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Kepler said:
The chart and the 47% can't be apples to apples. Otherwise half the states (roughly) would be over 47%.

The chart says "filers." Maybe that's the difference.
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They certainly aren't. Not a single one of those numbers is 47% or higher. The highest (Mississippi) is 45%. Like I said though, it's a 2012 number that only 52% of the tax-eligible populace pays taxes, while you are giving us 2008 data, which is before any of these Obama policies even started to take place.
 
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Kepler said:
The October surprise is letting Romney speak. :)

This is what happens when a party's discourse is conducted completely within its own bubble among a small set of true believers. When they come out of their basement and try to mimic human behavior, they come across as at best insincere and more likely completely bonkers.
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It's pretty much the same thing that happened with Rick Perry.
 
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The 47% the Repubs are so fond of is a 2009 # when a bunch of extra tax breaks from the stimulus took effect for one, two years tops on top of the tanked economy. The numbers both before and after are likely much lower.
 
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bronconick said:
The 47% the Repubs are so fond of is a 2009 # when a bunch of extra tax breaks from the stimulus took effect for one, two years tops on top of the tanked economy. The numbers both before and after are likely much lower.
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According to both Slate and NPR, it's still between 46 and 48 percent, however you slice it. Considering "Federal Income Tax" only, of course.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Now I can see why you guys consider everyone who is anti-Obama to be GOP, because all you see is "anti-Obama". I'm not going to deny that there are staunch anti-Obama people out there; I know a few. This is why I have been professing to have a positive reason to vote for someone. I had a positive reason in 2004 to vote for GWB, and I'm not going to deny it. Sure I went straight down the conservative row for 2008, but sadly I was under the impression that I had to go anti-Obama. I have regretted that vote ever since, because it wasn't who I really wanted, but rather the lessor of two evils. I know I've made it fairly clear that not only would I not wish to vote for Obama, but I wouldn't wish to vote for Romney, either. I am going to make a positive choice in Gary Johnson, as his candidacy is about restoring hard work, and the associated freedoms that result from it. I also intend to put my money where my mouth is, and I'm sure that's something you wouldn't expect of me.
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This is one of my favorite posts ever in a political thread on USCHO. (Not because of the truth value of it, or because of any detail in it. But simply because I think people should always vote for who they like most, not who they dislike least.)
 
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geezer said:
According to both Slate and NPR, it's still between 46 and 48 percent, however you slice it. Considering "Federal Income Tax" only, of course.
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Of course, the implication in that stat is that they're all 30-year-old welfare queens who are addicted to meth on the taxpayer dime. A huge chunk of that 47 percent are college kids and retirees.
 
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unofan said:
Of course, the implication in that stat is that they're all 30-year-old welfare queens who are addicted to meth on the taxpayer dime. A huge chunk of that 47 percent are college kids and retirees.
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They're pretty much all either the working poor or elderly retirees. And they're mostly white. They're about half rural. The GOP has worked very hard to spread the perception that they're all able-bodied urban non-whites because that yanks the crank of their base.

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Q. When is a Right Direction / Wrong Direction of -16% good news for the incumbent?

A. When the Right Direction / Wrong Direction four years before was -65%.
 
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Kepler said:
Q. When is a Right Direction / Wrong Direction of -16% good news for the incumbent?

A. When the Right Direction / Wrong Direction four years before was -65%.
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You are kidding yourself if you think that number can be rationalized away like that.
 
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Kepler said:
Q. When is a Right Direction / Wrong Direction of -16% good news for the incumbent?

A. When the Right Direction / Wrong Direction four years before was -65%.
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Yet somehow Gallup only had Obama up by one in a poll I saw this morning. What a President that Obama is
 
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joecct said:
Gotta love Chicago politics....http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/chick-fil-funding-anti-gay-groups-175154249.html
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Like George Will says, Chicago politics, like Chicago baseball, isn't for the squeamish.

The people who will truly benefit here are not the gay activists, who potentialy might have been microscopically offended by whatever the Chick-fil-a CEO said or thought, but the people who will build, equip and find jobs in the restaurant, during slow economic times.

Some will find the bullying and coercing of an honest business, to make it divest itself of "innappropriate" thoughts, a good thing. Me? I'm reminded of Benghazi.
 
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Looks like repealing DADT really did have an effect...

 
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