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Ohio State 2024-25 Domination of the Portal Queen!

Wexner from The Limited was the big $$$ in town, and he got taken down in Epstein's mess. I've been to Columbus too many times, calling on The Limited, Victoria's Secret, Lerner, Lane Bryant, Bed Bath and Beyond. There's nothing in town, nothing, besides a big University. Sorta' like Madison! OK, Mad has a Capitol.
 
Suits me just fine old Les has slunk into the shadows since the Epstein thing (who didn't kill himself). With his money and position on the Board of Trustees he acted like the uncrowned king of OSU.
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
You can't stream the games?
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Oh, I'll stream. After I get back to town. I do want to be fully in the loop. But for personal thoughts & opinions, I'm not that worried about seeing the games in real time.

But I only do The 3 Stars for games I personally attend. Have always followed that rule.
 
drewkal said:
Wexner from The Limited was the big $$$ in town, and he got taken down in Epstein's mess. I've been to Columbus too many times, calling on The Limited, Victoria's Secret, Lerner, Lane Bryant, Bed Bath and Beyond. There's nothing in town, nothing, besides a big University. Sorta' like Madison! OK, Mad has a Capitol.
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Meaning, apparently, that you've been to those stores at your local mall. Had you been to town, you'd realize that Columbus "has a capitol."
 
Ditra said:
The stats would say a goalie stole the game, but I didn't see the game.
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UMD's goaltender was outstanding but our shot placement wasn't good, got to hit those top corners. I thought we for the most part outplayed Duluth and certainly dominated SOG but we had two defensive miscues and Duluth had two goals from them with the the winning one coming with 23 seconds left in the game. Jungaker went out injured which caused a disruption in our D. At the end of the game she walked back to the locker room with a slight limp so hopefully it's not bad but she might not suit up tomorrow.
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
UMD's goaltender was outstanding but our shot placement wasn't good, got to hit those top corners. I thought we for the most part outplayed Duluth and certainly dominated SOG but we had two defensive miscues and Duluth had two goals from them with the the winning one coming with 23 seconds left in the game. Jungaker went out injured which caused a disruption in our D. At the end of the game she walked back to the locker room with a slight limp so hopefully it's not bad but she might not suit up tomorrow.
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The guy calling the game on BTN-Plus said you lose Webster tomorrow, as well, to a field hockey match.
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
That's how I understood it as well. But to comply with Title IX
For every paid male athlete there must be a paid female athlete but as you mentioned not necessarily paid equal amounts.
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It's not a given that Title IX will even apply once they are paying the players. Up to now, the NCAA and its member institutions have denied that the athletes are employees in order to avoid the various legal aspects of that designation. Once they are paying them directly, though, that pretense is going to be very hard to maintain.

If they are legally employees, then the schools could also drop the pretense that varsity athletics is entirely an educational enterprise, and could admit that it is commercial. If it is commercial, then they might not be covered by Title IX, which only applies to educational programs. This will surely be litigated.

Of course, it's also possible that, if athletics is deemed a commercial enterprise, that donations to the athletic department would not be tax deductible. This, too, would surely be litigated.

In short, we are headed over a precipice, and no one knows what lies at the bottom of this ravine.
 
Still Eeyore said:
In short, we are headed over a precipice, and no one knows what lies at the bottom of this ravine.
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Very thoughtful post Eeyore. If student do become employees the universities would have to pay into their State's workman's comp system for them as well unless their legislatures give them an exemption which I'm sure Ohio State would lobby for. Also as employees would they be under contract? It's rubbed me the wrong way when football players refuse to play in their teams bowl games hurting their team. If they're under contract it might minimize that as they'd lose their pay and could even be forced to reimburse their school what they've already been paid.
 
Tough start for the Buckeyes this weekend to say the least. I am not going to repeat some of the "sky is falling" crap I heard after the game because this team is way too talented and way too well-coached for any fan to be pushing the panic button, and our coaches and girls don't need to be reading that stuff. Coach lamented after the game today that we needed to play better and in time, we will play better. We lost two one-goal games this weekend to a pretty good UMD team that played better than we did, at least in today's game that I was there to see. I missed yesterday's game because I thought this weekend would be a safe weekend to get a cabin with some friends in Hockey Hills, or excuse me, Hocking Hills (I was thinking about the girls yesterday). It has been a long time, if ever, that women's hockey has started the season this early. I have to admit, it warmed my heart to hear our Captain tell me, "We missed you yesterday." Anyway, this team will be fine. They made mistakes today, and the Bulldogs, to their credit, capitalized on the mistakes and won the game, completing the sweep. Jocelyn Amos opened the scoring to put the Buckeyes up 1-0. Not to be outdone, Minnesota-Duluth's Clara Van Wieren scored late in the opening frame to tie it at 1-1 heading into the first intermission. The Bulldogs got a PP goal in the second period to take a 2-1 lead. The score remained that way until late in the second period when the Bucks got two goals with 11 seconds to take a 3-2 lead into the final period. Duluth got two third period goals, both from Caitlin Kraemer to win this one 4-3. For the second game in a row, Ohio State outshot UMD, although it was a little closer in this one, 39-30. Hailey MacLeod got the start for Ohio State and stopped 26 of the 30 shots she faced in the loss. Eve Gascon got the start for UMD and stopped 36 of the 39 shots she faced to get the win. Ohio State will travel to Bemidji next weekend. UMD will return home to host Syracuse at Amsoil Arena.
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
That is correct. If the field hockey team makes the NCAA tournament this season which is very likely we won't have her fully back until later than we did last season.
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Seems like that is going to be the case this season as field hockey is off to an 8-0 start and looks pretty good. I can't see them missing out on the NCAA Tournament this season. Makenna Webster scored another goal today and if I am not mistaken, she has gotten a goal or a point in every game. She really is as good at field hockey as she is at ice hockey, quite an extraordinary athlete to excel in both sports at the division I level.
 
Still Eeyore said:
It's not a given that Title IX will even apply once they are paying the players. Up to now, the NCAA and its member institutions have denied that the athletes are employees in order to avoid the various legal aspects of that designation. Once they are paying them directly, though, that pretense is going to be very hard to maintain.

If they are legally employees, then the schools could also drop the pretense that varsity athletics is entirely an educational enterprise, and could admit that it is commercial. If it is commercial, then they might not be covered by Title IX, which only applies to educational programs. This will surely be litigated.

Of course, it's also possible that, if athletics is deemed a commercial enterprise, that donations to the athletic department would not be tax deductible. This, too, would surely be litigated.

In short, we are headed over a precipice, and no one knows what lies at the bottom of this ravine.
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Imagine if Athletic programs incorporated and issued publicly traded stock.
 
robertearle said:
Contracts can be verbal; they're just harder to prove, if they are.
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Ohio State broke a very costly contract years ago when they fired basketball coach Jim O'Brian without cause violating his contract. He sued for the money owed him and won. Ohio State appealed it all the way to the state Supreme Court and lost. They had to pay him millions, interest on those millions and attorney fees and OSU belligerently denied any wrongdoing on their part. The point is contracts aren't ambiguous documents with wiggle room, their purpose is to have terms and conditions set in stone. No rational judge would rule in favor of the contract breaker, and I'm specifically referring to written contracts, not verbal ones.
 
Looks like the Beavers scored twice against the Ohio State, including a short handed goal. This has to be unexpected. Will the Beavers become the pesky Beavers of the past again?
 
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