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Kepler said:
People don't want to hear that their interests are "special interests," that's true. But that wasn't what drove the revulsion to the 47% comment. That was Mittens saying, "Are there no workhouses?!" That's not policy, it's just his complete insulation inside his Fortress of Privilege.
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The 47 percent is neither here nor there. The public's revulsion for hearing the truth about their entitlement mentality has been growing for many years and has nothing to do specifically with Romney. You tell people how much you will cut their benefits and raise their taxes to balance the budget, and you get crushed at the ballot box. People don't want to hear it. Which is why it's avoided like the plague by most everybody (which is one reason I like Ryan, because he doesn't totally duck the discussion).
 
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Rover said:
That's not a lot to ask after issues such as health care are already decided.
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Our healthcare system is now in good shape, thanks to Obamacare? Dare I say...."Mission Accomplished?" I guarantee we'll be battling health care expenditures for a lot longer past today's date than the span of time between Bush's statement and whenever we finally get out of Afghanistan.

Bob Gray said:
True. The populace loves simple answers to difficult problems, even if the simple answers don't actually work.
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"For every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, clear - and wrong." H.L. Menken
 
LynahFan said:
Our healthcare system is now in good shape, thanks to Obamacare? Dare I say...."Mission Accomplished?" I guarantee we'll be battling health care expenditures for a lot longer past today's date than the span of time between Bush's statement and whenever we finally get out of Afghanistan.

"For every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, clear - and wrong." H.L. Menken
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I believe Bush's statment related to Iraq, not Afghanistan. Beyond that though, I don't think health care is where it needs to be. I think the legislative wrangling over healthcare and nonsensical "repeal and replace....and we'll get back to you on the replace part" ends Nov 6th. For both Dodd-Frank and ACA, implementation instead of playing defense will be the next stage post election, of which obstructionist Republicans will have little influence to block.

So getting back to the point, what needs to be done legislatively? Definately immigration, and if the GOP gets smoked 2-1 with Hispanics yet again the Karl Rove's of the world are going to start throwing their weight around to get a deal done and pronto. Not out of any altruism on his part but because he's a savvy politico who's trying to avoid electoral doom for his party.

Energy independence is somewhat trickier but over the next four years ought to be issue #1. Jobs, tax revenue, less need for overseas interventions, lower fossil fuel usage...lots to like on both sides of the aisle.
 
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LynahFan said:
Our healthcare system is now in good shape, thanks to Obamacare?
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Errrrr..............no. Might have been if the GOP hadn't gotten in the way. But, currently the way its set up its a mess. So, status quo, but more people are insured, kids can be insured till 26, and they can't boot you for pre-existing. So, there were some wins.
 
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Hubris?

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ScoobyDoo said:
Errrrr..............no. Might have been if the GOP hadn't gotten in the way. But, currently the way its set up its a mess. So, status quo, but more people are insured, kids can be insured till 26, and they can't boot you for pre-existing. So, there were some wins.
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Drat those Republicans, always "getting in the way." D*mn two party system. What we need is a one party system. Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
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Foxton said:
Is there anything... anything that Obama could do, that wouldn't cause conservative poutrage?
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Is there anything, anything that Obama would do (like claiming for days a murderous terrorist attack on a consulate was "spontanous" despite ample evidence to the contrary) that you wouldn't defend?
 
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Bob Gray said:
The 47 percent is neither here nor there.
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Too many folks believe in that tagline without giving it intelligent thought, and they fail to recognize what it represents nor why they shouldn't be offended by a great percentage of that group. In addition to freeloaders it's made up of seniors, college students, members of the military and even a number of employed that are still paying state taxes, sales taxes and in some cases property taxes. I'm not about to wish I could trade places with a member of that group just because they're not paying the feds.
 
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unofan said:
So are you a regular reader of the Jewish World Review, or did you just do a Google search for something to fit your world view? I'm honestly curious.
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Probably republished from townhall.com. Sowell is a regular contributor
 
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unofan said:
So are you a regular reader of the Jewish World Review, or did you just do a Google search for something to fit your world view? I'm honestly curious.
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A regular reader of Thomas Sowell. His website happens to link to JWR for his columns, which may very well pick them up from Townhall.
 
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walrus said:
Yeah
Go back to Chicago
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Which would leave Biden in charge resulting in a whole lot of crying about how he just wanted to destroy 'Merica!

I found the perfect representation for the crying our conservative posters must do when another one of their talking points is examined.

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Canada, here I come!

But what, pray tell, would you know about "men's rights"? :p
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Funny little movement on youtube that's currently being picked apart for it's absurdity. Sort of a reverse radical feminism 'movement'. Sort of related in that it's a victim mentality, and no one plays the victim better than republicans.
 
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Foxton said:
Funny little movement on youtube that's currently being picked apart for it's absurdity. Sort of a reverse radical feminism 'movement'. Sort of related in that it's a victim mentality, and no one plays the victim better than republicans.
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The "men's rights" movement started out as a bunch of deadbeat dads trying to weasel out of paying for child support by challenging the legal system -- ("who are they to tell me my rights and responsibilities with my kids and anyway I just cuff my wife around a little when she lips off like daddy used to with mom it's in the Bible blah blah blah").

Has it become anything larger / dumber / more asinine than that?
 
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Kepler said:
The "men's rights" movement started out as a bunch of deadbeat dads trying to weasel out of paying for child support by challenging the legal system -- ("who are they to tell me my rights and responsibilities with my kids and anyway I just cuff my wife around a little when she lips off like daddy used to with mom it's in the Bible blah blah blah").

Has it become anything larger / dumber / more asinine than that?
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Speaking of asinine, your post is right up there. Like there hasn't ever been a father screwed to the wall by a divorcing spouse with phony claims of sexual abuse of the children. Or who screws with her ex over visitation for no other reason than she can get away with it, and she's a vengeful b*tch. You just know, don't you, that all these guys are "deadbeats" who are trying to "weasel" out of their obligations who "cuffed around" their ex-wives and cited the bible as their authority for doing so? Your prejudice is finely tuned, isn't it? Some of the men in this movement doubtless are pretty much as you describe (although the reflexive, boring anti-religious snarl is really unnecessary). But some aren't. And you don't give a sh*t, do you? Paraphrasing Rahm: never miss an opportunity to be pompous and condescending.
 
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Kepler said:
The "men's rights" movement started out as a bunch of deadbeat dads trying to weasel out of paying for child support by challenging the legal system -- ("who are they to tell me my rights and responsibilities with my kids and anyway I just cuff my wife around a little when she lips off like daddy used to with mom it's in the Bible blah blah blah").

Has it become anything larger / dumber / more asinine than that?
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More whiny and anonymous. Pio would fit right in.
 
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