13 years and counting. That's not something to be given up lightly.

Granted, the addition of Penn State to the Women's CHA muddies the picture a bit. Since a Women's BT Hockey conference is likely to be a ways off, hockey people from around the country have wondered if PSU's league choice might cause OSU to reconsider. But that's the rub; it's people from elsewhere, toying with realignment ideas, that are making the noise. I don't have any information or intuition that anyone from OSU is promoting such a move.
 
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... I guess another question is, would they consider a move to ... put them in a conference where they could have immediate success. Those points being made given that an auto-bid spot would be available?
This is a natural question to ask, and it comes up every time OSU/CHA subject arises. Speaking only for myself, the answer is no -- I'm not interested in looking for a shortcut to the NCAA Tournament. I want us to earn a bid right where we are -- and to be capable of doing some damage once we get to the tournament.

Further, planning on "immediate success" is a dangerous assumption. For one thing, anyone who thinks a victory over Mercyhurst is a gimme is in for a very rude awakening!
 
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Very well put, Pgb. I really enjoy your insights regarding our womens hockey program. The season is right around the corner!
 
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:confused::confused:
I actually think we are going to finish in the middle of the pack somewhere. I don't see us getting home ice, but I don't see us in the cellar either. Yes, we lost a lot of scoring, but we have kids back who know how to put the puck in the back of the net, and we only lost two defensemen. I am sure this team is working very hard right now and will continue to work hard. My post may have come across as thinking the team will finish in the top four and get home ice. I don't think that is going to happen this season, but as Coach Handrahan continues to bring in talented recruiting classes, the rebuilding seasons will be exception rather than the rule. I certainly think he has us moving in the right direction.

I have to think they too may finish near bottom of the WCHA. How was Handrahan record coaching Robert Morris and Niagra? He leaves Robert Morris with not a good record. New coach comes into Robert Morris with a lot of the same players and beats Mercyhurst to win CHA championship this year under new coaching. I wish Ohio State good luck this season only time will tell.
 
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Not sure where OSU will finish. Still picking them 4 or 5. I do know that Handrahan and staff is a 100 times better than the staff before him. He has the girls working hard this year and hired a very good coaching staff in Coach Mac and Mox. Just added a goalie coach which should help. Goalie Knapp was considered fo the USA's before injury 100% now along with Steffes who played very good her Fresh season. Yes they lose a ton of scoring but do feel they will be a solid team top to bottom.

They will have to keep teams under 2-3 and score 3-4. I see Hok scoring 25 plus and if they can get Kuehl to shoot could see 15-20 out of her. Tarr, Semenza, Gagne and maybe one of the new Fresh who can fly could score 10-20 you could have 100+ goals.

Yes they lose Wild and Carlson but Defense will be much bigger and should help in the WCHA.

Yes a lot of if's but what team other than UND doesn't in the WCHA. As always and with any team special teams will be the key. Got to be better than last year on the PP which shouldn't be too hard.

They will bring it and play hard every shift. Coach is a motivator/communicator.

Go Bucks!
 
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Certainly that's the formula; let's hope it plays out just that way!

Also, great news on both coaching hires. Congrats to both Brit and Jeff.
 
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Certainly that's the formula; let's hope it plays out just that way!

Also, great news on both coaching hires. Congrats to both Brit and Jeff.



We have to defend and support our favorite teams. Could they finish worse? Of course. Would I still be a fan? Of course. Anything can happen as some teams like Maine, Robert Morris last year had hot goalies and won some big games. I think it was kinda out of line on the post of coach Handrahan's past record and improvement of his former team. Remember he recuited those girls. They probably played hard for the new coach. They had a hot goalie. And they won without a top scorer :) It can be done!

We beat #1 WI last year and we lost about the same scoring. We beat BSU last year 2-1-1 and they lose their Goalie. How many games did she win for them? SCSU didn't gain much and MSU might wake up sometime. So 4-5 is doable.

One more thing I love you and osualum86's passion and support.

Go Bucks!
 
