Each University's athletic department will decide. The top sports get paid the others become club style non paid.
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Each University's athletic department will decide. The top sports get paid the others become club style non paid.
robertearle
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Yes, and I wish the article had gone into greater detail regarding those choices being made at Ohio State. Because if he's quoting "150 fewer", some of those decisions have already been made.
Hockeybuckeye
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But the club style sports will still have scholarships?
Hockeybuckeye
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I'm sure we'll get those details in due time. The article did referenc the rapid change happening which may mean there might not be final decisions made yet on new policy but I'm only speculating.
While the ability might be there it's not guaranteed that the money will go to women's hockey. Seems to me the new frontier is geared toward those sports that have a positive revenue stream. Sports that are a drag on overall cashflow will be the ones that get relegated to "club" status. To be fair the article doesn't give much information on the future impacts of the lawsuit other than there will be changes.
Hockeybuckeye
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Other than football I can't say for certain if any other sport is in the black on revenue vs cost at Ohio State with possibly basketball.
Given the fact that women's hockey at Ohio State is now one of their most successful and winningest sports thanks to our coach I'm fairly certain they won't be one of the ones operating like s club.
Hockeybuckeye
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Here's a link to another article about the coming changes, it's not much different from the earlier one.
https://www.si.com/college/ohiostat...s-major-cost-cutting-plans-for-olympic-sports
https://www.si.com/college/ohiostat...s-major-cost-cutting-plans-for-olympic-sports
Where did you see that in writing?
I think that in the future sports that are on national tv and generate large fees from ticket sales are the ones that will gain and the other sports lose out. It's not about NCAA success any more it's all about money.
I didn't
robertearle
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Re-reading a couple articles from when the settlement agreement was made to refresh my memory, two things:
- Universities will have a "cap" on the amount of money they will be allowed to distribute in "pay" to their athletes; the cap will be something a little over $20 million in 2025-26. So unless Ohio State is the only school that can afford that $20 million amount - and they're not - the idea that "OSU womens hockey will have the ability to offer more $$$ than all the other D1 womens hockey programs" seems a little 'optimistic', shall we say?
- Schools will still have to comply with Title IX, but that does not necessarily mean the literal "one-to-one" that "If 100 men get paid then 100 women must be pad" would imply. Title IX has never worked that way, has never required "one-to-one".
robertearle
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It's not what I "think", it's what the settlement agreement says.
I understand where you're coming from. The fact of the matter is we're dealing with 100 other factors that apply. The biggest takeaway from the Columbus article was the statement of every second the situation is constantly changing...that being said , today is now different than yesterday. Do you think OSU who makes more money than any other university will allow its brand to be on the same level of WI who does not make money... that would be naive. Timing is everything for the OSU womens hockey program. If this was 8 years ago, OSU WH would probably be one of those teams becoming club status. Muzerall rewrote the script. Now OSU WH is about to go to a whole new level. Equality does not exist.
robertearle
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The university - no matter how much money it "makes" - will be LIMITED to how much it can pay its athletes. That is part of the settlement agreement. That is not "changing day by day".
If you want to make the argument that OSU WH players have a chance at making more NIL money than players at Wisconsin or Minnesota, go ahead and make that argument. I doubt it's the case, but at least it's arguable.
But the cap on direct payments to athletes is a CAP ... on direct payments ... to athletes.
Maybe OSU should take some of that great amount of money it is making and build your team a damn rink! Last word here was that is seriously in doubt at this point.
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According to the "Equity in Athletics" website, during the 2022-23 year, Ohio State had a total of 1133 varsity athletes; 582 men and 551 women. Wisconsin had 795 varsity athletes; 427 men and 368 women.
I would hope that it is obvious that spreading $22 million over 1133 athletes means less per athlete than across 795 athletes.
Of course, that won't be what actually happens. And it points to what they were saying with regard to some sports becoming glorified club sports (or being eliminated altogether).
But it also points to why it sure seems unlikely that Ohio State women hockey players are going to get a bigger share of the $22 million than Wisconsin women will. If anything, it might be the other way around.
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
There's nothing worse than feeling betrayed. It's only a matter of time before the PWHL comes a calling. She's smart and ambitious. Being betrayed by 2 AD's and having MN and WI continuously throwing in recruit's faces the great facilities they and that she doesn't have is something that will be hard for her to overlook.
Oh, it doesn't hurt recruiting. Lol, for 8 years, coaches have been taking that shot at OSU, and it hasn't worked. MN and WI should focus on recruiting and trying to win rather than talking about the team that kicks their a## on a regular basis rather than a rink.
robertearle
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The settlement agreement is a PUBLIC document! There is NO question about what it says!
(And what kind of teacher tells someone to stop reading?!? Good Lord, man!)