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Not sure where OSU will finish. Still picking them 4 or 5.
Fifth is very reasonable. Fourth is possible, but that means finishing above at least one of UMD, UND, UM, and UW, teams that finished ahead of them by 2 games, 4 games, 8+ games, and 10+ games respectively a year ago. We'll get an indication in Week 1 of the WCHA schedule which team -- UMD or OSU -- was hit harder by graduation as they meet in Duluth.

I see Hok scoring 25 plus ...
She's shown that she has that in her. However, she didn't reach 20 in the last two combined, playing a lot of shifts with McIntosh, one of the most creative offensive players ever at Columbus. And if she gets off to a quick start, she'll have to carry the bullseye that has belonged to Spooner, one of the most respected players in the league, for the last four years.

Yes a lot of if's but what team other than UND doesn't in the WCHA.
Even UND has question marks. They weren't exactly a finished product defensively, and now they have to figure out who will be their #1 in net.
 
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Fifth is very reasonable. Fourth is possible, but that means finishing above at least one of UMD, UND, UM, and UW, teams that finished ahead of them by 2 games, 4 games, 8+ games, and 10+ games respectively a year ago. We'll get an indication in Week 1 of the WCHA schedule which team -- UMD or OSU -- was hit harder by graduation as they meet in Duluth.

She's shown that she has that in her. However, she didn't reach 20 in the last two combined, playing a lot of shifts with McIntosh, one of the most creative offensive players ever at Columbus. And if she gets off to a quick start, she'll have to carry the bullseye that has belonged to Spooner, one of the most respected players in the league, for the last four years.

Even UND has question marks. They weren't exactly a finished product defensively, and now they have to figure out who will be their #1 in net.



I shouldn't admit this as I'm also a Gopher fan. But I feel UMD will be very good this year. Love their D and huge fan of Mcpharland. Yes, the 2nd weekend will be a good judge to OSU's season. Hopefully at home they can take one or two.

I'm very interested in WI and how well they will do this year with all the losses. I think East said they have great D but I like UM's and UMD's much beter. Gophers lost a ton but get some great replacements. UMD loses a great player and goalie but I like the way they play. Work their tails off.

I see it going.

UND
UM
UMD
WI or maybe another team putting it together. and hopefully OSU.

WI would not finish lower than 5 and could finish as high as 1. Just my opinions.
 
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Thanks for the kind words WCHFan! Cannot wait until the puck drops next month!
Acutally, this month:

Friday, September 28th @ 7:07 PM
Saturday, September 29th @ 4:07 PM

Ohio State vs. Lindenwood

See you at the Ice Rink!
 
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WI would not finish lower than 5 and could finish as high as 1. Just my opinions.
UW will finish higher than five. Look past what they lost and consider who they still have. Their goaltending and blue line are both far superior to that of UND, who you predict will win the league. The Badgers are in the best shape defensively of anyone in the league, and that's never a bad thing. Minnesota may be good eventually, but it will take time. UMD was good at the end of last season, but a lot of that was Harss playing great. Now they start over in goal.
 
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I shouldn't admit this as I'm also a Gopher fan. But I feel UMD will be very good this year. Love their D and huge fan of Mcpharland. Yes, the 2nd weekend will be a good judge to OSU's season. Hopefully at home they can take one or two.

I'm very interested in WI and how well they will do this year with all the losses. I think East said they have great D but I like UM's and UMD's much beter. Gophers lost a ton but get some great replacements. UMD loses a great player and goalie but I like the way they play. Work their tails off.

I see it going.

UND
UM
UMD
WI or maybe another team putting it together. and hopefully OSU.

WI would not finish lower than 5 and could finish as high as 1. Just my opinions.

Wow.... I've been away for awhile, I didn't know the wcha is now a 4 or 5 team league. What league are St Cloud, MN State and BSU playing in?
 
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Hey...if the Buckeyes want to supplant UW, UMD or UND in the top three...that's alright with me. I'd be all for it! ;)
 
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